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Subject: Covenant Traitors
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Poll: Will some of the Covies join us?  [closed]
Hunters:  11%
(4 Votes)
Grunts:  8%
(3 Votes)
Against the Flood:  13%
(5 Votes)
Never:  68%
(26 Votes)
Total Votes: 38

What I mean by "against the Flood," is that maybe if the Covies in a particular area know they're going to die against the Flood alone, would they join you? It would be awesome if some Covenant in a Flood-infested level decided that they want to live and will join you for a limited time (or maybe permanently if they're Grunts). Imagine fighting through wave after wave of Flood with a black Elite at your side. The more you save him the more he trusts you and stuff like that. If anyone here has played The Thing, I'm thinking of something along the lines of the trust/fear system there.

  • 05.02.2004 3:10 PM PDT
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I think you should read the HALO books. I seriously doubt any covies would join us. We are at a royal JIHAD with the covenant. They have a deep-seeded hatred of the human race. It is the will of the God's. What I think we may see in Halo 2 is not Covenant traitor's, but rather human ones. Maybe for money or survival. Who know's?

  • 05.02.2004 3:16 PM PDT
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I have read the books. While they have been thoroughly indoctrinated, it seems that the Elites still can't get the all-powerful survival instinct out of the Grunts. If the war started to turn around, I could see a lot of the cowards changing sides out of fear for their lives. Hunters... they don't like anyone.

[Edited on 5/2/2004 3:53:22 PM]

  • 05.02.2004 3:53 PM PDT
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They would never join us. They are sort of like Japan in World War II. They'd rather give up their lives (atleast everything except maybe grunts [and they wouldn't join you either, they'd run]) then go with another group against their ways (humans). Sorry, I don't think it would happen, it would be cool to have a Black Elite fight along side you. ( ;
It just won't happen though.

  • 05.02.2004 4:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Terran Grunt
Hunters... they don't like anyone.


Hunters lingo with the Elites. Apparently, they 'recognize and respect a simliar warrior mentality' with the elites.

[Edited on 5/2/2004 4:04:27 PM]

  • 05.02.2004 4:04 PM PDT
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I think the grunts because if you have read in the book "The Flood", it tells how disrespectful the elites are to grunts. so im going with grunts

  • 05.02.2004 5:00 PM PDT
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The only good covie is a dead covie....mabey lightly tosted, with a little vinigarrete.

  • 05.02.2004 5:16 PM PDT
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Going from the books and the video games... Never ever (well maybe some Grunt if they get asymmetry and a nice little quiet place well away from combat. But thats only if they know the Elite won't kill them first).

In the game. THEY SHOT ME instead of the Flood thats right in there face! I walk along the side of a Flood Convent fire fight and both sides take a time out and fire every thing they have at ME. Why me, why!? The all need to die (although I am sympathetic to the grunts, all they really want to do is sleep. I'd leave them alone if they did get up and shot me in the back when I'm not looking.)

  • 05.02.2004 5:24 PM PDT
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Yea, I hate when the Covenant and The Flood will be engaged in a fire-fight, but when i come around the corner, ooooo noooo, they all have to shoot me! Why can't they still fight each other?

  • 05.02.2004 5:50 PM PDT
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My guess is that they attack you because they are computer programs both designed to target the player, go figure.

  • 05.02.2004 5:52 PM PDT
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A grunt might join forces with the humans. SPOILERS!!!!
Yayap, briefly considers joining forces with the marines. Also notice, grunts are not particulalry brave, or have an extreme desire to transcend the physical. If a grunt is near an Elite, or other grunts, he will put up a good fight. But once you eliminate his friends/superiors, he's tearing out of there. They just want to survive, they don't really care about fighting to the death. At least some of them ;)

  • 05.02.2004 11:43 PM PDT
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umm i really doubt that any covenant would change sides maybe if like we "pretended" to capture a grunt and maybe he could give us intel but all i know is that there is 1 grunt who doesnt shoot you and even talks to you....hes in the final level down 1 of the passage ways when your in the vehicle. he was really cool i actually wanted him to jump in with me but i then "acidently" ran him over......he was really cool though.

  • 05.03.2004 1:29 AM PDT
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I think that none are likely to join us but the Hunters and possibly the Grunts would be more likely to start fighting their own war against the covenant and us, it has been said that the Hunters respect the Elites for their fighting instinct, you CAN respect your enemy, and the Hunters do not have the same beliefs as the other covenant races.

  • 05.03.2004 3:58 AM PDT
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If the hunters respect the elites, beacuse they recognize a similiar warrior spirit or something, and they side with the covenant because of that or something, one can wonder what they think of MC. After all, MC should be considered a "greater" warrior than hunters, elites and brutes, because noone i know about have killed more covenant than MC

  • 05.03.2004 7:23 AM PDT
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I don't think it's fair to say that any specific race of covenant is going to join forces with humans, because that is an absolute, and absolutes are generally a bad thing.
It would be safer to say that a small sect of covenant, that consists of a small number of most of the races, who do not agree with how the prophets run things will split off from the covenant as a whole, and team up with the MC and/or the UNSC.

  • 05.03.2004 9:15 AM PDT
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Yes but even if that does happen the UNSC will probably just kill all of them when there all together in a room or somthing because the UNSC is just like that. They believe (and so do i) that a good covenant is a dead covenant.

  • 05.03.2004 10:41 AM PDT
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i really dont think that we would let any covenant join us. only cause of the fact theyve been trying to wipe us out for the past 20-odd years(or something like that?)

  • 05.03.2004 11:21 AM PDT
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If i were to fight with the covies at any point or were to protect them I would friekin kill them no matter what.

  • 05.03.2004 11:30 AM PDT