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Subject: h2v "you picked a hell of a day to join up"

halo 2 is starting to look better and better every time i play, more and more people are online, mods keep getting better and more fun, recently h2v modders have found a way to make custom vehicles and pretty soon we are going to have custom halo reach weapons. and as for the maps right now i'm finishing up my first map: http://s769.photobucket.com/albums/xx336/StatutorytrOy/?actio n=view&current=IMG_0059.jpg#!oZZ1QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2F s769.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx336%2FStatutorytrOy%2F%3Fac tion%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_0064.jpg%26 (first 6 up to date, textures are place holders) and once i do i'm joining a team of really experienced map makers who are pooling their talents to make the halo reach coag. if you are considering buying halo 2 you picked a hell of a day to join up.

  • 07.08.2010 10:06 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Here is a tip: Make custom edition maps, as custom edition has a better SDK. Not just that, but more people will download them.

Or just make CS maps or cod4 maps, as the mod sdk is even better, and cod lets you download full mods right from the server.

(inb4h2vsux)

  • 07.08.2010 10:15 AM PDT
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Something smells fishy...

if you are considering buying halo 2 you picked a hell of a day to join up.

Don't buy Halo 2 Vista. It is a poorly constructed PC game.

It will surely be a hell of a day when you buy Halo 2 Vista and experience all of its flaws.

  • 07.08.2010 10:41 AM PDT

i like some of the custom vehicles but in bone yard the only vehicles there are ones already in halo 2, i already had to cut out a bunch of detail out of my map and if i try to make it work in the halo ce engine it will be bare bones and the only thing to show for it will be different bipeds, halo 2 has a great light compiler and it has boarding which is something that really balances the game play on this map. halo 2 vista has problems yes but if you really want high quality custom maps, and balanced game play stick with halo 2. the biggest problems about halo 2 are being addressed right now, such as the servers not registering, we are trying to figure out if we can make our own patch.

  • 07.08.2010 11:09 AM PDT
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Custom vehicles eh? then why hasn't any -blam!- done anything?
This doesn't interest anyone, all he's done is changed the skin, and modified the weapon, which is the same thing everyone else can do.

I don't see any zteam prick or any dumb-blam!- from "HALO 1" jumping to H2V, just for this.
You can't make your own patch, go ahead and try it, but know this you cannot RESIGN a -Blam!-itty- microsuck product.

Also, they are not h2v modders.

One more thing. Learn to URL link.

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  • 07.08.2010 2:18 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

If you want higher quality custom maps, and awesome mods and gameplay, then stick to CoD4, Battlefield 2, CS or any valve game, or Halo Custom edition.

Halo Custom edition also has a lot more custom map editing tools, more then halo 2 pc. And they are higher quality too. It's why there are more Custom edition maps then h2v maps. Look at this for example. Unlike h2v, custom edition is custom.
I haven't heard of a fanmade fix to the server list, other then keeping h2v open 24/7 and alt-tabbing.

[Edited on 07.08.2010 2:29 PM PDT]

  • 07.08.2010 2:21 PM PDT

Grenades are like RAM, you can never have too much

Posted by: Moifugley
Custom vehicles eh? then why hasn't any -blam!- done anything?
This doesn't interest anyone, all he's done is changed the skin, and modified the weapon, which is the same thing everyone else can do.

I don't see any zteam prick or any dumb-blam!- from "HALO 1" jumping to H2V, just for this.
You can't make your own patch, go ahead and try it, but know this you cannot RESIGN a -Blam!-itty- microsuck product.

Also, they are not h2v modders.

One more thing. Learn to URL link.

damn, i was going to say that
its not "recently" it was known since the games release with the sdk, however its so terrible it just hasnt been done, i knew kills alone since he started mapping and i have to say hes the only person who has any skill whatsoever with custom tags, and i really suggest getting hl2dm or css to make maps if you havent learned already, halo2 vista is impossible without knowing how to use the ut3 sdk or source sdk

  • 07.09.2010 7:33 AM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Sorry to gang up on you StatutoryTrOy but it's hard to be enthusiastic about H2V with all the outstanding problems. Community patches would be cool, but I doubt much can be done about not being able to pull a server list.

