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So simple minded. Why don't you think a little more about what your watching if you ever watch star wars again. That statement, o, nevermind, your hopeless.

  • 05.02.2004 3:59 PM PDT
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your question hurts my brain halo is awsome so it makes me want to choose that(plus this is a halo forum)
but then u got starwars and i am a huge fan of starwars(the originals the new ones are a disgrace to the starwars name) so if the new ones didnt exist it'd be a hard choice but now they do so starwars isnt as good anymore so i vote cov

i realy dont care who could actualy win but the plasma weapons were a good arguement

  • 05.02.2004 4:05 PM PDT
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Covenant technology (like it says in all of the books) has the better technology. The only reason we were even able to make the Mjolnir armor was because we studied some of their technology. Besides, The Covenant Forces outnumber the Human race by A LOT!

  • 05.02.2004 4:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lifeforce
Covenant technology (like it says in all of the books) has the better technology. The only reason we were even able to make the Mjolnir armor was because we studied some of their technology. Besides, The Covenant Forces outnumber the Human race by A LOT!


do u even know what we're talking about?

  • 05.02.2004 4:26 PM PDT
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In reply to "Master Bate".

You make valid points, but I question wether or not the Star Destroyers have the heavy artillery necessary to penetrate the Covenant ship's shields. In the movies all the weaponry that the Star Destroyers really had was Turbo-Laser cannons and Tractor Beams. Do you remeber in Return of the Jedi during the space battle, when the A-Wing crashed into the Super Star Destroyer and annihlated it? All the Covenant fighters have to do is disable the pods on top of the Star Destroyers then open fire with their plasma turrets on their capital ships.

About the Dark Troopers, the Brutes are faster and stronger than the MC. According to First Strike, a Brute can take one hell of a beating. So even if the Dark Troopers were able to acutally hit the Brutes, the Brutes would easily close the distance than procede to tear about the Dark Trooper.

Both Covenant and Empire were destroyed by an opposing force that was inferior to their own. So how about Rebels verus Halo's humans?

  • 05.02.2004 4:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Serpant

. Do you remeber in Return of the Jedi during the space battle, when the A-Wing crashed into the Super Star Destroyer and annihlated it? ?


that only hapens cause they knock out its bridge shield so the awing killing it was just cause of damage delt by othe capital ships

[Edited on 5/2/2004 4:40:58 PM]

  • 05.02.2004 4:40 PM PDT
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I have seen an extensive debate on another forum concerning this topic specifically. The end conclusion was that the GE had superior ships but inferior ground troopers. GE ships are insanely over-powered, their shields can take anything that the Covvies can dish out. Also, the GE has many times more ships than the Covvies. In the end, covvies can hold their own, but the GE will crush them.

Also, GE cruiser weapons (turbo-lasers) have similar power to that of a covvie plasma turret. That being said, A BIG covvie cruiser has 6 plasma turrets, which each take about 30 seconds to charge and shoot. A GE battlecruiser has about 30 (probably ALOT more) which can fire like 1/1-2 seconds. Essentially, GE firepower is far greater than that of the Covvies.

[Edited on 5/2/2004 4:57:35 PM]

  • 05.02.2004 4:49 PM PDT
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The Galactic Empire is ironically composed of humans. Not to mention they use the force. It really just does not work unless you are on some special sort of drug.

  • 05.02.2004 4:54 PM PDT
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????????
Are you racist against humans?

  • 05.03.2004 4:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lifeforce
Covenant technology (like it says in all of the books) has the better technology. The only reason we were even able to make the Mjolnir armor was because we studied some of their technology. Besides, The Covenant Forces outnumber the Human race by A LOT!
Let me tell you that the empire has a galaxy under its control. The convenant has a PART of the Orion Wing.

Also, are you telling me that the books saids that Covenant technology was better than Galactic Empire technology? You must be illiterate.

Lastly, the empire has fleets numbered in the millions, and troops numbered in the trillions.

The covenant clearly don't have fleets numbered in the millions, or else earth would been attacked with around 600,000 cruisers instead of 600.

Btw, I don't think you know star wars, nor that much of halo.

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Posted by: CaptainMilky
So simple minded. Why don't you think a little more about what your watching if you ever watch star wars again. That statement, o, nevermind, your hopeless.


Uh, no. I'm not some -blam!- simple minded -blam!- who dislikes Star Wars because its special effects suck nowadays. The original 3 movies were pretty good, in fact, but its the story that kills me. "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." It better be part of Lucas's master plan to reveal that the humans in the Star Wars Galaxy are in fact the Forerunner! Anyways, I'm just saying that maybe the movie was revolutionary, but if you've read sci-fi books from before Star Wars, they actually had science and were somewhat believable, whereas Star Wars wasn't at all. It's a fantasy in disguise. Anyways, I liked the movies but some people give the series way too much credit.

  • 05.03.2004 4:59 PM PDT
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off topic.

  • 05.03.2004 5:21 PM PDT
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2 different worlds.......it's hard to compare....

