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I don't get it. How can people honestly think that Halo doesn't require more skill than Halo 2? Nothing makes me more angry than hearing "PP/BR is the same as the Pistol TSK!" It simply is not. You don't have to aim the PP/BR. The PP tracks them and hits about 98% of the time, and all you have to do with the BR is point it anywhere from their upper chest to 6 inches above their head and you have a kill. In an actual battle situation, it is rare to see a TSK with the pistol. It usually takes upwards of five. And when your target is on a hill or is jumping around or ducking behind cover it can take a whole clip or more. Don't tell me the PP/BR combo takes as much skill as the Pistol TSK.

  • 09.04.2005 12:27 PM PDT
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I guess Halo 2 is better because even in your own forums people like Halo 2 better

  • 09.05.2005 7:07 AM PDT
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Actually. Halo 1 is still the better game, there's no factor in halo 2 that is better than Halo 1, except maybe the XBL feature.

  • 09.05.2005 11:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: dogbert14
Posted by: lSZl Hiro

1. It was Supposedly noobified, this is not true, if it was noobified there would be no modders, cheaters or standbyers, because then they could easily accend to high levels without buying a modder chip, to me more cheaters = more played game.


It's noobified because anyone can be good with any weapon. I was seriously able to go on a running riot in h2 the day I got it, and in Halo 1 was never able to.

2. "the pistol sucks". wah all you Halo 2 haters just hate Halo 2 because it didnt have the pistol, which, if it was put into halo 2, then people would pass up the rocket launcher and sword, just because they start with the pistol, which is the easiest way to kill someone, BOOM BOOM BOOM! dead, with 3 shots, that penetrated through titanium, energy shield, and steriod using super humans. Halo 2 would be a hell of a lot worst had it had the pistol. you all would be called "pistol whores" believe it or not. compared to it, no other weapons in the game exist.

Halo 2 isn't bad because the pistol is gone, it's bad because it's completely imbalanced. TSKs aren't exactly easy, either. Unlike H2 weapons, the bullets don't go to the direct center of the crosshair. H2 is also imbalanced because of things such as the PP+BR combo, the energy sword, and pretty much every other power weapon.

3. "it sucks cause it left me with a cliffhanger..." now this one is just stupid, of course it did, every successful sequal to a movie/game will always have a cliffhanger, yet u all -blam!- about this one. get over it.

Nobody really cares about campaign, at least I don't anyway.

4. "sword ruins the game" another dumb one, you all say this because u lack the skill to use it or easily r owned with it. do the following
1. duel wield two weapons
2. crouch walk
3. WATCH UR MOTHER -blam!-EN MOTION TRACKER, THATS WHY ITS THERE!


Umm, using the word Sword and Skill in the same sentence is extremely far from being right. The sword takes NO SKILL WHATSOEVER to use. Dual wielding weapons to beat it? Well when you're not host on Live you have a huge disadvantage. Crouch walk, yes because it's so much harder to sword a kid who is crouched down. And the motion tracker is there, but it's not exactly easy to watch as a guy with a sword crouch walks behind you and kills you.

5. "sniping is too easy..." i might have to agree with you on that one BUT, theres an easy way to counter it, stay under cover, and dont run right at him, guns a blazing.

It IS easy, and even if you do hide behind a rock, you can show the smallest portion of your body, and you'd be able to be shot no matter what.

6. "matchmaking sucks..." downright lie
Spawning with a weapon that goes no farther than 10 feet in a game for the rush for the power weapons is fun? Yeah that sounds about right. Let me just shoot this guy on the ascension sniper tower from the other side of the map and kill him, WHOOPS I GOT SNIPES.

You guys can flame me all you want, because frankly, i wont be checking this thread again, so you'll be wasting ur time. you guys -blam!- about it in our forums, so im -blam!-ing about you -blam!-ing in our forums,
Halo 2 > Halo 1


You only DON'T like Halo 1 because you're bad at it, simple as that.

-Hiro. [h1>h2]

great. just what i need to start my day: more h2 hater "logic."
and the sword does take some skill to use. if u charge at an enemy and miss during the lock-on and begin being shot at, what are u going to do? its exactly why i almost never pick up the sword anymore; because i always get killded using it. and i have killed many sword users as well.


Okay... This is basically about the sword. Yes. I don't pick it up in a big game of mostly 12 players. (Haven't got LIVE yet) Dual SMG's or something can totally tear through a Sword user before the reticule even turns red. It's happened to me, too.

  • 09.05.2005 1:54 PM PDT
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i love it how halo 2 lovers never have anything bad to say about halo 1 because it has no flaws what so ever. theyre always deffending halo 2 because thats all they can do. face it people, there is nothing wrong with halo 1. its just an all around better game.

  • 09.05.2005 2:18 PM PDT
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Okay. I must say I do not prefer one game over the other, they both did give me alot of entertainment. Sure, I am one of those people who want the old pistol back, the assalt rifle. But what is wrong with that? Everyone here, I'm sure is entitled to their own opinion. So you shouldn't be allowed to just come in a HALO ONLY forum and tell us that our opions are -blam!- and tell us to stop thinking the way we do. The question I ask to you is, why do you care? Why do you care what we think? As I said I do not prefer one over the other, but if someone does good for them. So what? People may not agree with your oppion either.

You know what people I think this kid just had too much time on his hands and just wanted to try and cause some havoc in a forum, nothing else he's wasting the Bungie Forum space for actual Topics that are worth replying too. If I were you guys I'd just leave him and his topic alone and wait for Bungie to move it to the Halo 2 Forums.

MJOLNIR

  • 09.05.2005 2:37 PM PDT
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Halo 2 is boring.

& wow at not picking up rockets and passing up other weapons because of the pistol.