  • 07.09.2010 6:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: n357
Sorry to gang up on you StatutoryTrOy but it's hard to be enthusiastic about H2V with all the outstanding problems. Community patches would be cool, but I doubt much can be done about not being able to pull a server list.
StatutoryTrOy, needs to learn how to format paragraphs, and link urls.

He is the OP, therefore he should accept criticism, even though he's like a 11 year old thinking people with servers are so magical they can fix h2v, lol.

  • 07.10.2010 4:41 AM PDT

Grenades are like RAM, you can never have too much

Posted by: Moifugley
Posted by: n357
Sorry to gang up on you StatutoryTrOy but it's hard to be enthusiastic about H2V with all the outstanding problems. Community patches would be cool, but I doubt much can be done about not being able to pull a server list.
StatutoryTrOy, needs to learn how to format paragraphs, and link urls.

He is the OP, therefore he should accept criticism, even though he's like a 11 year old thinking people with servers are so magical they can fix h2v, lol.

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  • 07.11.2010 9:38 AM PDT

no need to start flaming people, btw we now have a working hornet, and longsword fighter with trip mines and maybe ai on the way.

  • 07.14.2010 7:10 AM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

You could port them back to HCE where the majority of users can actually run the game and even play online.

  • 07.16.2010 10:42 PM PDT

Pass the controller bro


Posted by: n357
You could port them back to HCE where the majority of users can actually run the game and even play online.

HCE already has that stuff, so no one would actually appreciate it. Not that CE isn't a better choice for modding Halo which it is, but I'm interested in how these are going to turn out on an updated engine, with better textures and lighting (if these guys are even going to go that far with the mod to take note of these advantages)

Then again the player base that can live with all the -blam!- involved with H2v is small, but at least they will experience something fresh.

OP, may I suggest checking out Crysis, just purely for modding? It's capable of some epic stuff. I think someone or some people had made lightsabers and a Naboo Fighter from Star Wars, lol.

Now longswords, think about it.

  • 07.16.2010 11:43 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Or cod 4. Or hl2. Or Unreal Tournament.
More people would play your mods if you modded another game. Since you can mod h2v, you can easily mod the other games, but with far more control.

  • 07.17.2010 7:13 AM PDT

i was hoping some of you halo ce fan boys would flame me about how the server list doesn't pop up, because it is fixed. check it out yourself. now people have been telling me how much better halo ce is compared to halo 2, so before i decided to say anything i got halo ce, if you think halo 2 is dead look at your own side of the fence halo ce has the same amount of people, and they are mostly playing default maps or the most boring map ever aka extinction, the only maps on halo ce worth playing are firefight portent and h3 sandtrap, other than that the map makers hold on to the good stuff for themselves or it doesn't exist. on halo 2 we don't need to have that piece of %#@! xfire because we have live which most people in 2010 do, and i have yet to see a hornet in game, i know ruinas has one but you need dev mode for that, which i have but it won't let me use the cheat_all_vehicles command because i downloaded the latest update. now the only things halo ce has over us is ai hud mods and bipeds hud mods and bipeds are things we need, adn we probably will have in the future, same for ai but all of the firefight maps in halo ce suck anyway except for portent, now what does halo 2 have over halo ce? you might ask, well a lot of things, we can hold much more polygons than halo ce can, more polys=better looking maps, we have downloading in game so you don't have to go onto a third party site just to get a map people are playing, and we have a better community, many great maps are released every month, unlike halo ce where only the map makers have fun.

  • 07.17.2010 7:32 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
i was hoping some of you halo ce fan boys would flame me about how the server list doesn't pop up, because it is fixed. check it out yourself.

now people have been telling me how much better halo ce is compared to halo 2, so before i decided to say anything i got halo ce, if you think halo 2 is dead look at your own side of the fence

halo ce has the same amount of people, and they are mostly playing default maps or the most boring map ever aka extinction,

the only maps on halo ce worth playing are firefight portent and h3 sandtrap, other than that the map makers hold on to the good stuff for themselves or it doesn't exist.

on halo 2 we don't need to have that piece of %#@! xfire because we have live which most people in 2010 do, and i have yet to see a hornet in game,

i know ruinas has one but you need dev mode for that, which i have but it won't let me use the cheat_all_vehicles command because i downloaded the latest update.

now the only things halo ce has over us is ai hud mods and bipeds hud mods and bipeds are things we need, adn we probably will have in the future, same for ai but all of the firefight maps in halo ce suck anyway except for portent, now what does halo 2 have over halo ce?

you might ask, well a lot of things, we can hold much more polygons than halo ce can, more polys=better looking maps, we have downloading in game so you don't have to go onto a third party site just to get a map people are playing, and we have a better community, many great maps are released every month, unlike halo ce where only the map makers have fun.


