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SINGLE KILL!!!

Posted by: NOMNOMNOMNOM
We are listening, we are watching, but we are not going to make major changes based on your day one review even if you have a really high k/d ratio, tens of thousands of Halo 3 games tallied, and credentials that date back to the halcyon days of Halo: CE.

But WHY DONT YOU listen to those that have been playing since 2001, those that do have 10s of thousands of Halo 3 and 2 games, instead of those that have 2,000 games of Halo 3 and will leave Reach like they did in Halo 3, and 2 after a year.

Why don't you listen to your hardcore gamers that stick around year after year till a new Halo comes out?
They did listen. They're making a 5th Halo game. They're definitely going to tweak things based on user input, but having 100 threads about broken grenades isn't helping anyone.

  • 05.04.2010 12:43 PM PDT

"Every morning when I rise I aspire to greatness"

NOT ENOUGH DMR'S. There are like 3 per map. -.-

  • 05.04.2010 12:44 PM PDT

I thought the beta was pretty good but just a few things:

This Game will be very abused unless handled properly, i think if they take the armor lock down a notch, make grenades thrown farther and stuff but my main thing

THERE SHOULD BE HALO 3 CONTROLS!!!! MAKE AN OPTION JUST LIKE HALO 3 PLEEEAASEEE!!!!

  • 05.04.2010 12:54 PM PDT

SINGLE KILL!!!

@BTAxXphoenixX

Not the place for this. And, isn't the "Recon" control scheme very similar?

[Edited on 05.04.2010 12:57 PM PDT]

  • 05.04.2010 12:56 PM PDT

Overall the beta is good. Some of the major issues are the renegades are way too strong. Combat (Melee vs Melee needs more work.
-The grenades needs to do less damage
-The melee combat needs work on.
-Green-Tumb button layout could use some tweaks (make B= Zoom rather than RB)

There is a lot more, just forgot them at the moment. I really hope the issues above will be fixed in the actual game.

  • 05.04.2010 1:10 PM PDT

Since when does a video game have to be realistic? Seriously, just let me shoot people and I'm happy.

lol that was a terse and cranky post bungie. anyway, I love the beta, but I'm going to wait until i've played more than a couple games to give you my feedback.

  • 05.04.2010 1:11 PM PDT
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I <3 you too Bungie

I'll admit that I got all ruffled and started retaliating in manner at the...

"OMG THIS ISN'T HALO I BETTER WRITE A WALL OF TEXT TO SHOW MY HATE FOR BUNGIE AND REACH"

...posters, so I'm not perfect, but can someone please start enforcing forum rules in the beta feedback forum? I can't even keep a discussion going on a valid topic because of all the nonsense going on.

  • 05.04.2010 1:12 PM PDT

shiz happens

Please bring back the b button for melee. All of the halo's had it why change it now?

  • 05.04.2010 1:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: NOMNOMNOMNOM
We are listening, we are watching, but we are not going to make major changes based on your day one review even if you have a really high k/d ratio, tens of thousands of Halo 3 games tallied, and credentials that date back to the halcyon days of Halo: CE.

But WHY DONT YOU listen to those that have been playing since 2001, those that do have 10s of thousands of Halo 3 and 2 games, instead of those that have 2,000 games of Halo 3 and will leave Reach like they did in Halo 3, and 2 after a year.

Why don't you listen to your hardcore gamers that stick around year after year till a new Halo comes out?

The ones that stilled played Halo 2 everyday till it was shut down. Those that are still playing Halo 3 day after day. But you cater to the casual gamer that will abandoned your game after a year for the new CoD game or something.

1) You don't have 10,000 Halo 3 games clocked on your profile, so *you* don't even meet your own criteria. And since when has limiting your intake of a particular artform qualify you to be a better critic of it? Why do gamers assume that it's a sign of devotion to keep from having other games influence their perspective?

2) If people only listen to their "most loyal fanbase" they never take the chance to expand. Maybe Bungie is more concerned about making forward progress instead of rehashing Halo 1 over and over again. If their newer endeavors are a waste of time, you hardcore fans can continue playing your hardcore games without us loser newbs getting in your way.

I've been playing since CE, and while I admit that there have been missteps along the way (the progression of the pistol, for instance) they've done a great job of trying to add new elements. Every step of the way "hardcore fans" have decried them as breaking the game. I have a couple friends who won't play any Halo games past CE (the sword broke the distance dynamic, aim assistance was a bit too pronounced, etc...), a level of hardcore fandom that you are clearly unable to compete with. And every step of the way, Bungie has determined that (whether because of the voice of the masses or their own artistic and technological enjoyment) progression overrides the desires for people to stay with what's comfortable.

