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Subject: Playing with modders = BAD!
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i think that the best way to get rid of modders is to erase all of the new maps and leave halo the way it was when it first came out, FUN!!!!!

  • 08.21.2005 2:04 PM PDT
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thank you so much modders suck cuz they think they are the best and can woop everyone!!
Thanks bungie, but there is still some out there!

  • 08.21.2005 2:41 PM PDT
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MORE POWER TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! i hate de-rankers! they mess up the whole part of leveling up, if any thing, GO BUY A NEW ACCOUNT!!

  • 08.21.2005 2:46 PM PDT
Subject: Playing with modders = BAD!
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Thank god. I had been worried about this for a while. Thanks again and keep up the good work!

[Edited on 8/21/2005]

  • 08.21.2005 3:34 PM PDT
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Athough modders and the boosters may be banned, many including myself have lost rank to the modders b.s., is there any way that the experience can be reversed, so if you lose to modders, after the game is viewed by bungie and determined to be modded, the exp be reversed or just not considered at all, so we don't lose anything. And on the same topic if someone is modding in the clan the standbyers' clan whould be banned, can you ban the clan that the modders are playing in, because the only way to combat modders is apparently getting your own mods or modder, is that what I am going to have to start doing?

  • 08.21.2005 3:45 PM PDT
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How are you supposed to know if someone over xbox liv at another location whom you've never met before has modified content on his box? My friend hasnt been able to connect and believes hes been banned for partying with someone with modified content on their box. Also, if he did recieve a ban is there any way to tell other than not being able to find the xbox live server? maybe an automated message sent to the email address they registered with xbox live.

  • 08.21.2005 4:04 PM PDT
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!!!!BANNING CREDIT CARDS WILL NOT WORK!!!!

I will not say how but I do know there is a way around it but why can't Bungie ban IP' Addy's??

Anywho how can you tell if someone cheated by looking at the game data? Im not sure how to read that stuff. If someone want's to teach me my YahooID is SubliminalNinja and so is my MSN oh and my GT is "xMK ULTRA"

  • 08.21.2005 4:23 PM PDT
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http://bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?gameID=279364993&p layer=xMK%20ULTRA#

  • 08.21.2005 5:15 PM PDT
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First my opinion, I know many people say this but i know it for truth, modders suck, yes they do annoy the hell out of me, but they suck because they are sorry players, i have earned in every reguard my rank, (at this point a 31) and i have faced modders, and beat them (litterally, triple kills and won games) through use of teamwork. i have lost to modders aswell, more than i like to admit, but it happens. to all the players i know who have earned thoes 30s - 34s legit (i have yet to even see anyone over 34 that got there legit, boosting and modding are serious problems past lvl 30) you know that teamwork is what got u there, do not quit, do not lie down and die, but fight them as a team, and overcome modders are hard to kill, but you can kill them, they die like we do, and when u have everyone shooting at that modder he will go down, (the combo works on modders very well.) try and stick them, get the sword, you cannot assassinate them, so don't try.( buy u can swing with the sword so u go as fast as they do, shoot while flying and swing again) They are moving so fast, if you've ever watched one, they even get disoriented, no matter how unfair, the legit players will prevail if they stay and fight for the win. you just have to change your tactics. i'm telling you right now, the best feeling in the world is when your team is facing modders, and YOU come out on top.

Next a question for the bungie team ,boosting (as i refer to it, high levels partying with a low lvl so the enemys are of a lower lvl) what is your standpoint? I do not boost (cheating weakens only yourself) but i have seen too many games like this;
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?gameID=280670659&a mp;player=WES727

and it undermines how hard i worked for my rank when people of the same rank play dirty.

