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  • Poll [80 votes]: AR vs. SMG
Subject: Halo Assault Rifle vs. H2 SMG
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Poll: AR vs. SMG  [closed]
SMG:  10%
(8 Votes)
Assault Rifle:  90%
(72 Votes)
Total Votes: 80

AR all the way

  • 08.10.2005 4:10 PM PDT
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Assault Rifle. The SMG is more effective, but less efficient; and the only reason it is more effective is because they fu.cked up the damn combat system! It's obvious it was created for multiplayer, instead of the fu.cking meat and potatoes of the damn game! Uh... I'm done ranting now. I like the AR because it is in Halo 1.

[Edited on 8/10/2005]

  • 08.10.2005 4:42 PM PDT
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It had the fastest meele in the game. I meele alot so I use the boxer set up in the settings menu. I loved the old AR! It was also a good weapon in MP. Throw a nade and finish em off with a couple of quick burst from the AR.

  • 08.10.2005 11:00 PM PDT
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There is no comparison. AR.

  • 08.12.2005 8:18 AM PDT

Posted by: JSRF_Clutch
It had the fastest meele in the game. I meele alot so I use the boxer set up in the settings menu. I loved the old AR! It was also a good weapon in MP.


Tru7h. (Also, boxer rocks!) When playing Halo 2, the weapon I miss the most is not the controversial Halo 1 pistol, but the humbly effective assault rifle. If you knew how to use the AR effectively, you could really embarass someone who thought himself untouchable with a shotgun in his hands.

The SMG is basically useless unless dual wielded with something else and used at close range, and at that range, the sword and shotgun are more useful anyway. I only use it when playing online with a bunch of people and all the popular weapons are taken.

  • 08.12.2005 8:30 AM PDT
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Hmm, I love green thumb =D

  • 08.12.2005 8:35 AM PDT
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If you play h2 long enough, you will soon realize that the SMG is more powerful. It takes less bullets to kill.

  • 08.12.2005 11:48 AM PDT
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I love the way the AR Sounds, looks, and overall feels. I'm not mad that it's not in Halo 2, and probally won't be in Halo 3, but I still love it!!

  • 08.12.2005 6:47 PM PDT
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Yeah! Screw short controlled bursts. I can really let loose on the AR... the only negative... it runs out way too fast. Seriously. They need at least 100 more rounds into the thing. I'm not so big on dual wielding stuff. I'm more for the whole solid gun.

  • 08.12.2005 7:16 PM PDT
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AR all the way, 3 or 4 bullets will kill a grunt.. SMG takes more.. Can't remember ever shooting off just one bullet with a SMG

  • 08.13.2005 5:56 AM PDT
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In reality the MA5B Assault Rifle would be much more effective then the SMG. First off, it would probably be a bit more accurate then in Halo (I'm certain they overdid the recoil in Halo or else the Assault Rifle would, "pwn"), and the AR has a higher caliber round then the SMG. I'm not even sure if you could manufacture an SMG in real life...the characteristics of it are bogus. A modern day MP5 would be more effective, even though you would have only half of the clip size, the much greater accuracy would be worth the trade off. Actually, isn't the SMG like 5-something mm? A MP5 is 9mm, so it would also pack a bit more punch then SMG too. In conclusion, the AR is the superior weapon.

  • 08.14.2005 1:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: TheVoiceofReason
If you play h2 long enough, you will soon realize that the SMG is more powerful. It takes less bullets to kill.
Thats because the halo 2 MC doesnt have a health meter...

  • 08.15.2005 1:31 AM PDT
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I like the good old MA5B assault rifle. Not that wimpy submachine gun. I never actually counted how many shots it takes to take down a grunt or elite with but it seems better to me. Plus it sounds cooler. SMG's sound like the masterchief's makin popcorn.

  • 08.15.2005 11:58 AM PDT
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I like Both, but the AR is nicer. In Halo 2 they should've kept it. Maybe also had the SMG just for Dual Wielding.

