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I think the hunters and brutes are very much alike, both don't use energy shields and both have similar weapons including a melee one. Though apperently a brute can " tear apart any opponent-even a might hunter"...

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Ok well I might be new here and i havent exactly read every post, so if im repeating what some one esle has already said, sorry.
Here how i see this whole covie hierachy thing, now to get my point across im going to use a bit of history, WWII to be exact. Now i hate Hitler as much as the next guy and hope he's pianfully burning in hell as we speak, but he best fits what im about to do. Ok now Hitler used propagand (spelling?) and infulence to controle the Natiz's fear and controle turned them in to a pretty formitalbe force really, those who didnt believe him still went along with him because of fear and what not. Now your wondering why im using this as an example, well look at the Covies, the prophets as we know are weak yes but who's to say they arnt great at persuasion. If you remember the second Halo book, The Flod in the end when the humands get on the Trueth and Reconsiliation they find the Prophet but dont kill him, even if he was the leader of the covies there i still would have shot him (personally). Now their also smart, and telepathy could be a reason for such control over the covies mind tricks, make them believe what the Prophets are saying is true. It could explain how a weak reace like the prophets could have convinced a warrior and proud race like the Elite's to first Join them.

But my big question is still how do the Prophets know where these forrunner places are? Well thats where my second theory comes in. So we all know theres a new race that hasent been revieled yet. So what are they? We also know we're going to the Covies home world, they havent said it yet (i dont think) but if you look at the documentary thing they kinda hint it, so here i go. the new race is could really fit one of 2 places, one, the Brutes are takeing over the Elites spot and since they have never suggested any thing hire other than Pophests the new Guys would likely be some where between the hunters and Jackles. Or the big one number 2, the nEw guys are Above the prophets, they are like some kind of ancient ansestors of the forrunners, think of it like this they are Hitler the prophest are like the super high Generals and advisors and the other races filter down into generals and other possitions. If you've read the first book you know that the covie's were at Halo before the humans got there, they knew Halo was there, in the Last one First Strike they knew that Reach had some Key thing that could distort time as space, (The hole slip steam thing) so where are they getting this information? Thats just my Opinion at least.

And now all this about a war with in the covie's, im not sayin its not possible but just unlikely. If im right about the Pophets haveing some kind of ablility to control allt he races in the covie's then its not going to happen, but there is mention that the Elites are geting fet up with allt he crap the Prophets are making them do so its not like it couldnt happen, Covies have shot and killed each other before, In the first book a hunter steps on a jackle and kills him, in the second a hunter is shot in the back by a grunt by accedent when the grunt panics, and in the third one a hunter fires his weapon at the spartens against orders and is shot by every other covie in the room, both hunters die along with several others. I do think that who ever said that Hunters were the last race to goin the covie's are right they seem to be the least loyal. Also if you read the last Book it says that the brutes are stonger than the hunters, STRONGER! Thats sick, if u dont hit that one spot hunters are practically walking tanks! Really if one race rebeled say the Elites they wouldnt gain any ground only loose, there is a lot of other races againt then and like i said fra can control a lot. Heres my other idea about that as well, If you dont join the army when your called to you can go to jail or you and your familly killed epending where u are, what if the covie's use some kind of tacticl like this, u do only see males on the battle field,(least i think?) Maybe the home world are being held hostage to make sure the races of the covie's stay in check one race goes againt then and BOOM bye bye planet? it would be some pretty powerfull insentive to folow orders if you ask me, or maybe they just would have any where aelse to go or do since they planet has been glassed already.

Any ways thats my 2 cents so ya,hope you guys like it.

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One thing that we don't know is how many Prophets there are. According to the books Master Chief's original assignment (before Halo was discovered) was to Capture/Kill a Prophet, which might lead you to belive that there is only one Prophet, right? Well, Bungie ran a article on this and said that at first the Covenant started out with two races, the Elites, and the Prophets. If the Prophets are a race, not a individual, (I wonder if the Humans knew that at the time), I wonder if the UNSC would have each SPARTAN try to capture a Prophet. Who knows? Hopefully we'll find out in Halo 2. If it isn't explained, either I will be mad a Bungie for not completing, or hope that they are planning Halo 3 to finish the Forerunner Theory thing.

