The News
This topic has moved here: Subject: The Great (Hollywood) Journey
  • Subject: The Great (Hollywood) Journey
Subject: The Great (Hollywood) Journey
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

that would be aswome if it was ont he First book i want to see that or play the first book lol

  • 08.26.2005 3:47 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I still think it's a bad idea. But maybe I'll be wrong.

  • 08.26.2005 3:53 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

You better be wrong. If It turn's out to be pitiful I'll poo all over the Staion of Bungie. And I liquid S#!% In their mouths after if i have time.

  • 08.26.2005 4:10 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

YES!!! Grunts are gonna be in the movie!!! Well, since they're computer-animated...Joe Staten can be the voice actor!

  • 08.26.2005 4:49 PM PDT
Subject: Possible ideas for cast members...
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Okay, so here are my picks... and just my opinions...

The Master Chief - Unknown. Someone tall (remember the Chief is over 6 feet, close to seven... those Spartans eat their Wheaties). We don't get to see him. Must be athletic and muscular, but not "beefcake". Must have very good experience in physical acting, not just for action sequences, but also for the body language that Spartans share with each other. Remember, a lot of what we see and get from the Chief in the first Halo game along is via body language.

Captain Keyes - This one was easy... Robert Duvall . However, as an alternative, I think that Martin Sheen would work as well.

Cortana - I'll say it again... JEN TAYLOR. She's got two games called Halo and Halo 2 under her resume, and she's also got a voice that sounds like a spot on impression of Cortana. Hell, she even looks like Cortana, in a way...

Dr. Catherine Halsey (do you people honestly believe they won't give SOME primer info as to what exactly a Spartan is? Seeing as how the SPARTAN-II program is her creation, she has to be shown somehow) - This one was hard... for a while I thought of Cate Blanchett, or even Meryl Streep, but now I'm debating and wondering if maybe Catherine wouldn't be better played by Glenn Close. Of course, you could always make a sort of homage casting choice by choosing Sigourney Weaver for the part as well.

Sergeant A.J. Johnson - This one isn't easy, either... I was thinking either Keith David, or maybe even Al Matthews, who played Sergeant Apone in Aliens (face it, that film had a hell of a good cast).

Whoops... looks like it'll have to be Al Matthews for Sgt. Johnson, since Keith David's talents will be needed elsewhere... namely, as the Covenant general who decides to glass Reach before he eventually becomes the Arbiter ... look at #7 on his resume after you click the link.

Other cast members... Echo 419? Sgt. Stacker (if at all)? And, most importantly...

... who to play the part of Pfc. Jenkins?

  • 08.26.2005 4:59 PM PDT
Subject: The Great (Hollywood) Journey
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Who is in the line up for roll as master chief and cortana?

  • 08.26.2005 5:09 PM PDT
Subject: Possible ideas for cast members... part II
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I've been reading around... some other people's ideas... especially for the Master Chief...

Vin Diesel - this one comes up the most. Reason why not - too short. The Chief is something like 6.6" normally, topping out around 7 feet in MJOLNIR. Vin is too short (sorry Vin, I love ya, and I AM looking forward to you in Hitman).

Stallone - possible, but again, no. Stallone is too short, like Diesel. Again, no offense. Also, both guys are a bit too bulky.

Now, before I get flamed... here are a few things to consider... the first iteration of MJOLNIR armor was bulky because, well, it was still their first time doing it. So of course the Spartans look big in them. Anyone ever notice how much slimmer the Chief looks in Mk. VI armor? Most likely because of the fact that they were able to refine the process, making it more effective with less mass (gotta love those guys at ONI engineering).

If anything, the Chief is tall, and has the physique of something like a triathlon runner. Compact, well defined, but not overly big. Don't forget, the Chief runs all over the place - runners tend to be more lean than bulky.

Some people have said the guy from the Transporter movies, Jason Statham. Not a bad idea. Has the lean compact build that I've been getting at this whole post.

As for director... Ridley Scott would be great, or even his brother Tony Scott (who did Top Gun, for those of you who are wondering). Other directors who I think would give the movie it's due attention to detail are James Cameron (obvious choice), or even David Fincher (Fight Club, Seven).

