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Subject: Halo 2 Vista Map Editor

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Hey can anyone tell the basics of the Halo 2 Map Editor and how to start a new map from scratch. I don't have much experience with map editors so I really don't know what to do with the Halo 2 Vista Map Editor. The only map editor I've ever used was Forge in Halo 3. But I know that's way different than a real map editor. Anyways, I would really appreciate it if someone could tell me how to get started with a blank map made from scratch and how to play objects and scenery on that blank map. Thanks for your time!

  • 07.03.2010 11:46 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Here is a video tut:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2701445218287348647#

  • 07.03.2010 2:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
Here is a video tut:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2701445218287348647#


Cool thanks! lol I'm pretty good at Forge in Halo 3, but after watching that video, I have a lot to learn. Halo 3 Forge Skills barely help at all in this. Now I understand why PC gamers want a better HEK in Halo 3 PC.

  • 07.03.2010 4:06 PM PDT

Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: JacobGRocks
Here is a video tut:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2701445218287348647#


Cool thanks! lol I'm pretty good at Forge in Halo 3, but after watching that video, I have a lot to learn. Halo 3 Forge Skills barely help at all in this. Now I understand why PC gamers want a better HEK in Halo 3 PC.


Well that only took a year

  • 07.04.2010 6:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: General Heed
Now I understand why PC gamers want a better HEK in Halo 3 PC.


I'd settle for Halo 3 PC period.

  • 07.05.2010 3:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: LoneStaruner
Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: JacobGRocks
Here is a video tut:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2701445218287348647#


Cool thanks! lol I'm pretty good at Forge in Halo 3, but after watching that video, I have a lot to learn. Halo 3 Forge Skills barely help at all in this. Now I understand why PC gamers want a better HEK in Halo 3 PC.


Well that only took a year


lol yeah

  • 07.05.2010 4:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
Here is a video tut:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2701445218287348647#


Which version of 3DS Max should I use? I tried using the newest version, but it seems like a lot of things have changed in that version.

  • 08.01.2010 3:17 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Only use 6, 7, or 8. The h2v plugin is unsupported under 9 and up.

  • 08.02.2010 1:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
Only use 6, 7, or 8. The h2v plugin is unsupported under 9 and up.


Ok thanks! Do you know where I could get 6, 7, or 8? A demo version would be fine. I just want to try out 1 map for now and see how well I do before I decide to purchase one of those versions.

  • 08.02.2010 9:44 PM PDT

Grenades are like RAM, you can never have too much

>buying 3ds max
I lol'd hard... you must really be new to computers

although i cant advise you to obtain 3ds max by obtaining it "other" ways without breaking some kind of rule

try gmax, its entirely free or try this

[Edited on 08.03.2010 4:52 AM PDT]

  • 08.03.2010 4:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: stefen99
>buying 3ds max
I lol'd hard... you must really be new to computers

although i cant advise you to obtain 3ds max by obtaining it "other" ways without breaking some kind of rule

try gmax, its entirely free or try this


No I'm aware of those less than legal methods. Obviously I can't ask for links to those methods in this forum nor would I want to. Purchasing legal software has its benefits.

  • 08.03.2010 9:41 AM PDT

Grenades are like RAM, you can never have too much

normaly i would agree, but the cost of 3ds max is through the roof, but you should try gmax, it works with h2v and has most of the features of 3ds

  • 08.03.2010 9:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: stefen99
normaly i would agree, but the cost of 3ds max is through the roof, but you should try gmax, it works with h2v and has most of the features of 3ds


yeah, you're right about the price which is why I wanted a trial version just to try out. But i'll look into gmax. Thanks!

  • 08.03.2010 9:47 AM PDT

ok well, head over to monstrmoose.com for help and also, other 3D programs are not compatible (yes they can make .obj etc, but not a .ass file) with the h2v .Ass converter plug-in only FOR 3dsmax and the other programs will not be able to use it either. You would have to find someone to do it for you on their computer using 3dsmax. Then also i have found older 3dsmax for like $180.00 it just depends on where you are looking.....

  • 08.03.2010 3:49 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

GMAX does not work with h2v. You need 3ds max.

Also, I couldn't find 3ds Max through eBay used, only howto books.

[Edited on 08.03.2010 4:06 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2010 4:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
GMAX does not work with h2v. You need 3ds max.

Also, I couldn't find 3ds Max through eBay used, only howto books.


I found a link to the demo of version 8 on the halo2vistamaps.org website. At least I think it was that website. I've already installed the trial and so far everything seems to be working perfectly. Now I have 30 days to complete my map. The process is a lot more complicated that I thought. I'm barely 10% through. The map I'm trying to make is a large city map with several tall skyscrapers. I've tried to export the map without any texturing or any other stuff like that. It seems when I load that into Halo 2 Sapien, there's too many errors and the file is considered corrupt. I guess that's because I didn't add any texturing but if that's not the reason why, then please let me know if I'm doing something wrong. Thanks!