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That would be an awesome mission in Halo 2. sneak into a covenant base or something with a squad of marines and capture/kill a high-ranking prophet, then have a really sweet getaway cutscene.

  • 07.12.2004 3:12 PM PDT

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Well,first of all,there are some Highly ranked Elites that are at a higher position than most Prophets,how do the prophets know of such artifacts?well here is why...They are the religious and political leaders of the Covenant.
**Prophets actually originated on a world that was once home to a Forerunner colony**. This comes from several and is known and respected by all the higher Covenant castes. **This is the reason that the Covenant revere all Forerunner artifacts, and it is for this reason that the Covenant have such advanced technology, because they have been using technological remnants of the Forerunners**.See,how the prophets obtain these artifacts is by using ground forces,Elites/hunters/brutes/jackals and grunts.Now if you noticed ,and tookt eh tiem to study the Brute's weapon...it has some sort of blade on the bottom probably used as a much more powerful melee than just a simple smack with any other(except the Plasma Sword). And one big AND,the Covenant Empire was started by the Prophets,Engineers,and Elites,(Although the Prophets are the founders.)

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The mission for the Spartans was to kidnap a Prophet so the humans could negotiate a truce with the Covenant, just so you know

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Just so you know there are more than one prophet and covenant are not a weak race,they wouldn't mind losing a prophet when they have more than just one,unless it was a very high ranked one.

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It's what they said in the book

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I know they said that on the book,but they didn't know if the covenant consisted of only one prophet,now WE know that that statement is not true,there are many prophets.

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no dude, brutes are strong; the brute who was killed in 3 shots also happened to be standing next to a car that exploded on him. I really dont think any covanent will turn. If that were the case, i would be seriously disappointed. Bungie has created an epic story. In an epic story, the hero doesnt gain victory becuase his enemies fight themselves. Think of any epic you know, the Iliad, David and Goliath; things like that. The hero, or Master Cheif will defeat the Convanent becasue he is better than them not because he isnt; if it takes the Covies splitting to win that would mean we are inferior to the Covanent alliance. No, the Covanent will not split. Maybe the MC destroys one of the races thus disturbing the delicate balance of the alliance and tilting the favor to us. Then again; in the teaser trailer there is a Covie armada above earth ready to glass the planet whenever they want. Space victory isnt possible for Earth. The second that MC destroys some sort of homeworld of the Covanent(if he does) the giant armada will destroy earth out of spite wouldnt they? And why would a Covanent race start a revolution in the middle of a hugely successful campain to destroy mankind? It would be like the Canadians allying with Germany in WW2 just as the allies are rolling to Berlin; just not a smart move. The humans will throw off thier oppressers, the opressers won't throw themselves off.

The only theory i can come up with is that the MC destroys one of the races somehow; and destabilizes the alliance. Unless ...., unless we see a third power. Like another army who sympathizes with the humans. Its not out of the question; the galaxy is huge, i dont believe that it says anywhere that the humans and Covies have explored the whole galaxy. Perhaps just as we werent expecting to get invaded by the Covies, the Covies arent expecting to get invaded by another species. Even if im right, i hope im not cause i want to be surprised haha. Let me know what u think.

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Well,first of all,u rock!,but..there are some minors..soemthing i don't understand is.WHY THE -blam!- don't the covenant destroy earth already?they can easily do that..now dude,picture this...Humans are what?they are a single race
what are the covenant?1..2..3.4.5.6.7 races,altogether are more than twice as strong and smart as the humans,7 races combined against a single race (humans),humans don't stand a chance at all,now about the galaxy stuff,this may help you..a bit..*****The Covenant is a technologically advanced collective of cooperating alien races, which controls a large portion of the Orion arm of the Milky Way galaxy(I hope you know that thats our galaxy toolol). Naturally this means that in relative terms, the Human race is close to their turf. And as humans began to explore space, it was only a matter of time before their paths crossed.********

