- last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT
Hm...Before I begin, I'd like to say that I prefer my conversations sane. So far, I know Mr. B and I are debaters and not flamers, and I'd prefer it if everyone keeps it that way. As for Mr B,...please! I know you'e capable of reasoning and arguing, not flaming! This thread is quickly becoming a flame war...
Posted by: Mr B
Well, you obviously didnt understand the posts then.
I understood each post quite clearly, I believe.
Posted by: Mr B
My prefferred method of solving this, means that we submit reports of Time, Name, And action of the offending player.
With this information, whoever is dealing with it looks at the server log.
With the name and time, this person can easily find the bit they want. Now, in a log it details things. Its going to be blatently obvious if someone is acting up on one of those logs. If you dont beleive me I suggest you go and look at one of those logs.
I cannot alter these logs. Neither can anyone else. This is the reason its my prefferred method of dealing with these people.
I know about this, but my question is, who's going to do it? I'm pretty sure they aren't going to allocate precious employees (Bungie is more like Moneysoft than you may think) to preserve the integrity of a FREE online gaming service and a free online server. In other words, if its free, you either take it as it is or don't use their server at all.
Posted by: Mr B
Now me15ter, if you have a better way, Id like to hear it. And if you still dont understand what I explained, then i dont know what to do.
I don't have a better way. TBH, I just don't think there's a point in pursuing this. See the above reasons.
Posted by: Mr B
As for me being an admin, I suggested that last, and only as a final option. You seem to have gone to town on that. I realise more so than you how unlikely it is I (or anyone else) is made an admin, and the problems involved. However its one possible solution so im not going to leave it out.
"Realise more so than you..."? Let's please try not to turn this into a flame war. I know you're a better person than this! Snap out of it and let's debate, not flame!
One possible solution, but I personally believe that its so far out there that Bungie's not going to consider it even as a last resort; putting unknown volunteers at the controls.
Posted by: Mr B
So quit being part of the problem and start helping if possible. Sorry if that seems harsh, but Im tired and have little patience at the moment.
Like I said before, I know you're capable of debating and reasoning. That's a blatant flame. Besides, perhaps you should take a break and rest if you're a bit tired...
Posted by: Mr B
Oh yes, as for your blather about H2 and how they pay for it. I suggest you DO go back and read all the posts.
Blather? I was making an argument, not spewing out nonesnse.
Posted by: Mr B
I stated that I can always play on my old clanserver, which is still running. However, i dont think these people should be allowed to ruin games. Do you?
In my opinion, I couldn't care less if they ruined the game. I would just quit and move on to the next game. There are plenty of servers around, if one happens to have a rotten apple in it, then I'd just switch to the next game.
Posted by: Mr B
Its more of a question that microsoft (who run and therefore probably pay for them) is having its money wasted by these few ruining the servers for others. I wonder if you agree with that? I dont like lying down and letting people like that get away with it.
Like I said, I couldn't care less, and I doubt if Moneysoft cares either. It doesn't have to be a Bungie server to be a good game. Besides, why are you so concerned if M$ is losing money? Not your money, is it?
Posted by: Mr B
The main thing is, its so easy for this thing to work, it would take so little time and effort.
Its nothing like changing code for Halo2, or making changes to things. theres probably about 10 at most hardcore people messing it up for others.
Actually, it requires a group of people to monitor their email boxes for feedback about players. Besides, like you mentioned, they'd have to (1) sift through all the people who joined the server to (2) find exactly who the feedback is referring to, then (3) check up their stats from multiple games and finally ban them. They'd also need to set up a system for doing all of this.
You'd also need multiple players who are truly ticked off enough to (1) recall the player's exact name and (2) exactly when the player was on the server, (3) know exactly which server they were on, and (4) be coherent enough to write all this down in a email and fire it off to the servermasters.
All in all, my point is, though they may be a pain in the 455 to play with, they will always be there. No system is perfect, no system is failsafe, and you can't really do anything about it but learn to live with them.