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Subject: Is it worth it?

I was and still am wondering if buying Halo 2 Vista is worth it. What do you guys think?

  • 05.02.2010 4:25 PM PDT

Pioneer and Enthusiast for Halo 3.

Halo 2 is a great game. If you were there to see the big closing, then your a true fan! If you think that Halo 2 was great on the xbox, then your in luck. However, I am warning you that Halo 2 is no better on the PC, even though their is way more population playing Halo 2. I suggest, that you should buy it, as long as you have the money for it. It's a great game, and gets even more so fun than the Xbox!

  • 05.02.2010 5:30 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

I strongly oppose buying this game, and I'm disgusted it's still for sale. If you do get it, be prepared for disappointment.

  • 05.02.2010 7:41 PM PDT
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Hegemony: In Progress

Posted by: n357
I strongly oppose buying this game, and I'm disgusted it's still for sale. If you do get it, be prepared for disappointment.


Hmm, no specifics as to why you feel this way?

I personally am happy I bought it. I wasn't able to send Halo 2 off right on the Xbox, so I decided to celebrate in my own way.

Yes it's pretty much the same thing as Xbox (not including the achievements you get) but doesn't make it any less enjoyable. Be warned, however, there is not a very big population of people playing this still. I find that only a couple of servers at a time have half to full people playing. Even still, Im able to find a game.

It's a good way to remember Halo 2, and the fact that it's on the pc only makes it better (for me).

  • 05.03.2010 6:55 AM PDT
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No.

  • 05.03.2010 7:12 AM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: Havoxfire
Posted by: n357
I strongly oppose buying this game, and I'm disgusted it's still for sale. If you do get it, be prepared for disappointment.


Hmm, no specifics as to why you feel this way?

1) Server browser rarely works. May not be the case for everybody, but I've heard many complaints about this. The usual recommendation is to play some campaign and go back to see if it's decided to work. I bought H2V mainly for multiplayer, and it should work when I want to play, not when it feels like it.

2) Controls go to hell on high-end machines, specifically when the graphics rendering frame rate goes too high. The game was meant to run at 30 FPS, and now that the frame rate is uncapped, problems arise. You can turn on vertical sync (forced in driver since the game has no option for this) or hack the game to improve this issue, but why should that be necessary?

3) CTF on Coagulation.

4) CTF on Coagulation. Almost all the time, this is the only game you are going to find with more than a few people playing. All the balance and variety thrown away by the players and server admins.

5) Aimbot. Gearbox did the right thing by removing auto-aim in the PC version of Halo. If you choose to use a controller to play instead of mouse and keyboard, you have to actually aim yourself just like everybody else. In H2V, mouse users aim manually, while 360 controller users get the advantage of auto-aim.

6) Hacks. Everything from stealing someone's name, to changing yours, to crashing the game entirely. There have been no patches for functionality or security since H2V was released. One patch was released shortly after the game was shipped, but only to remove some nudity to save Microsoft some complaints and/or lawsuits.

7) Did you notice your linked gamertag does not give you a Bungie.net logo next to your name? I think that's proof right there what MS and Bungie think of PC players. An obvious sign of their lack of respect. Also, no stats available at all.

8) Split-screen co-op REMOVED from the PC version of Halo 2. A notable software activist refers to this as an "anti-feature". A lot could be said about why this happened, but in the end, a great feature was taken out of the game for no good reason. Deliberately crippled. And personally, I cannot beat the game on Legendary without a partner.

9) Map editing kit. The Halo PC editing kit allowed use of custom content from the start. The H2V editing kit tries to limit map makers to only the content included with the game. Luckily, some map makers realized how foolish and unfair this is and worked around it.

10) XP compatibility. Because H2V was nothing more than a throw-away marketing ploy by Microsoft to sell more copies of Windows Vista, an artificial and unnecessary barrier was coded to prevent players from running the game on XP. Thanks to a very small and simple patch, the restriction is bypassed and the game runs just as well on XP, albeit only in single-player mode.

11) I've been calling Microsoft support regularly for over a year now, asking for help with the server browser and control problems (the ones that affect me directly). There has been no resolution at all. There seems to be a secret policy to humor people who seek help with the game, but ultimately ignore them. I can't count how many times I've been told the information I've given would be "forwarded to the developers". Too bad the development crew have been disbanded.