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Well, its not totally out of the question, no, but some how the idea of an other Race other than the Covie's coming in to the picture just doesnt seem likely. Plus something tells me if that happened things wouild get really complicated really fast. And i do agree with the fact that it would be kinda dumb if the Covie's stared to fight amongest them selves, but to be honest who really knows exect the people over at Bungie. I just can't quiet figure out where this new race is going to fit in, i mean really if you look at the Covie's ranks there isnt really to many options is there? Prophets run the show, Elites are the brains of the military, Brutes are like royal guards and super troops, lol, hunters are big ass walking tanks, and then you'v got your grunts and Jackles both of witch are mostly expendable numbers, o and the engineers there the tech nerds of the Covie's (no offence to any one here) so really where i ask WHERE.

Oh and as for the Brutes little blade thing on their gun im guessing thats there for a lot more powerfull melee attack, and for looks, lol. And really in the demo, yes the brute when down easy but im guessing Bungie played around with the AI a bit i mean really did any of the other Covie's look all that deadly in combat? I'm just sayin is all.

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The difficulty musta been in the new halo 2 mode.ULTRAF'UCKINGEASY:)..and i mean guys,with all the technology the covenants have acquired from the forerunners...they shouldn't even be sweating i mean,they've got this war on the bag,but of course,we're the protagonists so ..uuhh..no matter how badass the odds seem,humans will overcome them SOMEHOW,i hope bungie doens't disappoint us by making some very "not much sense at all story",wich is the opposite of what's been going on,cuz this halo story has been one of the best games stories i've ever discussed,actually IT IS THE BEST.

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Well i think thats agreed by pretty much every one on this site, and there was definatly something up with the AI in the demo. But technology isnt always the best way to win a battle, strategy is : ) Besides look at the odds you go up against in the game and you can still come out an top, im not sayin that the humans have a hole lot of a chance against the Old Covie's but its not like there running dark either.

My bets as to why the COvies wont roast earth is cause Earth has some Forrunner facility in it, i mean Reach did and no boby knew, and it was right under the militaries noise all along, who's to say that's not why their not glassing the planet right off the bat. But i totally agree the whole war started the second we got to close to the Covie's territory, *Our destruction is the will of the gods and the Covie's are their instrument*. lol

o and one more little thing who's to say that the forrunners werent the reason we ened up being what we are, maybe they just genetially engineared us or something than thats why the Covie's hate our guts soo much, maybe Bungies going to make us think, lol

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ok. ok. ok. you got some good points guys BUT!!!!
Well for 1:the Covanent arnt going to brake up its just speculation plus would you brake off your allies when your winning a war i dont think so mister
2:yes the humans are going to win we are humans plus we got Sgt Avery Johnson and the Master Chief on our side i mean geez Sgt.Johnson hes crazy assed marine
3:we got the ODST core and other -blam!- like that
4:yes theres spose to be a new race but im pretty sure its the brutes dude
and about the hole galixy thing yes the covies got most of our galixie but theres the hole universe out there to man and it would be pretty -blam!- cool if another race came and kicked the covies asses with the humans
im not trying to ba and ass here but you guys are getting to into this -blam!- its just a game for crist sakes i mean ya i was arguing alot to but if you realy want to know whats going on just wait till HALO2 comes out

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Ok, I'm too lazy to read all this stuff, which sounds very interesting if I get the time, but I read every other post sorta, and I want to comment about the Brutes and the Hunters, They both have an obvious purpose.

Brutes:
1. Combat, like elites
2. Guarding Sacred Temples, (read First Strike)

Hunters:
1. Heavy Support, in combat
2. Guarding entrances to installations (The Silent Cartographer? How many huntrers? 6? or 8? And Assault on The Control Room, How many hunters? 10?) All the hunters are at entrances to special places they want heavy security at.

Sorry if this has b33n said before, just clearing up any thought people are still having about it.

