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Posted by: Sandhilaker
This is a wild theory but I believe the person Halsey is talking to is Kurt Ambrose. After all Bungie has Kurt's name HERE.


That was a note to Chief Mendez regarding the SpartanIII program. Mendez and Kurt Ambrose (Kurt-051) were actually both on the planet Onyx during the events of Reach and Halo:CE. He didn't meet up with Halsey until she arrived on Onyx.

Good theory though.

Actually it could well be Auntie Dot. Per Halopedia:

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Auntie_Dot

"Auntie Dot was a human Artificial Intelligence construct at the time of the Fall of Reach.[1] Its current status is unknown, but it was likely destroyed in the battle. She will keep the player connected to the rest of Noble Team while on separate missions"

[Edited on 08.17.2010 9:12 PM PDT]

  • 08.17.2010 9:10 PM PDT


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Posted by: CRUDFACE
I was a little confused with halsey due to that halo legends episode where she still looks young but is like 50 in this one. Are the halo legend episodes canon?
i thought the same thing but she is older in the Halo legends film its just the type of anime that makes her look young she still had some grey in her hair.


No, she was in cryo, it specifically said it. she was completely blond with a young body. I think they just forgot about it. According to legends, she should be sleep right now. maybe they just forgot?

  • 08.17.2010 9:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: CatNCobra 6
ok maybe im the only one who's thinking this but does the ending not seem like halsey was talking to an AI? obviously not cortana, but the question is, if this is the case, who? could we be getting another helping of AI smack talking goodness in the back of our heads?

I was thinking the same thing; but in fact I think it was Cortana, and we might even get to 'carry' her for a while...

Here's my reasoning:

ViDoc 2:47 "Yes, well great minds do think alike" A reference from 'The Fall of Reach' to Cortana being created from Dr Hasley's cloned mind. I think Dr Halsey is talking to Cortana.

We know Cortana was on Reach before ending up on the Pillar of Autumn. We know John-117 and Cortana were seperated after testing the MJOLNIR Mk.V armor. It's not spelt out how Cortana was transported to the Pillar of Autumn (is it?)

ViDoc 2:32 "Yet only one of them can carry our last hope"A reference to Cortana being our last hope, or a refence to the Pillar of Autumns suicidal attempt to capture a Prophet? (a bit of a grasp)

ViDoc 2:45 "So, you've made your choice."A reference to Cortana getting to choose her transporter (no, Noble 6 is not the MC).

So perhaps one of the missions is to deliver Cortana from Dr Hasley's ONI office through enemy lines to the waiting Pillar of Autmn; this would allow for a nice sign off to Cortana.

Thoughts?

[Edited on 08.17.2010 9:47 PM PDT]

  • 08.17.2010 9:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: CRUDFACE

Posted by: ZenoM0RPH

Posted by: CRUDFACE
I was a little confused with halsey due to that halo legends episode where she still looks young but is like 50 in this one. Are the halo legend episodes canon?
i thought the same thing but she is older in the Halo legends film its just the type of anime that makes her look young she still had some grey in her hair.


No, she was in cryo, it specifically said it. she was completely blond with a young body. I think they just forgot about it. According to legends, she should be sleep right now. maybe they just forgot?


Actually no. The ep in Halo Legends "The Package", Chief was wearing Mark IV armor. During the events of Reach and Halo 001, he was wearing Mark V, and in Halo 2 and 3 it was Mark VI. Since Chief didn't actually get the Mark V armor until JUST before the Fall of Reach, that would place "The Package" at a time prior to Halo: Reach. Which considering that they had the Mark IV armor for roughly 25 years, it could have been at any point really.

  • 08.17.2010 9:29 PM PDT

EPIC ViDoc! To see Halsey awesome.... Jen voicing her as well even better. She still sounds just as good as she did when she did Halo: CE. This definitely raises the hype meter for good reason... Bungie you lads and ladies sure are pulling out all the stops to send Reach off with one Hell of a BANG!

Thank you!

  • 08.17.2010 9:41 PM PDT


Posted by: MightyInBattle11
Posted by: CatNCobra 6
ok maybe im the only one who's thinking this but does the ending not seem like halsey was talking to an AI? obviously not cortana, but the question is, if this is the case, who? could we be getting another helping of AI smack talking goodness in the back of our heads?

I was thinking the same thing; but in fact I think it was Cortana, and we might even get to 'carry' Cortana for a while!
Agree with the reasoning you have put up. Only time will tell if you are right...

Here's my reasoning:

ViDoc 2:47 "Yes, well great minds do think alike" A reference from 'The Fall of Reach' to Cortana being created from Dr Hasley cloned mind. I think Dr Halsey is talking to Cortana.

We know Cortana was on Reach before ending up on the Pillar of Autumn. We know John-117 and Cortana were seperated after testing the MJOLNIR Mk.V armor. It's not spelt out how Cortana was transported to the Pillar of Autumn (is it?)