12) Activation limit. Install too many times even if just troubleshooting, and the game shuts down. If you call MS support and request a new product key, they may decided to grant you one after several weeks wait.

There are more problems, but these are the bigger ones I can think of off the top of my head.

[Edited on 05.03.2010 8:16 AM PDT]

  • 05.03.2010 8:13 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Its ok, unless you play one of those CTF Coag games. They are always crappy, thanks to n00bs, and server admins killing the type. With FF off, br/sword start, and touch flag return with no flag must be home, you have a really crappy gametype.

  • 05.03.2010 8:28 AM PDT
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Hegemony: In Progress

Posted by: n357

1) Server browser rarely works. May not be the case for everybody, but I've heard many complaints about this. The usual recommendation is to play some campaign and go back to see if it's decided to work. I bought H2V mainly for multiplayer, and it should work when I want to play, not when it feels like it.

2) Controls go to hell on high-end machines, specifically when the graphics rendering frame rate goes too high. The game was meant to run at 30 FPS, and now that the frame rate is uncapped, problems arise. You can turn on vertical sync (forced in driver since the game has no option for this) or hack the game to improve this issue, but why should that be necessary?

3) CTF on Coagulation.

4) CTF on Coagulation. Almost all the time, this is the only game you are going to find with more than a few people playing. All the balance and variety thrown away by the players and server admins.

5) Aimbot. Gearbox did the right thing by removing auto-aim in the PC version of Halo. If you choose to use a controller to play instead of mouse and keyboard, you have to actually aim yourself just like everybody else. In H2V, mouse users aim manually, while 360 controller users get the advantage of auto-aim.

6) Hacks. Everything from stealing someone's name, to changing yours, to crashing the game entirely. There have been no patches for functionality or security since H2V was released. One patch was released shortly after the game was shipped, but only to remove some nudity to save Microsoft some complaints and/or lawsuits.

7) Did you notice your linked gamertag does not give you a Bungie.net logo next to your name? I think that's proof right there what MS and Bungie think of PC players. An obvious sign of their lack of respect. Also, no stats available at all.

8) Split-screen co-op REMOVED from the PC version of Halo 2. A notable software activist refers to this as an "anti-feature". A lot could be said about why this happened, but in the end, a great feature was taken out of the game for no good reason. Deliberately crippled. And personally, I cannot beat the game on Legendary without a partner.

9) Map editing kit. The Halo PC editing kit allowed use of custom content from the start. The H2V editing kit tries to limit map makers to only the content included with the game. Luckily, some map makers realized how foolish and unfair this is and worked around it.

10) XP compatibility. Because H2V was nothing more than a throw-away marketing ploy by Microsoft to sell more copies of Windows Vista, an artificial and unnecessary barrier was coded to prevent players from running the game on XP. Thanks to a very small and simple patch, the restriction is bypassed and the game runs just as well on XP, albeit only in single-player mode.

11) I've been calling Microsoft support regularly for over a year now, asking for help with the server browser and control problems (the ones that affect me directly). There has been no resolution at all. There seems to be a secret policy to humor people who seek help with the game, but ultimately ignore them. I can't count how many times I've been told the information I've given would be "forwarded to the developers". Too bad the development crew have been disbanded.

12) Activation limit. Install too many times even if just troubleshooting, and the game shuts down. If you call MS support and request a new product key, they may decided to grant you one after several weeks wait.

There are more problems, but these are the bigger ones I can think of off the top of my head.


I really can't argue with these valid complaints.

Is it even remotely close to any other competing PC FPS on the market today. lol wat? hell no.

I picked it up mainly for the easy achievements and the sentimental value of remembering Halo 2 on Xbox, which I was unable to do properly on the 14th.

If you're looking for a serious fps to get into on the PC, I suggest you look elsewhere. However, if you're looking to play a couple of "wtfever who cares" games just to look back on Halo 2 on Xbox, then sure go for it.

I personally found it to be fun going back through the campaign, then rolling in Live for a while getting some really easy achievements.

  • 05.03.2010 12:02 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

I just want it to work. If it works for you, that's great.