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K my opion on the hole covenant civil war thing( which may just be wishful thinking cause quite frankly i like earth and want it to stay humanized). Ight I think one of the major clues from the was the endy part when the prophet was talking to the brute dude an told the elites to leave. See, the way i see it the brutes an elites are very much alike. Both basiclly cunning, strong, and armored or shielded. kinda sound like rivals ey. Cept for one major difference.Elites care about themselves period. Brutes work towards the good o the prophet leaders. And are loyal (keyword). The Prophets aren't stupid. The elites are kinda resent the prophets and are unloyal. So if u were a Prohphet what would you do? Replace them. Like its been said the covenant caste sytem would fall apart if there was a break in group. for instance the elites leaving. But the brutes which basically sharethe same traits as elites could plug up the gap. Bingo, rebelious elite problem solved, military divisions still going strong. That is the way I see a posible covenant civil war play out. If there is one.


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1 Elites could probably take out 10 Brutes, because Brutes take like 3 shots as seen in the trailer, they have no shields. .


Maybe because of the advantage of elite's shields an elite could defeat 1 brute in a firefight but put an elite without a shield and a brute in hand to hand combat and the elite would start getting alot more bone joints than he should have. if you read the books you would know that the brute would proably laugh at a blue elites face and than tear him to pieces, and probably eat him too.

anyways, at the end of first strike the great prophet of truth says to a brute called tartarus (after telling the 300 battle hardened protector elites to leave his room) this:

"soon the great journey shall begin, and let nothing in this universe impede our progress"

they are planning something big, very big and they are planning it behind elite's backs.

the prophet's really don't care about the elite's as the this great prophet of truth tells the brute to execute all the failures who survived the battle with master chief. i'm not talking about halo, it's some other place mc and mates destroy in the book.

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1 Elites could probably take out 10 Brutes, because Brutes take like 3 shots as seen in the trailer, they have no shields. .


Maybe because of the advantage of elite's shields an elite could defeat 1 brute in a firefight but put an elite without a shield and a brute in hand to hand combat and the elite would start getting alot more bone joints than he should have. if you read the books you would know that the brute would proably laugh at a blue elites face and than tear him to pieces, and probably eat him too.

anyways, at the end of first strike the great prophet of truth says to a brute called tartarus (after telling the 300 battle hardened protector elites to leave his room) this:

"soon the great journey shall begin, and let nothing in this universe impede our progress"

they are planning something big, very big and they are planning it behind elite's backs.

the prophet's really don't care about the elite's as the this great prophet of truth tells the brute to execute all the failures who survived the battle with master chief. i'm not talking about halo, it's some other place mc and mates destroy in the book.

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who said that in new mombassa the elites were going to try and defeat MC, after all how on earth is MC goning to beat 7 elites. I've just proved that it is still possible for a human/elite allie but i still don't like the idea. Maybe it would be somwhat like you just said with the brutes replacing the elites and the elites joining the humans. But I think that what I just said would happen could happen only the elites don't join the humans.

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Well dude,elites and spartans together would make the war too easy for the humans,remember the elites are the backbone of the covenant empire.And dmnait why am i so stupid that i forgot to mention,the main reason why the covenants haven't destroyed earth yet it's becuz they believe there is forerunner artifacts located deep inside earth.

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I dunno where he heard this but one of my friends says theres gonna be another ring. I dunno how to believe him but it kinda makes sense i mean why would they call it halo if there wasn't gonna be a halo .

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i have not read the books so dont call me stupid if i seem to be stupid. i have also not read every single post.

1.i was just wondering if any of you have forgotton about the flood and that they could be in halo 2.



2. where the egineers in halo1? becuase i didnt notice them if they were.

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Posted by: Scipio
I know this was in a previous thread I have made, but I think it's relevant to this thread's discussion.
Here are my ideas on why the Covenant are attacking humans and what the Prophets aren't telling the elites.

In light of Frankie's article about the covenant and the posts afterwards, I have been struck with an idea.
Prophet ceremony and purpose is not generally known to the Covenant population, most of whom simply trust in their wisdom to further the goals and territory of the Covenant.

