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Subject: So are you just letting halo die?
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That's the question .. are you letting halo die or will you make an anti-hack ?

There are so many hacks for halo at the moment, if you don't fix it now halo will be death in a few months. Especialy now someone made a working aimbot.

And if you think halo already is death then you are stupid ... Cal maybe is comming back, Tcln is back ... but the hacks are getting to bad. Make an inti-hack NOW.


And if you want I can get LOTS of people to post here that they also want an antihack. And don't make me list the current hacks.

  • 08.26.2005 2:59 PM PDT
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All they need to do is include punkbuster into halo. It pretty much prevents you from joining a server with punkbuster enabled if you have edited any of the files in the installation folder. People who make modded servers can disable punkbuster so they can continue to use mods for fun and good purposes.

  • 08.26.2005 5:11 PM PDT
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If you don't like the server, find another. There are many servers out there. An anti hack isn't really necesary, I have never seen a hacker.

  • 08.26.2005 7:56 PM PDT
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all you have to do is find a reliable set of servers you regularly go to and continue with those. Personally I hardly venture outside of my clan's own DS. there's no reason to go out looking and find a bunch of annoying modded games & hackers. Halo PC is maybe just dead in the mainstream, but there will ALWAYS be people in small groups, who come back time & time again to play with people they know, and people they know play well, and in the end have fun. SO get yourself a reliable group of gaming buddies on Halo PC, and get a server going, it's not that hard.

  • 08.26.2005 8:00 PM PDT
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Man, they're barely even fixing the hackers and modders in Halo 2. I doubt they're gonna spend a lot of time fixing Halo PC. But I think it would be up to Gearbox to fix it since they did the port right?

  • 08.27.2005 4:03 AM PDT
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I play at klanwars.com , and every day we get a few clan matches. And in those matches people hack to -blam!-. I'm not talking about your little pub games. I'm talking about leagues.

Most used hacks:

- Aimbot
- Glass walls
- Wireframe
- Dev Camera
- Print screening
- ...

  • 08.27.2005 4:31 AM PDT
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Chewy Gumball wrote:

If you don't like the server, find another. There are many servers out there. An anti hack isn't really necesary, I have never seen a hacker.


I'm not sure, but i think i have. Oh, I've been in games where i know there was a Hack running, but it was an accorss the board mod, like all players getting the ability to super jump. But what i'm talking about is the rare occasion when i play and...somethings off.

There are three types that I'm pretty sure I've run across. the first is quite possibly an aimbot. While playing a game in CE with sniper rifles, i dodged a long range shot after I'd been hit once. I could have sworn that, as the bullet came towards me, i saw the "stream" it left in it's wake twist. It wasn't a straight line, but an arc, as if something was correcting it for the opponent.

Other times though, I'm more certain. i've run over people in certain games who take no damage. Certainly, they can die if you shoot them or mellee them in the back of the head, but I get no "squish when i ram them with a car or ghost. One such in particular happened in a game on Sidewinder. While inside the base, i ran over someone three times and pushed him from the front of the base to the back before my cannons finished him off (trying to clear the room so i could dismount and get the flag so before you start flaming, it wasn't a malicious spawn kill). Thing is, it was the cannons that killed him, not the ghosts wide front end slamming into him and pushing him across a good portion of map space. he wasn't glitched (a sort of non existent person while he's in the process of spawning and unable to fight back). in fact, if I hadn't had OS to begin with, his nade and rifle shots would have put me down.

The last one, I'm almost certain of. In another game of CTF which ranged over several maps, I came across one character that seemed immune to weapons. He could be killed, but it took indordinate effort on my part. In one instance, i unloaded half a clip of pistol rounds into this person, and three shotgun hits at close range. i know these rounds hit because my ping was low and I got the tell tail "ding" after each strike. I left the server in disgust, looking back as I did only to remember that i had lowered this person's shields several times, but only with help had I ever actually killed him (help being a passing warthog gunner or a heavy wep).