P.S. because this account is new i have yet to link my gamertag to it, my gamertag is KAK0V that's kappa alpha kappa zero virgo

  • 08.21.2005 5:41 PM PDT
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im glad you guys are booting the modders but it suck because i playid againts two modder and my rank went down alot . so you guys should have people from your company play in halo2 and make sure when there is a modder playing boot him because other players will lose ther rank . so this all i have to say about the modders .

sinceraly, revolution88

  • 08.21.2005 5:53 PM PDT
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still bungie need to make this better they should look up the account user and ban all of there account not just the one idiot that is wrecking the game for us. im tired of loosing my lvl cus guy come along and mods

  • 08.21.2005 6:05 PM PDT
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he has a point im sure someone at bungie likes to play Halo 2 some of u guys should go around matchmaking checking things out

  • 08.21.2005 6:07 PM PDT
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Hooray for the magical force known as queries!
I've never played against a modder (yet?), but I'm assuming it makes you angry.
So, what would you do for a Klondike Bar? - er - Gooooo Bungie!

  • 08.21.2005 6:20 PM PDT
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It seems to me that Bungie is kinda' missing the boat here. Before I continue, let me first state that Modding in matchmaking & boosting, are definately bad things. That being said, the custom game mods are only adding to the enjoyment of Halo2 by the participants, and the longevity of the game itself. I fail to see how those are bad things.

I'm an avid glitch hunter, and love stuff like getting out of the level, and exploring. I've just about done it all though.. there's a limit.
I joined a friend's game one day and discovered a huge scarab standing in the middle of Turf. It was amazing to sword cancel ourselves up there, seeing the incredible view and stuff.
(the maps are really neat to get a bird's eye view of)
Then someone (the modder, presumably) flew up there in the warthog to join us.

ID software embraced this kind of thing, propelling Doom 1 & 2 (and quake) a lot further into the hearts of fans. People still play Doom1 & 2! BUNCHES of people! It has very little to do with the original games, the original stuff barely even exists. However, you can bet that those doom 1 & 2 fans bought Doom 3.

Perhaps Halo 2 has been too successful, and has created a situation where you figure that you don't have to tolerate modders. You're in a position to do as one of the other posters suggested; give the modders a place to play, thereby stopping their focus on ruining halo 2 for the rest of us.

Unfortunately, since that's not something you want to support, you're pushing folks away from LIVE, and literally forcing them to join XBC (Xbox connect) the free alternative to LIVE. The ones that don't go there are the ones that will continue to find ways to get around the halfhearted attempt to ban them, and simply come back to where you don't want them.

How is that good for business in ANY way?

For the record, registration with LIVE should include the serial number, or IP address of the unit (or game) being used. Until you begin banning by something other than gametags, you're merely promoting the free accounts. Amazing how the folks that legitimately play Halo2 have to pay only to be trashed by modders, while the modders are able to get free accounts and stuff like they're growing on trees.

(I guess you have to get banned a few times before you research the free account stuff. Good job, LIVE, way to feed both ends and esasperate the issue.)

You do realize that modders can invite a friend into a modded game without revealling that it's modded, right? what better way to create more of a headache for you. Just get on people's friend lists and then invite them into your modded levels regularly, without any noticeable mods. Then you'd be banning the innocent on a wholesale slaughter level, which raises the public outcry. You'd be forced to stop, or see a dramatic decline in LIVE accounts. After all, there's no better game than Halo 2.. if you can't play it, why fork-over the cash for LIVE?

  • 08.21.2005 7:05 PM PDT
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I agree with Phoenix why not let the modders have their mud pool to wallow in.
Find a way to get them out of the rank games and rope them up and send them off to a place of their own. Maybe you can call it Modders Market or Mod it Up or Mod not Mom
whatever the playlists is call Just get them away from us. Let them be this is America
where's the freedom on XboxLive in Halo 2. Yes i know there are rules to follow but since they are on a whole nother level give them their own world to play in.

Don't be mean to the modders so them Love and give them a Home.

  • 08.21.2005 8:38 PM PDT
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i dont understand why i was band when i absolutly hate modders! ive lost my lvl because of them so many times its rediculous. everytime i join a custom game and theres a modder in it i leave. but now im permenently band? what for? i would really like some answers but i dont know who to contact! ive already sent like 4 letters out but i highly doubt i will be heard because 100s of thousands of people who deserved to get banned are trying to do the same as me. i dont understand why bungie would do this to me... i had so much respect for them ... if anybody sees this please respond i dont know what to do

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  • 08.21.2005 8:43 PM PDT
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First i get A 2 Day suspension for playing in custom games with modders. NO WARNING. Then I join a random guy on my friend list and the custom game i join for 5 mins is modded and i get a 7day suspension. Bungie shares 2 ball between them all. Thank God it was a secondary account or i would come to your houses and make the Texas chain saw massacre seem like the teletubies.