OK. First off, i spaced out your post so it isn't a pain to read.

Now, onto the reply:

First off, the list is Not Fixed! I tried to pull up the list and it failed.

Xfire is way better then GFWL. Xfire is a server browser, IM program, and video recorder. Can GFWL do all that?

How is Custom edition the "same amount"? Switch to version 1.00 for around 1500 players! And halo PC has 600-700 on at once! Does halo 2 pc have those numbers?

There is a lot of "Good Stuff" for custom edition. You just aren't finding it.

Hornets are in game in Custom edition. You can even make one with hornets, if you want. Not to mention, for the h2v hornet mod to work, you need to modify a few h2v files. Halo PC, however, requires no modding.

Halo CE has far more then h2v ever will. And it has a bigger community too!

Now what does halo 2 have over ce? Only thing i can think of is no lead. And that's it. H2V has far more bugs then custom edition, and a far smaller community too. The mouse control is broken, so it stutters when you move it. The controller functions properly though and gives you a FREE AIMBOT as well!

Overall, Halo 2 PC is not as good as Custom Edition. And there are also far more moddable games then h2pc as well.

[Edited on 07.17.2010 8:16 AM PDT]

  • 07.17.2010 8:15 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
i was hoping some of you halo ce fan boys would flame me about how the server list doesn't pop up, because it is fixed.

Did they fix the asston of other problems with the game? No? Then it still sucks.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
now people have been telling me how much better halo ce is compared to halo 2, so before i decided to say anything i got halo ce, if you think halo 2 is dead look at your own side of the fence halo ce has the same amount of people, and they are mostly playing default maps or the most boring map ever aka extinction, the only maps on halo ce worth playing are firefight portent and h3 sandtrap, other than that the map makers hold on to the good stuff for themselves or it doesn't exist.

H2V isn't a split game. so when you're looking at the lobby, that's exactly how active it is. Given that Custom Edition has that many players, have you fired up vanilla HPC at all? Significantly more players than Halo 2 Vista, for a reason.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
on halo 2 we don't need to have that piece of %#@! xfire

Stop right there and go back to your console, kid. You're stupid beyond words if you think GfWL is better than Xfire.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
what does halo 2 have over halo ce? you might ask,

No, I'm not. I already know. Noobsauce gameplay. But let's see.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
well a lot of things, we can hold much more polygons than halo ce can, more polys=better looking maps

LOL at this. H2V's graphic optimization is so much worse than HPC it's ridiculous.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
we have downloading in game so you don't have to go onto a third party site just to get a map people are playing,

So? The game still sucks, therefore, all the maps made for it will suck. But tell you what, when you guys make something better than Yoyorast, you can talk.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
and we have a better community,

This statement is so false there's really no reason to address it.

  • 07.17.2010 9:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: DusK
So? The game still sucks, therefore, all the maps made for it will suck. But tell you what, when you guys make something better than Yoyorast, you can talk.
I don't think that got very far. Yoyorast for H2V is crap too.
"A near exact remake of the map Yoyorast Island from Halo CE". pathetic.



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  • 07.17.2010 9:52 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
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50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Almost every halo 2 pc map looks like crap. All they are are the same weapons and vehicles as the stock maps..with the same texture spread out all around the map. Doing things like that make your maps look like early HL1 custom maps. The textures are very bland on this for example.

For comparison, this looks better. And it is a halo 1 map!

[Edited on 07.17.2010 12:56 PM PDT]

  • 07.17.2010 12:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: JacobGRocks
For comparison, this looks better. And it is a halo 1 map!
Isn't that because zteam is a tag ripping group, and they rip tags from Halo 3 itself.
I think that invalidates this awesome map, but I there are plenty of maps that don't use zteam.

  • 07.17.2010 1:36 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Yep. Custom edition is full of good maps too. Maps that don't have the texture repeated and streched like a n64 game.