[Edited on 8/16/2005]

  • 08.16.2005 11:00 AM PDT

the ar works better, looks better and it is easier to pick up chicks with it

  • 08.16.2005 7:25 PM PDT
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I learnt a good lesson from the Flood, tap it, on MP it was simple, give 'em a few burst then go and crack their heads open,yum

  • 08.17.2005 9:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: sharpshooter_125
Yeah! Screw short controlled bursts. I can really let loose on the AR... the only negative... it runs out way too fast. Seriously. They need at least 100 more rounds into the thing. I'm not so big on dual wielding stuff. I'm more for the whole solid gun.


no use with out 400 or more
i dont blame the guys who HAD the idea
but those that let it slip
it was a first design and by the creators instincts was not well, but thas first impression

  • 08.17.2005 12:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Masterchief513
I like the good old MA5B assault rifle. Not that wimpy submachine gun. I never actually counted how many shots it takes to take down a grunt or elite with but it seems better to me. Plus it sounds cooler. SMG's sound like the masterchief's makin popcorn.

i agree
how can they relate the guns

MA5B
BR55 ? more like 0no00effect4410

  • 08.17.2005 12:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Old Koot
I like Both, but the AR is nicer. In Halo 2 they should've kept it. Maybe also had the SMG just for Dual Wielding.


even a dual wielded smgs could not make a match

just change the style and...

  • 08.17.2005 12:09 PM PDT
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they are both a lot of fun

  • 08.17.2005 8:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wolf of Liberty
In reality the MA5B Assault Rifle would be much more effective then the SMG. First off, it would probably be a bit more accurate then in Halo (I'm certain they overdid the recoil in Halo or else the Assault Rifle would, "pwn"), and the AR has a higher caliber round then the SMG. I'm not even sure if you could manufacture an SMG in real life...the characteristics of it are bogus. A modern day MP5 would be more effective, even though you would have only half of the clip size, the much greater accuracy would be worth the trade off. Actually, isn't the SMG like 5-something mm? A MP5 is 9mm, so it would also pack a bit more punch then SMG too. In conclusion, the AR is the superior weapon.

Got this from the instruction manuals.

Assault Rifle: This rifle is gas-operated and magazine-fed. It fires 7.62mm armor-piercing rounds.
SMG: "Bullet hose" fires sustained burst of 5mm fire from 60-round magazine. Tends to "walk" upwards as compounding momentum from recoil takes hold.

There are a few problems with the SMG, it's rounds are too small to be an effective weapon in real life, it would be like shooting a .22 machine gun, it wouldn't do anything to someone with armor on and there isn't going to be recoil, especially if a Spartan is using it, I don't see why they didn't just make a dual-wieldable AR, one that used the same rounds as the Halo AR because then that would make sense, and they should have included the First Strike magnum in Halo 2, that thing would own.


[Edited on 8/17/2005]

  • 08.17.2005 9:56 PM PDT
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AR all the way. I hate the dual weilding.

  • 08.18.2005 1:21 AM PDT
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Dude there is no competition here, the assault rifle whoops the SMG's butt hard-core! the AR is fully loaded with cool things and all in a ballance. Far away it can't shoot -blam- and its not accurate, medium range it can definitely do some damage, in yer face? and you don't stand a chance, especially with the plasma pistol AR combo. The wussy Sub Machine Gun just sounds like pop-corn or fingernails tapping. it cant shoot anything to save its life and the melee is mega weak. i just don't enjoy thrusting the but of the AR into a grunts face like i do an SMG..

  • 08.20.2005 2:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: foop
Dude there is no competition here, the assault rifle whoops the SMG's butt hard-core! the AR is fully loaded with cool things and all in a ballance. Far away it can't shoot -blam- and its not accurate, medium range it can definitely do some damage, in yer face? and you don't stand a chance, especially with the plasma pistol AR combo. The wussy Sub Machine Gun just sounds like pop-corn or fingernails tapping. it cant shoot anything to save its life and the melee is mega weak. i just don't enjoy thrusting the but of the AR into a grunts face like i do an SMG..

yeah, i cant help but think that that lame thing is running off of popcorn curnles or somthing.

  • 08.20.2005 3:11 AM PDT