So the nature of Prophets is more or less unknown to the other Covenant castes. I believe it also said in one of the books that the Prophets live on a world where the Forerunner had lived before they abandoned it for unknown reasons. Now here is where I make a few assumptions. Lets say, for the sake of argument, that humans are or are at least related to the Forerunner. The Prophets obviously know a lot about the forerunner and are in control of the Covenant because of their understanding of and the mysticism of the long-departed Forerunner. Now, the Covenant run into a human ship and blow it up, why? The Covenant have been studying humanity (and vice versa) for a little while before contact was made according to FS. If the Prophets realized that humans are or atleast are the only/closest relatives of the Forerunner, then they'd a pretty good reason for eliminating them.

First of all, if all Covenant castes knew that the humans, with their inferior technology and mannerisms were direct decendants or were forerunners, then their faith in these 'godlike' beings would be shaken to the breaking point. The millenia of semi-worship of Forerunner and pursuit of their level of greatness would seem to be completely wasted if they all ended up as some lowly imperial race with sub-par technology. Plus, if the humans are Forerunner and are the result of some kind of self-induced apocalypse, then trying to attain their level of greatness through the Prophets guidance would be folly because it would only lead to their own destruction. The Prophets are ultimately dependent upon the other races to keep themselved defended, and without those races loyalty, they are vulnerable to the same kind of extinction they pose to humans.

Now, the Prophets realize this before any of the other Covenant (or they assassinate anyone else who knew the truth. Remember in Halo:The Flood when Zammamme goes through all the security checks because of recent assassinations?) and the concequences of the rest of the Covenant knowing the truth. They decide to protect their position as the head of the Covenant and maintain the enigmatic nature of their Forerunner idols by destroying any and all evidence that they may be these newfound humans. That would explain why they go to such great lengths to destroy every single human and their buidings on every single planet they inhabit while maintaining their phoney motive of pursuing forerunner relics and killing the infidels who have set up camp on top of them.

Frankie's Covenant info hints that there will be Civil War among the Covenant races (the evidence is so great it screams at us). The elites aren't keen on the idea of protecting and listening to the Prophets in the first place because they'd much rather just kill than wait for a purpose, so how loyal would they be when they realized that Prophet dogma and religion was all a lie?


I think Scipio's pretty much on the ball with the situation within the Covenant heirarchy, especially with regards to the Prophets. I disagree with the hypothesis that the Brutes are mercenaries, primarily based upon the fact that in First Strike they guard the temple aboard the Unyielding Heiro-thing. It is obvious from the last chapter of the book that the Elites clearly look down upon the Brutes as being overly-primitive, and as the most religiously idealistic of the Covenant races as well as the second-highest ranking I doubt they would stand for their guarding of religious sites if they weren't even a true part of the Covenant. I'm not entirely sure what niche they fulfill in the Covenant, but it definitely seems as though they are not mercenaries.

Another thing that I would like to bring up is the Human-Forerunner relationship. I think that, as Scipio states, the humans are at least the genetic offshoot of the Forerunners, if not the Forerunners themselves, and only the prophets realize it, and wish to eradicate the humans so as to prevent religious turmoil as well as maintain their place at the top of the hierarchy. I can support this fact with multiple quotes muttered and actions from 343 Guilty Spark throughout the course of Halo. Before I continue I would like to give credit to Wesker's FAQ on GameFAQs.com for saving me the effort of recording these quotes myself.

Quote #1-"The installation was specifically built to study and contain the
Flood. Their survival as a race was dependant upon it. I am grateful to see
that some of them survived to reproduce."

Quote #2-"The Flood are already hard at work preparing your vessel. It's
parasitic nature belies the Flood's intelligence."

Quote #3-"Puzzling. You brought such ineffective weapons to combat the Flood
despite the containment protocols."

Quote #4-"I would conjecture that the other species currently on the
installation is responsible for releasing the Flood. They seem most persistent
in their attempts to access restricted areas."

Quote #5-"More or less. Technically this installation's pulse has a maximum
effective radius of twenty five thousand light years, but once the others
follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or any least any life
with sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood...But you already knew that, I
mean, how couldn't you? We have followed our outbreak containment procedure to the letter.
You were with me each step of the way as we managed this crisis."

Quote #6-"Why would you hesitate to do what you have already done?"