Plasma tears through anything, so convenat would win on ground...

as for in space, i dunno it would be a pretty cool battle between forces but im pretty sure the star wars fans would win there

  • 05.03.2004 6:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Terran Grunt
but if you've read sci-fi books from before Star Wars, they actually had science and were somewhat believable, whereas Star Wars wasn't at all. It's a fantasy in disguise. Anyways, I liked the movies but some people give the series way too much credit.


First off, Star Wars is very believable. Lightsabers may seem like some distant un-attainable technology. Tell you the truth? You could build one today. Not the same as in the movies, but you could. Secondly, the force. The force is simply the struggles we all undergo each and every day. The battle to choose what we know as right and what we know as wrong. Fantasy in disguise?? HAH! Who cares??

  • 05.03.2004 6:05 PM PDT
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well it depends. whose side would MC fight on?

  • 05.03.2004 6:21 PM PDT
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Remember the Death Star has that huge laser thingy. Did that destroy worlds or someting?

i say that Star Wars guys would win.
People know this and they jusy vote covenant because thats what they want to win.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 6:29:33 PM]

  • 05.03.2004 6:28 PM PDT
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The empire was destroyed by a single jedi
Without any MJOLNIR armor or anything just a jedi with an X-wing

The Covenant got kicked to the curb by Master Chief and the flood not including the marines

The covenant have a way better chance at winning then the Empire

  • 05.03.2004 6:39 PM PDT
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The Death Star might destroy planets but so the Covenant if you haven't read TFoR, The Flood, or FS then you don't know that the convenant use their plasme turrets to turn planets into glass.

besidesStar Wars is rated PG whild Halo is rated M

Meaning that the Star Wars people are just plain wusses

  • 05.03.2004 6:43 PM PDT
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To shade delmort

The empire was never destroyed. There were still Thrawn, Dala, Palleon....

It's command of power was smashed by the REBEL fleet with help from luke skywalker, and han. Thus, it wasn't a single jedi.

Damn, you have the worst reasons for why the covenant would win. Because of this guy could do that, and they lost cuz of this.

I am talking about technical and logic reasons.

Btw, if you don't know anything about star wars then don't post.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 6:47:02 PM]

  • 05.03.2004 6:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shade Delmort
The Death Star might destroy planets but so the Covenant if you haven't read TFoR, The Flood, or FS then you don't know that the convenant use their plasme turrets to turn planets into glass.

besides Star Wars is rated PG whild Halo is rated M

Meaning that the Star Wars people are just plain wusses


The covenant is weak compared to event the REBEL fleet, if you know anything about the rebel fleet.

A single star destroyer can glass a planet.

Your other points are plain fanboyism.

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Posted by: Shade Delmort
The empire was destroyed by a single jedi
Without any MJOLNIR armor or anything just a jedi with an X-wing

The Covenant got kicked to the curb by Master Chief and the flood not including the marines

The covenant have a way better chance at winning then the Empire



Tthe Empire's demise does not tie into this what so ever. Read it. AT THEIR HEIGHT. Not at their demise. So that voids your unthoughtful statement. It's really a no brainer. The Galactic Empire would beat those split-chin squid-head sons of -blam!-es into submission.

  • 05.03.2004 6:54 PM PDT
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Damn exactly what I wanted to say, but then I would sound too fanboyish. You are braver.

  • 05.03.2004 6:56 PM PDT
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One thing about Turbolasers Vs. Plasma turrets: Turbolasers have an output thats only capable of releasing 2-3 times as much power as typical lasers. I don't know how much that is, but it probably isn't a HUGE amount. Also, the damage is quite focused, as compared to plasma, which causes massive amounts of damge over a huge area.

But the GE had a weapon capable of destroying an entire solar system (the Sun crusher), It was slightly larger than a normal fighter, it was also imperviouse to all laser blasts because of its armor. I beleive it would also be effective agaisnt plasma, but it was destroyed.

I was going to bring up glassing, but the GE had the Death Star, making the topig pretty much irrelevant. I mean, it does a better job faster using fewer ships, albiet a huge one.

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Posted by: bri_guy
One thing about Turbolasers Vs. Plasma turrets: Turbolasers have an output thats only capable of releasing 2-3 times as much power as typical lasers. I don't know how much that is, but it probably isn't a HUGE amount. Also, the damage is quite focused, as compared to plasma, which causes massive amounts of damge over a huge area.

But the GE had a weapon capable of destroying an entire solar system (the Sun crusher), It was slightly larger than a normal fighter, it was also imperviouse to all laser blasts because of its armor. I beleive it would also be effective agaisnt plasma, but it was destroyed.

I was going to bring up glassing, but the GE had the Death Star, making the topig pretty much irrelevant. I mean, it does a better job faster using fewer ships, albiet a huge one.


Star destroyers could glass planets alone.

Besides when the empire found out that ground troops were loosing heavily then they would probably upgrade (actually degrade) stormtroopers to old republic commandoes, whch had psersonal shields. By the way, empire could make more of the shielded droids.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 7:03:36 PM]

  • 05.03.2004 7:02 PM PDT
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The Galactic Empire simply has too many ships and ground troops. On top of that they have more advantages in technology. You can make any arguement you want, but it looks bleak for the little guys....(grunts, also referring to covenant =))

[Edited on 5/3/2004 7:06:50 PM]

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