  • 08.03.2010 4:12 PM PDT
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http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?4355-A-Look-Beh ind-the-Scenes-at-H2V-Programming&p=105138&viewfull=1

As posted in the other topic, why have these selfish souls not released this?

  • 08.03.2010 6:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Moifugley
http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?4355-A-Look-Beh ind-the-Scenes-at-H2V-Programming&p=105138&viewfull=1

As posted in the other topic, why have these selfish souls not released this?


Wow, that looks amazing. That reminds, I'm not sure if any of you here would know about, but while looking through Sapien, I found references to a gametype called Headhunter in Halo 2 Vista. Headhunter is a gametype in Halo: Reach but that reference got me wondering if it was possible that there is a headhunter gametype hidden in Halo 2 Vista, much like the Silenced SMG's.

Here's a screenshot I took to prove it:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100702234305/halo/ima ges/2/2e/Halo2VistaHeadhuntergametype.jpg

[Edited on 08.03.2010 7:18 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2010 7:14 PM PDT

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  • 08.03.2010 7:43 PM PDT

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BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Interesting topic.
I asked Kornman00 about race and headhunter...

Posted by: Shock120
Do the gametype globals for Headhunter and Race still exist?

Posted by: Kornman00
The engine code for both of those doesn't exist in any of the shipping games (Xbox and Vista) IIRC. There may be tag definitions for them but if the code isn't there to use those definitions, it's all meaningless.

So, there's no point making anything for these gametypes, since the gametype itself is gone.

There are references of Headhunter in Halo 3, and references to Theater mode in Halo 1 and Halo 2 Xbox/Vista.

I could have benefited if they released Halo 2 Guerilla Radio, I already have ideas of what to make on it, but we will never know if they will release, they never said "never", but that leaves the question of when? (and how many halo games have to pass them by until they release) ='(

As for the silenced SMGs a H2V developer decided to bring them back, but the idiot broke the laser pointers on them, so he left a place holder for them, halomaps.org has the fixed versions.

[Edited on 08.05.2010 5:57 AM PDT]

  • 08.04.2010 4:54 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

If the H2V Map editor is too restrictive, get this. It is the CE HEK and is way better then the h2v editor. Even better, you can use gmax! :D

  • 08.04.2010 7:32 AM PDT

Grenades are like RAM, you can never have too much


Posted by: Shock120
As for the silenced SMGs a H2V developer decided to bring them back, but the idiot broke the laser pointers on them, so he left a place holder for them, halomaps.org has the fixed versions.


i think we all know that....*glances at General Heed*

EDIT: and i swear i used gmax in halo2.....oh well maybe it was CE, its been a while

[Edited on 08.04.2010 7:33 AM PDT]

  • 08.04.2010 7:33 AM PDT

Ok, first in order for it to work properly, you need to make sure you have the shaders named right on the materials in 3ds, and then you also need a sky part named +sky (that may be why it wont load into sapien) but also, Find the UNLOCKED Hek for h2v as hek for halo ce is for ce etc and not for H2V. if you go to the monstrmoose site you'll find more help there and stuffs...

trust me just grab the unlocked ver of H2V editor kit as the one given to us via the dvd is pretty much worthless...Not joking..

But glad to see there are some more map makers out there aside from the few i knowz and including my self lol... (but i have only contibuted so far a port of H1's wizard and soon a new custom map H2MT S3WAGE PLANT "the 3 is in there because LIVE does not allow the word Sewage as a map name...) lol

so good luck and hope to see ya around

Scrapy

  • 08.04.2010 11:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: XHN_SCRAPY
Ok, first in order for it to work properly, you need to make sure you have the shaders named right on the materials in 3ds, and then you also need a sky part named +sky (that may be why it wont load into sapien) but also, Find the UNLOCKED Hek for h2v as hek for halo ce is for ce etc and not for H2V. if you go to the monstrmoose site you'll find more help there and stuffs...

trust me just grab the unlocked ver of H2V editor kit as the one given to us via the dvd is pretty much worthless...Not joking..

But glad to see there are some more map makers out there aside from the few i knowz and including my self lol... (but i have only contibuted so far a port of H1's wizard and soon a new custom map H2MT S3WAGE PLANT "the 3 is in there because LIVE does not allow the word Sewage as a map name...) lol

so good luck and hope to see ya around

Scrapy


ok thanks.

  • 08.08.2010 11:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Moifugley
http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?4355-A-Look-Beh ind-the-Scenes-at-H2V-Programming&p=105138&viewfull=1

As posted in the other topic, why have these selfish souls not released this?


I don't understand exactly what that means.

  • 08.08.2010 11:49 PM PDT

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