  • 05.04.2010 1:16 PM PDT

shiz happens

Yes, please make the reach's controls halo 3 controls.

  • 05.04.2010 1:17 PM PDT

The Reach Beta is great! but a problem i had is that on powerhouse,people camp on a cupboard with the gravity hammer and smash you when you come in. (you get up there by crouch jumping) Thanks

  • 05.04.2010 1:18 PM PDT

I'll get to work on this right away.

  • 05.04.2010 1:21 PM PDT

AWESOME!!! Urk, you are the man! This is exactly the kind of post people need to see from Bungie telling the community how to best help you guys out.

Keep up the great work!

Oh, and one more thing...is there any way at all that we can get some mods to work on locking the pointless and redundandant threads in the feedback forum?

  • 05.04.2010 1:21 PM PDT

"This is for the Chief....wherever the hell he is"
--Sgt. Avery Johnson, Firefight

"This is for HARVEST...that's right I got a long memory"
--Sgt. Avery Johnson, Firefight

Lord Jesus thank you...I was waiting for something like this. I hope to see the feedback forum fall into place...

  • 05.04.2010 1:22 PM PDT
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I <3 you too Bungie

The problem is that kids don't take the time to read news probably...that and they will probably disregard. I stick with my earlier petition to please just start enforcing basic forum rules like no caps in titles, no flaming threads, etc.

  • 05.04.2010 1:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Eledhan
Oh, and one more thing...is there any way at all that we can get some mods to work on locking the pointless and redundandant threads in the feedback forum?


Right now it's a losing battle. For every thread we lock, five more pop up to replace it.

  • 05.04.2010 1:26 PM PDT

The problem that id like to report -

When I go invisible I'm unable to hear things like gunfire.
Armour Locks EMP blast doesn't knock enemies back far enough as I'm constantly coming out of Armour Lock and being assassinated.
When I come out of Invisibility with the Assault rifle the Ammo counter suddenly snaps back on instead of slowly repapering like the rest of the guns.
The Needle rifle in invisibility has an eerie pink glow at the base of the nedles.

Guns (Completely my opinion) -

Plasma Launcher - Seriously Overpowered(locks onto everything)
DMR - Slow Fire rate
Magnum - Not enough bullets
Plasma Pistol - Too long Charge




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  • 05.04.2010 1:38 PM PDT

“You know you're in love when you can't fall asleep because reality is finally better than your dreams.” -Dr.Seuss

I hear you guys are muting people that are giving negative feedback to the game, should'nt all feedback be constructive to what your trying to acomplish. i love the beta, but it does remind me to much of CoD. This should be a game of pure skill and teamwork, but the beta is more of worrying about yourself like CoD. Maps are too big for eight players, and to side with that, with maps being that big, no power weapons to be found. Only one power weapon per map is not effective enough.

  • 05.04.2010 1:41 PM PDT

Posted by: urk
Posted by: Eledhan
Oh, and one more thing...is there any way at all that we can get some mods to work on locking the pointless and redundandant threads in the feedback forum?


Right now it's a losing battle. For every thread we lock, five more pop up to replace it.


The solution to this conundrum is simple: make everyone a modera

I couldn't finish typing that.

  • 05.04.2010 1:54 PM PDT

Lacus Sloan

Can u change the health because it changes most of the ways to kill people.

  • 05.04.2010 2:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Legend Taco129
Can u change the health because it changes most of the ways to kill people.


Sure. Tell me what you'd like and I'll implement it immediately!

  • 05.04.2010 2:15 PM PDT

SINGLE KILL!!!

Posted by: urk
Posted by: Legend Taco129
Can u change the health because it changes most of the ways to kill people.


Sure. Tell me what you'd like and I'll implement it immediately!
Isn't it amazing? You write a post clearly telling people how & where to give you useful feedback and they just ignore it and start posting crap to THAT post. You know what I blame this on? The breakdown of the modern American public school system.

  • 05.04.2010 2:25 PM PDT

SINGLE KILL!!!

Posted by: schism297
lol that was a terse and cranky post bungie. anyway, I love the beta, but I'm going to wait until i've played more than a couple games to give you my feedback.
I'd call it a professional response to the quality of feedback they've been receiving. If you want terse and cranky, go to the Reach Feedback forum; it's like somebody killed everyone's dog. Last time I checked Halo 3 was still up and running...

  • 05.04.2010 2:33 PM PDT

I HAZ RECONZ

the exp system is -blam!- coz i won a game got 372 credit but my total exp went down and got me demoted

  • 05.04.2010 2:35 PM PDT

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A quick question...

Is discussing how I feel about the "map voting" system a legitimate Feedback topic, or more like a "it should shoot candy for ME" topic.

  • 05.04.2010 2:36 PM PDT