Another important question - who is going to make the MJOLNIR armor? Personally, ever since the boys at Nightmare Armor tossed a legal threat to HBO, I'm disinclined to choose them. I'd say get the team who made the Batmobile and the Batsuit for the movie Batman Begins to make both the Warthog and MJOLNIR armor. The reasons why they were so great in the movie was because they made it as close to real-life functioning as possible. I doubt (lol) that they could make a fully functioning suit of MJOLNIR with the Covenant shield tech, but something that can take a lot of abuse and punishment would be necessary. Same with the Hog... hell, they made the monster Batmobile, the 'Hog shouldn't be much of a challenge for them.

And for the Flood? Stan Winston and his studio.

  • 08.26.2005 5:29 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I definitely agree with Ogun- he should be a military type- most of whom are not that big. More of a general v- shape athlete look. The guy from the transporter is a good choice- hate his voice though- just find someone new. he will be extremely easy to use and very willing to do whatever you ask- which is going to be crazy green screen stuff. But on the other hand- if they have the $$ flow- they can use anyone with forced perspective- look at the guys in LOTR. The dwarf is the guy who plays Salah in the Indiana Jones movies- and he's about 6'4. So height is really not any issue- they can make him as tall as they want to, especially in the armor-which we all know is going to be half cg anyway.

I also agrea with the use of the people in Batman Begins- the "batmobile" is pretty close to a worthog already- think they stole it Bungie. Could be used with only minor mods. They nomex fighting suit is a little light- but the right idea is there- you can make a suit at home if you wanted out of some poly foam and some paint.

My suggestion for director is someone who has played the games and in tune with the script. If he wants to change it- he is just going to be doing the whole uphill battle thing. Although, a good director should be given some play with the script on things he sees need improvement. Some play, but not much. Some things just don't work that are in the script- and things will always be added/changed/removed with a good director/editing. Ok, that's the new wisdom of the dat from Clarkisgod.

  • 08.26.2005 9:06 PM PDT
Subject: The Great (Hollywood) Journey
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Halo should not be changed for hollywood it should be exactly like the game graphics not real people. If i even hear brad pitt i'll convert to ps2 i swear to god. I know that the previous statement was scar-religious but come on keep it real. Halo players have become acustom to Bungies awesome ideas and free thinking. Bungie is one of the best things for gamers everywhere since Atari and Duck Hunter. And if bungie changes what next. IN 2012 XBOX AND PS2 COMBINE AND FORM >>>>>PSBIZOX<<<<<<. This is the end of my rant . Thank you for listening. GamerTag: Denostmai
Email: denostmai@yahoo.com
WORT WORT WORT

  • 08.26.2005 9:24 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

ok BUNGIE => rules as stated by hardcore fans

1-dont let it suck

2-it better be good

3-be carefull with it - you know, like its some kind of stick in the gelignite form with a thin cardboard wrapping.

4-people are saying CGI CGI all over the place - keep it as real as possible - solution being latex!, LOTR orcs and urak-hai were latex they looked fan-bloody-tastic. exceptions being big battles where you need CGI input and things like running over an elite or tearing a grunt to shreads with an assault rifle - even those situations im sure people can use some other form of movie magic to avoid the funny look of CGI.

5-what ever you do, do not get Samuel L. Jackson for the sergeant - his too damn common these days that Jackson. i would preffer if you chose fat albert over jackson. but im sure your able to find someone more suitable.

6-get umpa lumpa people - you know, the little guys - for the grunts and whack'em in a latex type suit. with their armour and weapons they'd look real as! do the same with the elites but with taller people obviously.

7-make sure the chiefs armour is cool and NEVER EVER SHOW THE CHIEFS FACE no matter what! im sure this is in that bible of yours but if its not - by gee whiz!

8-seriously i wasn't joking about not showing the chiefs face

thats all i can think of now - but i'll be back

  • 08.26.2005 10:54 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

oh yeah
i know this is friggin wildly insane
but you know how we all like you so much 'mr. bungie' sir, well i was kinda hoping that you know, maybe, if you want to repay some dedicated fans you could email a few lucky lucky very extremely luckfull riden lucky fans telling them to go to such and such a place on such and such a date to put on an elite suit an act as an extra in a scene or two. you know just an idea - an an idea that is damn good.

seriously - instead of having a bunch of un-enthused extras get some hardcore dedicated fans to fill the boots of an elite.

i mean you guys are always saying you wouldn't be where you are today if it wasn't for us and that your even making the movie for us, well im sure me and a thousand other fans would happily have their own little place in the world of Halo as an extra marine or elite or i don't care dress me up as a tree and stick me in the storage closet, just as long as i feel i've been a part of what should be the absolute best flick of all time!