I think hackers do exist in Halo PC. I think most of them are smart enough not to flaunt their enhancments, but it's a disturbing trend that the cheater mod community is gaining steam in our servers.

This needs investigating.

  • 08.27.2005 7:49 AM PDT
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As for a patch for HaloPC regarding cheating, Gearbox was no longer responsible for the support of HaloPC upon HaloCE's release. If you are looking for a patch for HaloPC, you're knocking on the wrong door. Head over to Bungie.net and send Bungie an email, or post on their message boards.

Current most used hacks:

- Glasswalls
- Multihack ( wireframe !!! )
- Dev. Camera
- ( 3rd person hack / FOV hack )
- Print screening
- WORKING aimbot (at the moment not many people have it, but I don't think it will take a long time before everyone can get their hands on it)
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If you want I can try to get a copy of these hacks and send them to you so you can make the anti-hack faster.

  • 08.27.2005 1:44 PM PDT
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Yeah, I've been in a couple of games where people seemed to "see" me when they shouldn't have been able to. I was atributing it to some way they had their setting set up or ping. in hindsight, I may have been a victim of wireframe...

  • 08.27.2005 8:22 PM PDT
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How can you have a aimbot when there so much lagg you have to lead your shot so much?

  • 08.27.2005 8:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Skullbash
Man, they're barely even fixing the hackers and modders in Halo 2. I doubt they're gonna spend a lot of time fixing Halo PC. But I think it would be up to Gearbox to fix it since they did the port right?



Oh, and you know this first hand? You must -blam!- work at Bungie, I guess, since you say that they are barely doing anything.Let's see what they have done.1.They have made numerous fixes for the game.2.They made a map pack with kickass maps. and 3.They pretty much got rid of modders all together. Bungie has worked their asses off to fix Halo 2, and there are barely any modders anymore. So get your facts straight next time before you say -blam!-.

  • 08.27.2005 10:58 PM PDT
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MuDvAyNe you do realize you are talking about Halo 2 for xbox don't you? I fail to see how that relates to Halo for Pc.

  • 08.27.2005 11:26 PM PDT
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Some people already tried to make an anti-hack for halo. But you have to download that program yourself ... and hackers won't do that ... That's why we need an 1.08 update to stop the cheating.

Oh and if you want to know how they hack you: http://www.halostats.com/buster/hacks.html

come on admins ... where are you ?

  • 08.28.2005 4:32 AM PDT
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There are no hacks! The only way someone could "hack" is if they are the host in that case you could also "hack" since your running off there server. You donjt upload stuff like in CS.

  • 08.28.2005 11:37 AM PDT
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[quote]Posted by: Mr MA5B
All they need to do is include punkbuster into halo.quote]

nope wrong punk buster is useless trust me i play americas army and theres a pb update every few mounths and still loads of hackers pb sucks

  • 08.29.2005 1:19 AM PDT
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There are no hacks! The only way someone could "hack" is if they are the host in that case you could also "hack" since your running off there server. You donjt upload stuff like in CS.

Very well, i'll conceed that there are no hackers. They're MODDERS. hit the link (I'll make it a link at the bottom of the post as it is only an educational link that shows hacks in use, not how to make or find them. But it was here for a while before you posted.) supplied in this thread before you continue spouting the same refrain. people are using parts of the system to cheat in game; there is a working aimbot for halo PC, there are wireframe hacks that allow people to see through walls to gain strategic advantage over the opposition. Why do you continue to deny this when the evidence is staring you in the face?

TimeSpitter, you have said in several threads that there are no hackers, that there can be no hackers in Halo PC. Where are you basing this information? I want hard facts before I hear you say it again. And how do you refute the pictures of people using several such "mods" in game.

http://www.halostats.com/buster/hacks.html


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  • 08.29.2005 2:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: RaNg3R05
Posted by: Mr MA5B
All they need to do is include punkbuster into halo


nope wrong punk buster is useless trust me i play americas army and theres a pb update every few mounths and still loads of hackers pb sucks

at least punkbuster has a vote-kick system, which is a big step up from the useless auto-ban.