  • 08.21.2005 10:13 PM PDT
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Why do you respect them They made a crappy game in reality. If i had the Cash i would buy a new one to play with my friends. Name one thing that make this a great game..... online offline would be increadable if it could be done. They give standbyers host or the network bridgers take it by force. They let the Modders run free for Months. YOU CAN DELETE FEED BACK. It is stored on your Xbox and if you know how you can go in a delete it. Standbyers are still running rampant in HtH and DT. There is a new thing where if you don't get host you can make it so you and the other guy get Exp for the hth game. Every 5 or so games a guy lags himself out before the game starts and he and i lvl up??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????Bungie is a -blam!-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bungie is a -blam!- that loves dick from the hackers...................................................... ............................................................. ............................................................. ............................................................. ............................................................. ..........................11111111111111111111111111111111111 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 1111111111111222222222222222222222222222222222222222222333333 3333333333333333333333333333334444444444444444444444444444444 4444444445555555555555555555555555555555555555566666666666666 666666666666666777777777777777777777777777777u888888888888888 8888888888889999999999999999000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000WWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E

I am going to kill someone at bungie.






J/K





Maybe.

  • 08.21.2005 10:21 PM PDT
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What about mod hunting? in order for somone to get cold hard evidence one needs to have them commit the crime to gain a url link to the game as proof.
What advice could you give in that respect?

  • 08.21.2005 10:30 PM PDT
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bwahahahaha! Played so hard for? So...you're buddy TRIGUN MODS isn't modding to boost his other account and yours, he's really good enough to get 47 kills in one match. Wow, it must be tough to get 32 with a player like that on your team. Don't forget bud, we can check your stats anytime. Check mine, i'm a real player. I hover in the mid 20's, so i'm not great by any means, but i actually earned my lvl. I'm willing to bet you'd get owned by a 15. Have a nice day :)

  • 08.22.2005 12:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sir Tankalot
I have a question, why not reset the stats then there would be no modders high enough to boost their friends. Also why not make a special version of halo 2 strictly for modders? One way to get rid of them is to make them play some where else, then you can find out who mods and if they choose to go back and play on the legit version then you can ban them.

Culexevilman responed:Yeah reset the ranks we played so hard for. yeah retard looks like you stats are garbage anyways.

Blarg, this was supposed to be with my last message ><

  • 08.22.2005 12:26 AM PDT
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One last note before i head off.....anyone checked the game stats for the leaderboards? Um, anyone that works for Bungie that is. Come one guys, you're smarter than that. Amazing how some people managed to get Warlock 15 times in a row. Please, give the credit to the real players out there. Just take a glance at the leader's game stats, and, well, just look at them. It shouldn't take you more than 3 seconds to know what the right thing to do is. I don't spazz about my rank, like i said, i'm just an average player, but some people take it seriously, and having jokes like that at the top of the leader board is just a slap in the face for the people who keep food on your table. Think about that.






  • 08.22.2005 12:34 AM PDT
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numb nuts who you talking to. If me I -blam!- your dumb ass anytime. respond with your tag and ill send a friend request. your Host my host old map new map dont matter. unless you run on 1/4 megabite dsl. and live in France. Hit31 in slayer and hth Total legit. I am going to get my 31 back in hth now that I know how to get points no matter what if I am not host. Cheating maybe but i wont be robbing anyone just not lossing.

  • 08.22.2005 12:49 AM PDT
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erg...hehe, one mre thing that's bugging me. Appearently some of you forget that they ban for more than just mods. If you haven't been cheating, but you've been banned anyway, i'm willing to bet money on the fact that you've been doing something alont the lines of "threats or harrassment, screaming, etc." Feedback has more options than just "Cheating." ............................................................. .................the whole world is being taken over by morons...........*cough* *George W.* *cough*......................

  • 08.22.2005 1:02 AM PDT
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i can't type

  • 08.22.2005 1:02 AM PDT