  • 08.26.2005 11:09 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Has anyone noticed that in the page out of that "halo bible" that we were given, they called the Fuel Rod cannon a 'Flak cannon'?

Elite suits? And are you going to surgically add extra joints in the actors' legs to make them fit in the suits? Elite legs effectively have two knees: one normal, and another one facing backwards further down the leg. Sangheili have to be CG.

As for the choice of actors... just note that Dr. Halsey is around the same age as keyes, probably older. Also actors could be chosen using a computer. Facial recognition software works by measuring the person's mouth width, nose size, and other length of their face (Distance between the eyes, etc.) Do that to the characters from the game and look for closest matches in some actor database.

Oh, an ... DO NOT SHOW THE CHIEF'S FACE!!!.

  • 08.27.2005 1:25 AM PDT
Subject: Possible ideas for cast members... part III
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Okay, this isn't so much about cast members... though some of it is.

I've heard Bruce Willis thrown around... pleasegodno. Has something of the right physique, but I think his ego is too high, and that is something that has more trouble being brought down to size... can't exactly cgi that out. Not that I would know if Bruce does have an ego... from what I've heard, he's a pretty down to earth guy.. but then again, we were also supposed to find WMD in Iraq.

But I digress...

Please, no "Keanu syndrome" actors. The "Keanu syndrome" is where a studio has a hit movie on their hands, but it's a bit risky. So what do they do to make sure that they get good box office receipts? Put someone with a pretty face in it, regardless if they can act, so people of the opposite (or same) gender will come to watch the show, just to enjoy the sights. Now, performances aside, I'm sure you all get what I'm saying by now when I say that the Keanu syndrome was started with the movie the Matrix... and has gone from there. Batman Begins almost did it with Katie Holmes, but thankfully she wasn't the main character.

Someone else posted that the more real it is, the better... and I agree. There is only so much one can do with CG, and while I can understand certain things (i.e. Hunters, for example) being CG in certain shots, or other things being CG (the Chief's shield flaring when it takes hits), the more "real world" it is, the more authentic it translates to on film, and thusly on screen.

Elites would pose a special problem, I think... and I do wonder if they would include the character of the Arbiter (before he became the Arbiter, when he was the general) in the movie, in case they decided to make a sequel, so as to create a sense of continuity for later in the films.

Now, for directors. The reason why Iisted all the ones I did was for one very simple reason - PRODUCTION QUALITY. All of the directors I listed are know for making movies that don't skimp, i.e. if they need their assault rifle to look a certain way, then they will do whatever it damn well takes to make sure that their assault rifle (or alien creature, or deep space station, or uninhabited alien ringworld) looks as real and as authentic as possible. They don't cut corners, but they also know how to get things to look and feel a certain way, and how to do it right.

This is, more than anything else, what the movie of Halo needs - someone who can see and understand the vision that Bungie is placing before them in the script, and make it come to life and not cut corners, or make it too far fantastic or out there, but keep it instead grounded in the firm truths of reality (as much as is possible with a movie). They need to be familiar with, see, grasp, and understand the vision, and from there be able to bring it out and not overdo it all, but give it the respect it deserves.

Which makes me realize... add one more director to the list... Christopher Nolan, who did Batman Begins. That movie not only made up for the mistakes of the past films in the franchise, but it also set a new standard (for me, anyways) as to what a film based on something like a game or a comic book should be like.

Now, as ages go... if Keyes was in his thirties when he found John-117 with Dr. Halsey, then he would be around 70 or so when he is on Halo. If he was in his 20's, then he would be in his 60's. Which makes sense, since I'm giving forty years as that is (if I recall correctly) about how old the Master Chief is when he is on Halo. Hence my recommendation for Robert Duvall as Keyes.

Finally, as it just occured to me in a brain flash - Edward Norton in a cameo as Pfc. Jenkins.