ViDoc 2:32 "Yet only one of them can carry our last hope"A reference to Cortana being our last hope, or a refence to the Pillar of Autumns suicidal attempt to capture a Prophet? (a bit of a grasp)

ViDoc 2:45 "So, you've made your choice."A reference to Cortana getting to choose her transporter (no, Noble 6 is not the MC).

So perhaps one of the missions is to deliver Cortana from Dr Hasley ONI office through enemy lines to the waiting Pillar of Autmn; this would allow for a nice sign off to Cortana.

Thoughts?


I agree with your line of thought... Only time will tell if you are right.

[Edited on 08.17.2010 9:45 PM PDT]

  • 08.17.2010 9:43 PM PDT

I was able to turn the last scene there with Halsey to get the information that was on the bottom of the screen but backwards.. Not sure what the words mean... Other than seeing SpecWar.... here Anyone have any ideas?

  • 08.17.2010 10:04 PM PDT

JLC
Leave me alone in space.

Cool that Halsey is going to be in it.

  • 08.17.2010 10:11 PM PDT

Apocalyptic FTW

wait she isnt blue ???????

  • 08.17.2010 10:19 PM PDT

amazing. definitely justifies how much money I'm trying to spend on this game. XD

  • 08.17.2010 10:59 PM PDT

The Chief is never beaten.


Posted by: MightyInBattle11
So perhaps one of the missions is to deliver Cortana from Dr Hasley's ONI office through enemy lines to the waiting Pillar of Autmn; this would allow for a nice sign off to Cortana.

Thoughts?

That's actually very probably a near-end mission. Halsey did talk about in the ViDoc how only ONE of the Spartans would be able to CARRY their last hope. Cortana fits those perimeters (Master Chief would be nowhere without her). That would be a really awesome mission too, perfectly tying into the beginning of Halo: CE.

Posted by: Green2222
I was able to turn the last scene there with Halsey to get the information that was on the bottom of the screen but backwards.. Not sure what the words mean... Other than seeing SpecWar.... here Anyone have any ideas?

I noticed the words "Group 3" and after that, "AI - ARCT."

[Edited on 08.17.2010 11:26 PM PDT]

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There's nothing to see here, move along.

3 simple words Bungie...

I love you.

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"Dear Bungie.net, we regret being stubborn bastards, we regret coming to this forum, and we most definitely regret that Darth Kooky blew up our raggedy-ass opinion!"

What if my eyes...teared up?

No seriously, I was so excited and completely blown away that my eyes teared up when I saw Halsey is in Reach. So much story...

Judging from all the Firefight and Multiplayer spaces, this Campaign is going to be really long. Awesome! :D

[Edited on 08.18.2010 12:28 AM PDT]

  • 08.18.2010 12:26 AM PDT


Posted by: MightyInBattle11
Posted by: CatNCobra 6
ok maybe im the only one who's thinking this but does the ending not seem like halsey was talking to an AI? obviously not cortana, but the question is, if this is the case, who? could we be getting another helping of AI smack talking goodness in the back of our heads?

I was thinking the same thing; but in fact I think it was Cortana, and we might even get to 'carry' her for a while...

Here's my reasoning:

ViDoc 2:47 "Yes, well great minds do think alike" A reference from 'The Fall of Reach' to Cortana being created from Dr Hasley's cloned mind. I think Dr Halsey is talking to Cortana.

We know Cortana was on Reach before ending up on the Pillar of Autumn. We know John-117 and Cortana were seperated after testing the MJOLNIR Mk.V armor. It's not spelt out how Cortana was transported to the Pillar of Autumn (is it?)

ViDoc 2:32 "Yet only one of them can carry our last hope"A reference to Cortana being our last hope, or a refence to the Pillar of Autumns suicidal attempt to capture a Prophet? (a bit of a grasp)

ViDoc 2:45 "So, you've made your choice."A reference to Cortana getting to choose her transporter (no, Noble 6 is not the MC).

So perhaps one of the missions is to deliver Cortana from Dr Hasley's ONI office through enemy lines to the waiting Pillar of Autmn; this would allow for a nice sign off to Cortana.

Thoughts?


I thought this also. What I heard sounded like Halsey was talking to a younger version of herself.
Although Auntie Dot's avatar shows throughout the Vidoc, doesn't really mean Halsey was talking to her.

Posted by: Green2222
I was able to turn the last scene there with Halsey to get the information that was on the bottom of the screen but backwards.. Not sure what the words mean... Other than seeing SpecWar.... here Anyone have any ideas?


I don't know what any of it means but
(this is just me guessing what it says):

HIGHCOM/SPECWAR/GROUP_3
AI-ARTC/DIRCT FEED/SAT/REG
RCH/VRY/OTKZT/EPSZ/BD CTH/SWD/SL-D2
550816/RN08T6
[MMR-YV 78 // 423]

[Edited on 08.18.2010 1:04 AM PDT]

  • 08.18.2010 12:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: QKT100
MC's cortana made her choice way early on, when he was still a kid and all that coin and luck nonsense. -see halo 3 opening- so I get the feeling it's not the same cortana, because cortana was on the pillar of autumn, and I think that she was there for a while...?

