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Subject: A New Proposal as to John-117's Location
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You don't get that reference.

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I propose a new theory for John's location to Bungie, in hopes that they use it for a new game series. It is extremely contrary to the popular "Marathon Universe" theory, and with increasingly supportive evidence. You see, I propose that, not only is the Master Chief in the original Halo universe, but also that he is indeed floating towards a Forerunner planet. You see, at the end of Halo 3, the frigate Forward Unto Dawn is heading into a Slipspace Portal. Allow me to explain how these things work: Any object heads into one end. As they pass through, they go into another universe WHERE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS ARE SEVERELY ALTERED FOR A TRAVELING ADVANTADGE. This crosses out the Marathon universe option, as in Marathon, everything clearly moves at a normal speed. The object then travels across the following space far faster than in the normal universe. The Slipspace Portal does not provide any motion on its own, but simply makes objects move faster for the same amount of energy released. It then comes out of THE OTHER PORTAL. This also removes the chance of a Marathon crossover. You see, there are two portals in Slipspace travel: a black hole created for entry and another after arriving where you want for exodus. Only the portal near the Ark collapsed, not the one on Earth, so if they made it thru the Ark's side into that Slipspace portal, how could they have been stranded? Also, if Mendicant Bias did change coordinates, how did the Arbiter make it to Earth? After all, Master Chief being in the Marathon universe would only be possible if the entire frigate remained intact. Therefore, I have purpose to believe that John is in space near the Ark. John is seen floating away in Halo 3, towards a planet. I have cogent reason to believe that that planet is a Forerunner world. If the Forerunners managed to save all of the life in the galaxy, why didn't they save themselves? They surely must have taken a precaution by shipping many of their species there. I believe that Didact and the Librarian's messages in the Terminals may simply have been personal, and not referring to an entire auto-genocide. Also, Mendicant Bias has very puzzling words in the Terminals about the Master Chief being his example and proof for his atonement to his makers. How else could anyone explain the glyphs on the planet, its vaguely (city) inhabited technological appearance, and, dare I say it, its similarity to the Forerunner planet in Halo: Legends Origins?

Edit: I would like people to speculate on this new theory, and perhaps form new ones of their own.

[Edited on 08.08.2010 10:28 PM PDT]

  • 08.08.2010 10:22 PM PDT

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A police falcon would be great as well... (Black&white paint job, flashing red & blue lights on the wing struts and tail, no turrets and doors that open and close similar to the republic gunships in Star Wars. Kick... Ass.)

Police pelican would be cool too!!!

Try proposing this on THIS.

  • 08.08.2010 10:35 PM PDT
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You don't get that reference.

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I did, didn't you read the post? There are so many reasons why it couldn't have happened.

  • 08.08.2010 10:38 PM PDT

I haven't read what you guys are talking bout but since it involves the fallen hero I hope that after Reach and bungie moves on to whatever they are going to work on with activision which I am hoping wont be a disappointment...I hope since Microsoft owns the halo titles and they decide to continue there biggest money maker, I truthfully hope when they assign another company to work on our baby they don't mess anything up too badly.

  • 08.08.2010 11:11 PM PDT
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You don't get that reference.

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Halo n3w8. FPS n3w8.

Does ANYONE read my theory?

  • 08.10.2010 10:46 AM PDT
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Dude no offense but you need to space the OP into paragraphs.

That said your theory makes infinitely more sense than that load of codswallop about him travelling to the Marathon universe and is, in fact, what I have always thought was the case.

To me it's obvious the portal near the Ark closed before the chief's half of the ship got through (I believe this is even stated in one of the end of game cutscenes) so him being in the vicinity of the Ark seems like an obvious conclusion.

[Edited on 08.10.2010 11:01 AM PDT]

  • 08.10.2010 10:51 AM PDT

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I got your theory from playing the game. No offence, but you haven't added anything I haven't seen in the Legendary ending, just said how it can't be Marathon.

  • 08.10.2010 10:53 AM PDT
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Its an interesting theory. Since Bungie really gets to pick the laws of physics in their universe that could very well happen. Would the Forerunners be friendly though? If Bungie does extend the Halo series or leave it where it is. I'll go along with the story. Either way I'll be happy.

  • 08.10.2010 10:58 AM PDT

I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...

I just want to reiterate that fact that Bungie is lord of the Halo universe. So they could make anything happen.

So as for my theory, I was thinking that everyone thinks that it is a Forerunner planet because of the way it looks and the glyphs, but why cant it be Onyx, the planet where Dr. Halsey, Linda, Kelly, Fred, Tom and Lucy are stuck in.

I mean if you assume that the halos firing kills all sentient life in the range there are only 2 options; a)that Onyx has some mystical forerunner power to block the halos fire... or b)that it slipspace jumps to a place where it would be safe from the halos fire. AKA near the Ark, hence why John and Cortana are floating towards it.

Seeing as the Dyson Sphere is of forerunner design it could have glyphs on it and would be about the size of a small planet :)

That is my theory.

PS - sorry for continuing a thread thats in the wrong forum, but this is the exact topic I have been looking for.

[Edited on 08.10.2010 2:27 PM PDT]

  • 08.10.2010 2:26 PM PDT

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i believe it is the planet ONYX, if youve read the ghost of onyx, it matches the descriptions

  • 08.10.2010 2:33 PM PDT

little kids get the hell off of halo!GHO for the win!

dont worry we will find out 343 industries stated they will continue the story through a halo 4

  • 08.10.2010 2:35 PM PDT

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  • 08.10.2010 2:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: Foton
Its an interesting theory. Since Bungie really gets to pick the laws of physics in their universe that could very well happen. Would the Forerunners be friendly though? If Bungie does extend the Halo series or leave it where it is. I'll go along with the story. Either way I'll be happy.


"Would the Forerunners be friendly though?" What kind of question is this?:/

  • 08.10.2010 2:50 PM PDT

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No need to propose where he is. The books are pretty clear on this topic, specifclly if your looking for it.

  • 08.10.2010 3:01 PM PDT

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There is thing called Halo Encyclopedia (it's a book, if you don't know what is it, search Wikipedia) that explains the following:

First: There are only one portal (one earth) all the others were destroyed.

Second: The Foreruners survived and departed for other galaxy

Third: The Foreruners have a the obrigation with the Mantle (their "religion") to protect all species inferior to them

  • 08.10.2010 3:09 PM PDT

Remember Reach.


Posted by: WhazAgoonToagobl
i believe it is the planet ONYX, if youve read the ghost of onyx, it matches the descriptions


Uh, Onyx ASPLODED. Sorry.

  • 08.10.2010 3:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: WhazAgoonToagobl
i believe it is the planet ONYX, if youve read the ghost of onyx, it matches the descriptions
It seems that you don't read a book to the very end

  • 08.10.2010 3:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: WhazAgoonToagobl
i believe it is the planet ONYX, if youve read the ghost of onyx, it matches the descriptions
Onyx went BOOM.

  • 08.10.2010 3:42 PM PDT
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Sorry to put a downer on this, but if the MC was near the Ark how did he survive the activation of the halo ring?

  • 08.10.2010 4:42 PM PDT

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dont worry we will find out 343 industries stated they will continue the story through a halo 4

Seriously?

  • 08.10.2010 11:37 PM PDT