  • 08.27.2005 2:37 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I have to agree on most parts, especially WMD, but john was about six when he was abducted, and Keyes was probably still in his twenties. It would only take a few hours to approximate each character's DOB from date and age references in the books this would narrow down the field of possibilities...a little. But why am I even worried? They'll make the actors look the right age, its possible. Like did you know that the same guy played Darth Sidious in ALL Star Wars movies, old and new?
And as for the covies, I wonder if there will be any drones or brutes in the movie?
Didn't bungie already select a producer? Peter Schlessel?

  • 08.27.2005 3:23 AM PDT
Subject: Movie
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

you know 2007 is far off. and yes i undertsand it takes years to make a movie, but by 2007 i wont be playing halo anymore. Halo 2 is already getting boring betwwen moders and standbyers. I might go see this movie tho, it sounds good. that is if its not just another "hollywood" plot. Guy shoots stuff up, meets girl, girl dies. end. lame.Please make this movie good!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  • 08.27.2005 5:52 AM PDT
Subject: The Great (Hollywood) Journey
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

This sounds promising ill be ther sometime opening night.

  • 08.27.2005 8:17 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

When I was half way through reading "The Fall of Reach" I thought to myself, "Damn, this really needs to be made into a movie!" The amount of material in just half of a book is enough for a solid 2-hour movie. Those books were a really good read. Of course I am a die hard Halo and Halo (2) fan and would love to see this project come alive. I will definitely be there the opening night!

I have posted these same words on many other movie and entertainment forums with the same message; To any skeptics out there to this movie..READ THE BOOKS. Then you will understand that this movie will not just be a shoot 'em up, yee-haw, gung-ho, action movie that equates to the action sequences of the game. It will have a real plot that will skull-drag you off of your movie chair right from the get-go. You won't even glance at your popcorn and beverage!

If they stick to the books, they'll be fine, because it will contain every major event of the games, scene-for-scene, and much more. There is so much plot in the story untapped by the games, that you could EASILY make a series off of the novels. Getting off on a tangent..

Since the games don't reveal the Chief's face I don't think we should have a famous actor in the MJOLNIR suit. Just get a friggin' huge guy like Kane and use Downes' voice like in the game. To keep it in tradition would make the movie seem so real. The same goes for Cortana. There is not an actress out there that could match her or even one that looks like her! I'm sure if Bungie could create the holographic A.I. on their budget, then big-budget movie-makers and Microsoft combined could re-create those special effects on screen and just stick with Jen Taylor as the voice actress. That would be fitting.

Ed Harris as Captain Keyes? You bet! He has got the military roles down pat (He was an excellent General in "The Rock"). He looks the part and he is a terrific actor ("The Abyss"....C'mon!).

The consensus for Sgt. Johnson seems to be Samuel L. Jackson and that is a fine candidate, but I think Louis Gosett Jr. (Iron Eagle) would be better suited for this role for two reasons. One, because he is not as "main-stream" as Jackson in that he is not very famous. I think that if we bring any super-famous actor in the movie it will distract you and you will form opinions early-on and be biased in one way or the other. Could you image if we had Ben Affleck as the Chief? This guy is a caniving, marriage-cheating pretty boy! Also, he is not tough! He is scrawny compared to what a Spartan should be. Could you picture Affleck as a super soldier? Another point there is Vin Diesel. Yeah he is buff and tough, yeah he's got that deep and tough voice, and he's cool, but I think he would bring too much "ghetto" to the movie. This is why we have to stay away from main-stream actors...too much association with other movies and their personal lives. Just MHO. Now back to the other reason. Two, because Gossett looks a lot like Sgt. Johnson. He also has a very tough face and has that leather-lunged voice of a Marine Drill Instructor. Jackson doesn't have that. Sam has the ferocity and can be pretty damn funny and he was great in "Basic", but he can't touch Gossett for Sgt. Johnson..they are just too much alike. Just watch "Iron Eagle"..might be tough to find, but you'll like it.

All in all, I think it will turn out great if not for the special effects alone. Everyone that has played these games and/or read the books knows this is just a special effects supernova waiting to happen. I know that Bungie, Micsrosoft, Fox, and Universal will do it justice because there is a huge fan base out there and they have a real opportunity to make this a collossal movie that doesn't follow the typical game-to-movie tradition (Super Mario Bros.)
I comfort in the fact that Bungie was very stringent who they partitioned their rights to and it sounds like they've done a fine job thus far. I hope they continue to have most of the creative control.