  • 07.17.2010 1:46 PM PDT

"Did they fix the asston of other problems with the game? No? Then it still sucks."

by other i assume you are referring mostly to the aim bot that is built into the game, well those problems will be fixed just like the some of the physics problems in halo ce.


"H2V isn't a split game. so when you're looking at the lobby, that's exactly how active it is. Given that Custom Edition has that many players, have you fired up vanilla HPC at all? Significantly more players than Halo 2 Vista, for a reason."

the fact that you count those misguided, out of touch, out of the 21st century players, who still play halo 1 as part of your community, takes away from any propriety you have left after you decided to defend a 1900s game.


"Stop right there and go back to your console, kid. You're stupid beyond words if you think GfWL is better than Xfire."

no you stop right there, xfire has gone downhill since its last few updates, its a program that tries to make up for the old age of halo ce, as for live if you aren't on sonys network you are on xbox/windows live or off the grid, sorry. well at least you had enough sense to remove the part you originally posted about its capability of video recording.


"LOL at this. H2V's graphic optimization is so much worse than HPC it's ridiculous."

perhaps, but halo 2 has the capability to far surpass anything that halo ce can, the lighting system is far better, the number of polys is higher and the max file size is bigger, eat your heart out.


"So? The game still sucks, therefore, all the maps made for it will suck. But tell you what, when you guys make something better than Yoyorast, you can talk"

several of the maps from halo ce have been remade for halo 2, but i don't particularly care for them, there are more maps ported to halo ce from halo 2 than there are from halo ce to halo 2, the reason isn't there aren't enough map makers, its because halo 2 maps have much better gameplay, and are visually superior.

as for halo 2 not having a better community, you are wrong, we halo 2 map makers always share our resources, knowledge, and offer assistance to the newer map makers, we also release several new maps every month, everyone here is very friendly, and we all have a good time.

well that was fun.

update: we can now modify the hud and people are in the process of creating tags that will help make possible more custom content.

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  • 07.17.2010 7:05 PM PDT
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Remove the aimbot and I will be happy.

  • 07.17.2010 8:07 PM PDT
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Something smells fishy...

by other i assume you are referring mostly to the aim bot that is built into the game, well those problems will be fixed just like the some of the physics problems in halo ce.

You're going to make a fix for H2V? I highly doubt you will succeed in making a fix independently.

the fact that you count those misguided, out of touch, out of the 21st century players, who still play halo 1 as part of your community, takes away from any propriety you have left after you decided to defend a 1900s game.

Halo Combat Evolved may be a bit dated but it continues to make H2V look bad. H2V has many issues that make it almost unplayable. Halo Combat Evolved, on the other hand, doesn't have problems that need to be fixed immediately.

  • 07.18.2010 5:53 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

by other i assume you are referring mostly to the aim bot that is built into the game, well those problems will be fixed just like the some of the physics problems in halo ce.

The join lag, the server list, the mouse lag, the render issue, the crashing, "Live gaming on Windows failed to initialize", and more. Those aren't fixed.


the fact that you count those misguided, out of touch, out of the 21st century players, who still play halo 1 as part of your community, takes away from any propriety you have left after you decided to defend a 1900s game.

People don't play games because of how old they are. They play them if they are good. Note how halo CE is #25 on xfire as of the time this was posted. Halo 2 is way lower on the list, at #248. 2,246 and counting are playing it. H2V only has 199, with 50 on at once. And the reason for that is H2V is buggier then Custom Edition.

no you stop right there, xfire has gone downhill since its last few updates, its a program that tries to make up for the old age of halo ce, as for live if you aren't on sonys network you are on xbox/windows live or off the grid, sorry. well at least you had enough sense to remove the part you originally posted about its capability of video recording.

LOL! Not all networks are centralized like PSN or XBL. CoD4, Halo CE, Battlefield, and most PC games use their own server lists. Many newer PC games also use another network you forgot to mention: Steam!


perhaps, but halo 2 has the capability to far surpass anything that halo ce can, the lighting system is far better, the number of polys is higher and the max file size is bigger, eat your heart out.

Then why do most h2v maps look like crap. Most of them are streched out textures all over the map like on the n64.

Either way, h2v is not as good as Halo Custom Edition. It is far worse.

  • 07.18.2010 6:33 AM PDT

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