[Edited on 8/29/2005]

  • 08.29.2005 11:16 PM PDT
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With that link you prove my point. Didnt you notice how all of those "hacks" are just bitmap swap outs? Those can work on other people server yet things like aim bot and invincibility can not. Tnose can only be used on your own server but even then other people have acses to it to. Ohh and thanks MR.B for your lil comment ohh and shishka I beet your black list system. Im smurf22 I got black listed about a month ago Im not sure if mrb kept the PM I sent him.

  • 08.30.2005 7:05 PM PDT
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WOW your retarded timesplitter.....There are aimbots, devcams, wireframes, bluewalls, speedhacks.....You certainly haven't played in leagues of any kind nub so stfu.....For us people who actually took the game seriously actually matched against nubs who used some of those......You certainly don't know anything about halo pc hacks....Because there is about 9 that i guess slipped right underneath your nub nose........Join www.klanwars.com and get on a team and have a kw match with the top 20 team and i guaruntee you that you will use the word "OMG HACKER HOW DID YOU DO THAT" throughout the whole game..........

  • 09.13.2005 4:12 PM PDT
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First off DuBZLE be more polite of -blam!- off. second if a guy just don`t know about hacks or didn`t notice them it`s not his fault...the only 2 i noticed were an aimbot jerk and a guy with wireframe walls and 3rd learn basic writing in english thanks.

  • 09.13.2005 6:08 PM PDT
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With that link you prove my point
No. i didn't. And neither have you as yet. yes i notice that the hacks, all of them old ones, are bitmaps. But it doesn't deny the advantage a player gains from using them.

As for everyone saying that because halo PC is a server based game and therefore cannot be hacked...check out Xbox. Xbox modders have been messing up H2 so bad that Bungie has all but dropped PC support to combat the problem. And they'll still losing. If your PC sends data to the server daying that you've grabbed a health when you've actually only hit the "H" button on yur computer, that's near invincibility. Set it up so that every time your PC is sent a "hit" from a bullet to do the same thing (i.e. when you get hit, you get OS) then whats to stop the server from accepting this data? hacks do one of two things (regularly) for a server based game like this. 1. they give you a representation of information you are not privy to like seeing through walls or camera control. 2. they lie to the server about what your character has in his hand, what his stats are, or how much ammo he had in that rocket launcher. fi you can prove those things are impossible, by all means do so. if not, stop hollaring that there are no hacks.

Halo PC has been out for 2 years almost. bad netcode or not, nothing stops a determined hacker when they set their mind to something and have that much time to play with a program. the goal for these people isn't to play the game, it's to play WITH the game.

Argue all you want; that fact doesn't change.

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  • 09.13.2005 7:19 PM PDT
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http://files.filefront.com/gghalowmv/;4127314;;/fileinfo.html

halos aimbot, its already getting spread around to tons of losers who try to be the best, u bungie people have to help now or u might as well take halopc off ur gamelist.....

  • 09.13.2005 7:55 PM PDT
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plese, only posat here if u kno what ur talking about...bungi serioulsly needs to make an update of some sort for anti hacks...i never thogught it would come to this,...but were desperate we need an update, an anti hack im in a top 20 -blam!- on kw.com and hacks are everywhare r league had to close down today cuz of a new aimbot that pb dont even pick up...this is bad, i mean bad. for all the ppl in leagues here u kno what im talking about. somethin needs to be done soon, very very soon. we have links on our fourms for this aimbot and its bad...i wouldnet be suprizzed if by the end of the month haf the halo comunity will have access to it. some thin needs o be done. every1 at kw needs ur help...not jus kw but halo.

  • 09.13.2005 8:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: MaNiC
...r league had to close down today cuz of a new aimbot that pb dont even pick up...this is bad, i mean bad...

Hacking is a two-way street. Punkbuster can just get an update so that it recognizes the aimbot and forces you to -blam!- off if you have it.

  • 09.13.2005 9:18 PM PDT

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