  • 08.27.2005 9:57 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I think that largely this movie should be made on a actor/cgi hybrid. I'm sure today we can have real actors working side by side with cgi. For instance, some mentioned hunter and elite characters and the flaring of MC's shield and so on..

I think you can have people in elite suits on a blue-screen backdrop to edit out their legs to make it look like an authentic elite. Same with hunters, just have a bunch of losers in yhetti outfits waddling around a blue screen stage and presto! CGI Hunter!

MC's shield flaring up when taking fire should be quite a sight! I'm O-ing just thinking about it. I cannot wait to hear more official news about this movie!

  • 08.27.2005 11:36 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Gosh everyone is posting such long things.

  • 08.27.2005 12:53 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I have yet to see 28 days later, but (along with everyone else who is worth their weight in salt) I have seen LOTR, and if it's true that PJ is directing this..........


sweetness.

  • 08.27.2005 1:29 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I don't know if this is posted, but I think the director is going to be Ume Boll. I started and reposted this and somebody is going to flame me but, -blam!- Ume Boll. I just watched Alone in the Dark, and noticed the director was Ume Boll. If you look at what other movies this guy made and is going to make this guy should be stopped, before he ruins something great. Some of these games are really cool, but the movies that he has finished and totally jacked up really, really suck. I also heard that he might be doing Halo. Please Bungie don't let it happen.


Far Cry (2006) (announced)
Fear Effect (2006) (announced)
Hunter: The Reckoning (2006) (announced)
Night Claws (2005) (announced)
Dungeon Siege (2006) (filming)
Bloodrayne (2005) (post-production)
Alone in the Dark (2005)
House of the Dead (2003e Boll.

  • 08.27.2005 4:53 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

you know we're all discussing some pretty good ideas here.
it's great to see what the fans really want to see.
i just hope those guys are reading all this stuff.

  • 08.27.2005 5:43 PM PDT
Subject: The Great (Hollywood) TYPO
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

You know, I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I didn't want to wade through all those pages . . .

Did anybody take a look at the sample companion page? Specifically, the part where it states that Grunts carry a Flak Cannon? What the hell is a Flak Cannon?
Unless I'm mistaken, it's a Fuel Rod Cannon Bungie. Not Flak. Fuel Rod.

I mean, wow.

  • 08.28.2005 9:35 PM PDT
Subject: The Great (Hollywood) Journey
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

the halo movie should be completly CG, and use all the same voices from the game. they should include all the weapons and veicles, make them act like in the game, and shouldn't add any new ones. they should make it in the halo 1 story and stay close to the story, but don't make it the same EXACT thing. they should include all the characters, and make them act the same as in the game. PLEASE make the movie like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 08.29.2005 5:00 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I wonder, do anyone actually read what is written in this tread? So far the whole Flak Gun issue has been mentioned at least five times. I think that both us, the users of this forum, and Bungie has gotten it by know. Not to mention the question about actors/plot/style. I'm pretty sure that no one would be in doubt when Bungie decides to tell us more about the movie.

Anyway, I don't think I would be that mad if they showed John's face. (Just for the record, I've always pictured him as a mix between Sylvester Stallone and Kurt Russel. Just very pale.) I could however understand why some would be mad, as all Halo fans has their own John. Especially if they haven't read the books. Without the books, no one could really have told whether or not John was caucasian or not.

I would appreciate that the movie had a 'new' plot, instead of using an 'old' one like the plot from the books or the games. That way, they could continue the plot of books/games. Give us some informations about the Dr. Halsey's mission, appart from obvious reasons why no other Spartans are mentioned in the games and what they did during Halo 2.

As for actors, I'd really like to see alot of unkown actors. I really hate seeing a movie, watching a certain character and thinking: "Why, I saw him in that flick. Ohh, he was brilliant/bad in that one." Hugo Weaving in Lord of the Rings suffered from that. I couldn't stop seeing him as Agent Smith. Good actor, but I guess that everyone will say Smith when seeing him.

  • 08.29.2005 8:46 AM PDT