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In the Emperor's name, you shall not falter!

I put my Halo 2 disc in to play singleplayer, and it says there is an update from xbox live. I declined the update, and it signed me out of my profile. My xbox then froze.

I'm just posting this here because it was odd.

  • 05.16.2010 9:15 PM PDT
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Hmm, thought you can't receive XBL service no more...

  • 05.16.2010 10:04 PM PDT

Rofl, why did you decline?

  • 05.16.2010 11:01 PM PDT

E4web

You can receive the update, but it stops you from signing in.

  • 05.17.2010 2:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: Grumpy1
Rofl, why did you decline?

It rather freaked me out.

  • 05.17.2010 7:39 AM PDT

Pioneer and Enthusiast for Halo 3.

When was the last time you played Halo 2?

  • 05.17.2010 9:28 AM PDT
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If you don't have the latest update, it will ask you to update. You can decline (which I've had nothing happen) or accept, which is where you get "cannot connect to XBL servers"

This tells me that H2 servers are still there, but people are just being prevented from connecting to them.

I've been told if you play a LAN game with someone who has a higher version you will automatically be updated.

  • 05.17.2010 10:53 AM PDT

In the Emperor's name, you shall not falter!

Posted by: RetroMonster
When was the last time you played Halo 2?

The morning of the day they shut it down.

  • 05.17.2010 3:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Foley vonAwesom
If you don't have the latest update, it will ask you to update. You can decline (which I've had nothing happen) or accept, which is where you get "cannot connect to XBL servers"

This tells me that H2 servers are still there, but people are just being prevented from connecting to them.

I've been told if you play a LAN game with someone who has a higher version you will automatically be updated.


Wait.. if the H2 servers are still up then why did they cancel XBL, you have to pay to have servers up dont you? im kinda confused lol.

  • 05.17.2010 7:08 PM PDT

Posted by: n0t0rii0us
Posted by: Foley vonAwesom
If you don't have the latest update, it will ask you to update. You can decline (which I've had nothing happen) or accept, which is where you get "cannot connect to XBL servers"

This tells me that H2 servers are still there, but people are just being prevented from connecting to them.

I've been told if you play a LAN game with someone who has a higher version you will automatically be updated.


Wait.. if the H2 servers are still up then why did they cancel XBL, you have to pay to have servers up dont you? im kinda confused lol.
Valid question. I assume they are upgrading the servers rather than just toss them in the trash. Sadly, it's what's on the original xbox game disks that doomed them, not the servers. Programming moved on and the original live games stayed the same.

  • 05.17.2010 9:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: JacobGRocks
Yeah, Hitboxing = fail. For example, a certan user from the maw who has never played Halo 2 Xbox online links to this halo 2 bash video (its much less exreme in acutial gameplay) which shows hitboxing, but it also exists in halo 3, which also has unbalanced weps and n00b armor (recon).

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Posted by: n0t0rii0us
Posted by: Foley vonAwesom
If you don't have the latest update, it will ask you to update. You can decline (which I've had nothing happen) or accept, which is where you get "cannot connect to XBL servers"

This tells me that H2 servers are still there, but people are just being prevented from connecting to them.

I've been told if you play a LAN game with someone who has a higher version you will automatically be updated.


Wait.. if the H2 servers are still up then why did they cancel XBL, you have to pay to have servers up dont you? im kinda confused lol.
Valid question. I assume they are upgrading the servers rather than just toss them in the trash. Sadly, it's what's on the original xbox game disks that doomed them, not the servers. Programming moved on and the original live games stayed the same.

What I'm hearing is that it would be fairly simple to simply edit that part of the code and re-release some old Xbox Live games on xbla.

  • 05.17.2010 10:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Xelyx
What I'm hearing is that it would be fairly simple to simply edit that part of the code and re-release some old Xbox Live games on xbla.


Whilst that is true, it would be hard to release the games on LIVE due to licence holders that may not even exist anymore. The safest bet for these 'lost' licenses is that they are in the hands of Activision (as they snap these things up), and we all know about Activision... I thought of my own plan, but nobody picked up on it.

Posted by: o0MrCheesy0o
Would that mean if there was a way to by-pass the update you could play on xbl again?


That's what I thought as well, but as far as I know there is no way to bypass the update without modifying the game, and doing that will ban the console from LIVE, so it's a lose-lose situation.

  • 05.18.2010 4:36 AM PDT

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  • 05.19.2010 2:34 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Posted by: Ghost Unknown
Posted by: Xelyx
What I'm hearing is that it would be fairly simple to simply edit that part of the code and re-release some old Xbox Live games on xbla.


Whilst that is true, it would be hard to release the games on LIVE due to licence holders that may not even exist anymore. The safest bet for these 'lost' licenses is that they are in the hands of Activision (as they snap these things up), and we all know about Activision... I thought of my own plan, but nobody picked up on it.

Posted by: o0MrCheesy0o
Would that mean if there was a way to by-pass the update you could play on xbl again?


That's what I thought as well, but as far as I know there is no way to bypass the update without modifying the game, and doing that will ban the console from LIVE, so it's a lose-lose situation.

You can't bypass the update unless you put the patch files on the HDD. And the reason you get the error is the Xbox Live auth servers have been taken down.
However, it is possible for someone to recreate xbox Live and make their own unoffical servers. It has happened before with other games, however it would be hard.

Also, this is how i think Xbox Live Works:
Xbox Live/GFWLive is formed with a bunch of interconnected servers that do various functions. When one is cut, then you get a timeout error for that function. For example, when the DLC was taken off temporarly, you got a dlc unavalible error. Or when Halo 2 PC goes down, one of the GFWL servers is down as well.

When you connect, you authencate with a server. Then, you are logged into live, and it contacts the servers for the game/function.

Also, some parts of original xbox live are shared with 360 live, like the Friends list, Voice chat, and text messages (however trying to view older messages gives you a "open game x to view messages" error.) It's why they wanted to shut down original live so they could update the 360 side.

At the time of the shutdown, they were trying to support newer games (Halo 3, MW2, BC2) and old xbox 1 games (CS, Halo 2, MechAssualt, Unreal championship, etc.). The Zune network was also tied in to xbox live. To better support the newer games, they pulled Xbox Live.

[Edited on 05.20.2010 5:38 PM PDT]

  • 05.20.2010 5:29 PM PDT