  • 09.05.2005 3:50 PM PDT
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Halo, the one, the original, the greatest. U just can't add things to something so brilliant.

  • 09.05.2005 4:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mr wikawakawoo
i love it how halo 2 lovers never have anything bad to say about halo 1 because it has no flaws what so ever. theyre always deffending halo 2 because thats all they can do. face it people, there is nothing wrong with halo 1. its just an all around better game.


HAHAHAHA, every game has flaws, especially halo 1, i shot a a guy driving a warthog twice with a rocket launcher, and he still didnt die, the sniper rifle sucks, the shotgun is worst than the sword in h2, it has extreme range. plasma nades bounce off of the warthog windshield, a teammate betrays u after poking u with the front of a vehicle, frags were overpowered, most of the maps suck, boarding action was the biggest spawn killing match ever, i could go on and on, u sir, just got served...

-edit- btw, the smg is assault rifle, just a lot better

[Edited on 9/5/2005]

  • 09.05.2005 6:54 PM PDT
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I don't get you people. How can you like one game better than the first? They're both just as good. Quit fighting over somthing so small and just enjoy your game.

MJOLNIR

  • 09.05.2005 11:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheStanman
You guys think halo 2 was bad.... it wasn't. In fact, it was much better, so let me proove u about everything u hate about Halo 2...

Alright then let's see your argument.

1. It was Supposedly noobified, this is not true, if it was noobified there would be no modders, cheaters or standbyers, because then they could easily accend to high levels without buying a modder chip, to me more cheaters = more played game.
C'mon, even you could admit atleast it was made for the more casual gamer, hitboxes, ease use of weapons. But I'm not sure where you're going with this, cheaters wouldn't need to cheat because they would go higher levels, what would make them so special?


2. "the pistol sucks". wah all you Halo 2 haters just hate Halo 2 because it didnt have the pistol, which, if it was put into halo 2, then people would pass up the rocket launcher and sword, just because they start with the pistol, which is the easiest way to kill someone, BOOM BOOM BOOM! dead, with 3 shots, that penetrated through titanium, energy shield, and steriod using super humans. Halo 2 would be a hell of a lot worst had it had the pistol. you all would be called "pistol whores" believe it or not. compared to it, no other weapons in the game exist.
People didn't enjoy halo 2 because they didn't get the same feel from playing it. Easiest way to kill someone? Maybe you can't remember back to CE days, but with that pistol you didn't have the auto aim, and do you remember how you had to lead your shots? I'm sorry you must have been thinking about the CE pistol in halo 2 physics.


3. "it sucks cause it left me with a cliffhanger..." now this one is just stupid, of course it did, every successful sequal to a movie/game will always have a cliffhanger, yet u all -blam!- about this one. get over it.
Meh, i don't think anyone really cares. I never cared about it.

4. "sword ruins the game" another dumb one, you all say this because u lack the skill to use it or easily r owned with it. do the following
1. duel wield two weapons
2. crouch walk
3. WATCH UR MOTHER -blam!-EN MOTION TRACKER, THATS WHY ITS THERE!

No matter how much "advice" you try to give people, the sword will still be an easy cheap kill weapon. You never had to learn to use it, or take care in using it, easy rampages.

5. "sniping is too easy..." i might have to agree with you on that one BUT, theres an easy way to counter it, stay under cover, and dont run right at him, guns a blazing.
Sometimes it too late, can't find cover early enough. I wish dodging worked...

6. "matchmaking sucks..." downright lie
Ohh i can see why. But i'd rather play something i want to without people gettin frustrated over rank.


You guys can flame me all you want, because frankly, i wont be checking this thread again, so you'll be wasting ur time. you guys -blam!- about it in our forums, so im -blam!-ing about you -blam!-ing in our forums,
Maybe it's just me, but didn't you answer back?


Halo 2 > Halo 1
Your opinion, keep it in mind, and could you just please respect that fact people enjoy Halo:CE more, i don't care if you enjoy halo 2 more. But when you make statements about things you don't understand, you should look at what you said again.

  • 09.06.2005 6:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: TheStanman
HAHAHAHA, every game has flaws, especially halo 1, i shot a a guy driving a warthog twice with a rocket launcher, and he still didnt die.


Hmm, maybe he had overshield? Or maybe you just made that up, considering a rocket will kill a fully overshielded person if it hits in Halo 1.

the sniper rifle sucks, the shotgun is worst than the sword in h2, it has extreme range.

The sniper only "sucks" because you can't use it for your life, you actually have to AIM and LEAD IT, believe it or not. The shotgun is worse than the sword in H2? No, not really. You see, the shotgun in this game actually WORKS, and most smart people who play H1 don't try and long range shotgun someone.

plasma nades bounce off of the warthog windshield, a teammate betrays u after poking u with the front of a vehicle, frags were overpowered,

Well, you do realize that a plasma grenade isn't meant to stick to bulletproof glass? The betrayal thing? That wasn't a big problem, you just had to make sure that you weren't too close while it's moving.

most of the maps suck, boarding action was the biggest spawn killing match ever, i could go on and on, u sir, just got served...

-edit- btw, the smg is assault rifle, just a lot better


Chillout, Damnation, Hangem High, Prisoner, Derelict, Battle Creek. Those maps definitely do not suck. Boarding Action is a sniper based map, pretty much. So, just learn to snipe, then maybe you wouldn't complain, but Ha1o is the better game 110%.

The SMG is the Assault Rifle but better? Is that why it takes 2 SMGs to equal the power of an assault rifle?

Ha1o > Halo 2

  • 09.06.2005 9:27 AM PDT

Drop it.

  • 09.06.2005 9:30 AM PDT

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