  • 05.03.2010 2:56 PM PDT

From,
Tristanoodle, the creator of the youtube show, The Warzone.

Stick with Halo: Combat Evolved. Theres more servers.

  • 05.03.2010 3:17 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

Posted by: tristanoodle
Stick with Halo: Combat Evolved. Theres more servers.


Also more win.

  • 05.03.2010 7:46 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

I found it funny that H2V released on May 31st, 2007 and hasn't seen crap for updates, yet Mechwarrior 4 was released on November 24th, 2000 and still receives regular updates.

  • 05.04.2010 11:23 AM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

I've been PC gaming since the late 1980s. I remember when there was no 3D acceleration. Imagine that.

I've watched this industry change dramatically. PC gaming and console gaming used to be very different.

Soon PC games were being ported to consoles, typically with crummy results, reduced graphics, etc.

That trend reversed itself. Now console games are typically ported to the PC.

Having said all that, H2v is by far the worst example of console to PC porting that I have ever played.

The game is pure garbage and seems to have been designed entirely by a group of Xbox developers with little understanding of the PC platform.

  • 05.04.2010 11:37 AM PDT
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Disgusting game isn't it?
how come there's no news about it since H2X is dead?
I wouldn't be surprised if M$ actually paid the media to be quiet about H2V.

[Edited on 05.04.2010 11:57 AM PDT]

  • 05.04.2010 11:56 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: Frnksnbns
I've been PC gaming since the late 1980s. I remember when there was no 3D acceleration. Imagine that.

Prince of Persia? Moar liek Orange Pixels of Persia, amirite?

  • 05.04.2010 12:05 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Eh, i heard FF7 PC was worse. But h2v was pretty bad because of bugs that were unpatched.

  • 05.04.2010 12:41 PM PDT

directive classified hmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmm singed kunai agent of E.V.A. saa itte miyo oka yume no kuni

it worth it if you must have halo 2 other than that no

  • 05.04.2010 12:54 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: JacobGRocks
Eh, i heard FF7 PC was worse. But h2v was pretty bad because of bugs that were unpatched.

It's got its bugs, but it can actually be modded. I heard one guy managed to rip some of the stuff from the Kingdom Hearts games and put it into FFVII PC.

  • 05.04.2010 3:05 PM PDT

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It is worth buying it. Get it. It is pretty.

  • 05.04.2010 3:40 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: HappyKiller911
It is worth buying it. Get it. It is pretty.

Yes. Get it because it's "pretty." Flawed logic, considering that not only is buying a game solely for the graphics a stupid idea, but also because H2V's graphics are terrible.

  • 05.04.2010 4:21 PM PDT

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It has it problems, significantly more than most other PC games of the same age. It's a 3 year old port of a 5 year old console game, and there is significantly less players than most other games.

I wouldn't suggest buying it, but if it's for sentimental reasons, you can still get it. It is virtually identical to the console version, the only major difference is that none of the glitches/mods/hacks/etc have been patched. But the community, although small, is still pretty good to play with.

And if you're looking for stats, check out www.monstermoose.com They still record Halo 2 Vista stats.

  • 05.05.2010 3:57 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: Scarecrow118
It has it problems, significantly more than most other PC games of the same age. It's a 3 year old port of a 5 year old console game, and there is significantly less players than most other games.

UT '99 is much older, and has significantly more players. Know why? Cause it's a much better game. Counter-Strike Source is older, and has significantly more players. Know why? Cause it's a much better game.

Halo PC is older, and has significantly more players. Know why? Cause it's a much better game.

Seeing the picture yet? Or should I keep going?

  • 05.05.2010 6:59 AM PDT
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ugh w/e, just let the kids buy it.

  • 05.05.2010 10:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Posted by: DusK

Prince of Persia? Moar liek Orange Pixels of Persia, amirite?


Didn't play it. But yeah. I've gone back and played some old games with emulation and they all suck.

  • 05.05.2010 3:46 PM PDT
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on the topic of ff7 pc, someone made a graphics patch so the battle sprites are used out of battle, so no more lego characters. that automatically makes ff7 pc better than h2v.

  • 05.05.2010 6:24 PM PDT

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