All just supposing though.


wrong sir. the words used at the halo 3 opening are referencing the conversation that cortana had with dr halsey about choosing MC when she did. So this conversation in the reach vidoc is either the same conversation as another poster referenced (ie: she chose the chief over noble 6) or, if they are strict with canon (where she only had her choice of the spartan II's) then this is an additional story and cortana has to make a choice again as she assists/advises Hasley on a decision. They just like to do this more conversationally. And the "great minds do think alike" is just their way of saying "I agree with your assesment" without sounding too military-ish

  • 08.18.2010 12:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: KyuuRenon
I like that you guys said that they had to complete a final legendary mission.
That means that there is more to the campaign than pointlessly trying to defend reach cuz everbody knows that it will fail..
So i hope that i am taking to words right and that the campaign will actually have a purpose, and not end in total failure, with nothing accomplished.


Right, and I'm thinking its getting someone to transport *something* as a result of the discovery of the FORERUNNER CRYSTAL under Castle Base (where they trained the spartans etc). So reach will fall, but which of noble team has the best chance to make it off the planet and escape total destruction? thats the question posed in the ViDoc

  • 08.18.2010 1:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: milesk182
Can some one catch me up to speed, i just started reading Reach again for the second time but in the first chapter it describes Halsey as long dark hair but the vidoc shows her with blonde as do some of the videos out there? Secondly if i remember right, she created/programmed Cortana based on herself and personality which made me think she was talking to Cortana because i thought they shared the same voice? Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, it's been quite awhile and this is based on memory?

Thanks

Awesome Vidoc, gave me goosebumps!

Posted by: milesk182
Can some one catch me up to speed, i just started reading Reach again for the second time but in the first chapter it describes Halsey as long dark hair but the vidoc shows her with blonde as do some of the videos out there? Secondly if i remember right, she created/programmed Cortana based on herself and personality which made me think she was talking to Cortana because i thought they shared the same voice? Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, it's been quite awhile and this is based on memory?


in the video her here is streaky grey. she had way already started to grow grey hair by the time reach fell. you'll see as you read further in the book.

and yes, she is most likely speaking to cortana if not locally, then on like a phonecall.

  • 08.18.2010 1:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: MightyInBattle11


Here's my reasoning:

ViDoc 2:47 "Yes, well great minds do think alike" A reference from 'The Fall of Reach' to Cortana being created from Dr Hasley's cloned mind. I think Dr Halsey is talking to Cortana.

We know Cortana was on Reach before ending up on the Pillar of Autumn. We know John-117 and Cortana were seperated after testing the MJOLNIR Mk.V armor. It's not spelt out how Cortana was transported to the Pillar of Autumn (is it?)

ViDoc 2:32 "Yet only one of them can carry our last hope"A reference to Cortana being our last hope, or a refence to the Pillar of Autumns suicidal attempt to capture a Prophet? (a bit of a grasp)

ViDoc 2:45 "So, you've made your choice."A reference to Cortana getting to choose her transporter (no, Noble 6 is not the MC).

So perhaps one of the missions is to deliver Cortana from Dr Hasley's ONI office through enemy lines to the waiting Pillar of Autmn; this would allow for a nice sign off to Cortana.

Thoughts?


agree with all of this. as soon as i watched the vidoc this is what came to mind. specifically with regards to the vidoc as a trailer for the game - it means there is a larger purpose to fighting an epic losing battle; noble 6 will have to get something off the planet / into the right hands - or die trying. That's exciting.

and the canon supports everything you proposed based on first strike and fall of reach

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Because she chooses Noble 6. But he dies and Master Chief doesn't!
Posted by: Lonewolf Gamma
True, but in the Halo 3 opening narration of Cortana and in "Fall of Reach" it was shown that MC had "luck". Even Cortana said that MC was the only one she saw with luck which is why she chose him.

  • 08.18.2010 2:53 AM PDT

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My mother always told me that a woman is like a cactus; succulent and pleasing to the eye but if you touch one, you will suffer a rending of the flesh and subsequent poisoning of the mind, body and nervous system leaving you foaming in the dirt like a rabid dog.

And that's an under statement :)

  • 08.18.2010 3:11 AM PDT

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Why does jorg speak with an english accent?...he was born on Reach, sooo...just to mention one.

  • 08.18.2010 3:35 AM PDT

is emile black not being racist but i think it is pretty cool they have a kinda multi cultrual team now :)

  • 08.18.2010 3:44 AM PDT

probably cause they base a clone on someone else or something like that

  • 08.18.2010 3:52 AM PDT
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To clear things up. Halsey was talking to Cortana about her picking Master Chief. Hence her saying "Great minds think alike." And btw theres a good chance Keys will be in the game as well due to the fact that his picture was on a screen about 2/3's into the ViDoc!!! Can't -blam!- wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited on 08.18.2010 4:50 AM PDT]

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