Quote #7-"Last time you asked me if it were my choice would I do it. Having had
considerable to time to ponder your query my answer has not changed. There is
no choice. We must activate the ring."

Quote #8-"You can't imagine how exciting this is to have a record of all our
lost time. Human history is it? Fascinating.

Ok thats a lot but ill explain it all. The first thing I want to address is the fact that the Monitor is insane. It is mentioned in the books that Human smart AI's only have a lifespan of about 7 years. Even though Forerunner technology is far superior, it makes sense that after 100,000 and some odd years that it would develop some quirks. Quote 1 indicate that something on Halo is descended from the Forerunners. Though it doesnt necessarily mean the Humans, it narrows it down. Also, in the book the MC comes upon a fallen soldier in the library who the Monitor refers to as the previous Reclaimer. Though not impossible to have occured, it makes sense that the Monitor would seek out Forerunners or their decendants to carry out containment procedures, which the Monitor is clearly bent on carrying out to the letter. Quote 2 must to the Truth and Reconciliation, and the Pillar of Autumn is in no shape to fly. It is, however, a Covenant ship, and the Monitor erroneously refers to it as belonging to the MC. This makes sense because the Monitor would naturally assume that a Forerunner would arrive on a Forerunner designed ship and since the Covenant designs are base upon Forerunner technology the Monitor simply assumed it was the MC's.Quote 3 is just one of many that shows the Monitor assuming the MC knows whats up, as it would be logical to assume that the MC knew his own (Forerunner) history. Quote 4 refers to the Covies. Though not specifically named, the behavior described matched that of the Covenant, who had searched the ring-world extensively for "relics" and also makes sense because in the level 343 Guilty Spark Keyes' patrol encounters dead Covenant left and right, evidence that the Flood had been realeased prior to the Human patrol's arrival. Combined with quote 1 it narrows down potential Forerunner species to just the Humans, as reference the Covenant as "the others" clearly shows that the Monitor has no prior knowledge of their existence. Quotes 5-7 all point to the fact that the MC should know whats going on and allude to the fact that he should know his own history. Also, it references the fact that the ethics of Halo had been discussed prior to its original firing, and that the MC should be clued in on the fact that it had been determined that it was the only correct course of action. Lastly, quote 8 refers to Human history and the way the Monitor discusses it it doesnt sould like it is talking about some other species' history but rather the records of what had transpired within his own civilization during his time in isolation.

Two more things that support a Human-Forerunner link. One is that fact that the Monitor and the MC can talk freely. All language translation on the planet requires some sort of link between the two languages and some ancient languages remain untranslated because they evoloved independently of our language system. Therefore the ability for the Monitor to understand English suggests that there is some common link somewhere in our past. Lastly, yes, lastly, in the books there are occasional references to the MC and other Spartans feeling as if they is somehow familiar with Forerunner and Covenant interfaces. There are also references of how Forerunner coordinate systems are based upon natural geometry or something to that effect. This suggests that Humans naturally understand Forerunner interfaces because theyre based upon patterns recognized by genes or something. This also alludes to a common link in evolution. I'm about to hit the 10000 character limit so thanks for reading.

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the engineers weren't in halo 1. I have no clue why not. they should have been on halo because it's an arttifact but don't ask me i wasnt the one who made that decision


it does seem reasonable that there could be some variation of the flood in halo 2.

  • 07.12.2004 8:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Bakaba
Well, its not totally out of the question, no, but some how the idea of an other Race other than the Covie's coming in to the picture just doesnt seem likely. Plus something tells me if that happened things wouild get really complicated really fast.


You are forgetting about the Flood. They are going to be in Halo 2. So, they may cause the covenant to run or something, but I don't know.

And as I have mentioned on about page 12 about if the covenant began to fracture, I think that individual prophets would break off with their own followers. But the High Prophet of Truth (the highest ranking prophet I think) would probably force everyone else back into line. I find the mere thought of an entire species going "Forget this! I'm leaving!" at the very same time even more unlikely than individual prophets breaking off.

  • 07.12.2004 8:44 PM PDT