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Subject: ViDoc: A Spartan Will Rise

Ok this is for the people who haven't figured out:
Harsley is talking to Cortana (it hints it in the vid)
The Spartan she was talking about is Master Chief
At the end, Harsley was talking to Cortana about what spartan she was choosing, which was Master Chief (Goto the Beginning of Halo 3). Hope that helped :D

  • 08.18.2010 6:30 PM PDT

This is another thought..
Pillar of Autumn didn't leave as soon as the Covenant invaded Reach. It would've taken a while to get Cortana to the Pillar Of Autumn with the Covenant trying to stop their progress.
With Cortana being the 'last hope', my thoughts is that IF (not saying it happens cause it doesn't) Halsey were to have died, all her knowledge in everything (which is a lot and important things) would not be lost because it is in Cortana.

  • 08.18.2010 6:56 PM PDT
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k this is out to all of those diehard MC fans, NOBLE 6 IS NOT MASTER CHIEF, bungie has said that noble 6 is not MC, and y would bungie lie to to its fans, that could cause some serius problems.

  • 08.18.2010 8:50 PM PDT

Stunned once again. That voice sounds similar to Cortana. Did Halsey help create Cortana or something? anyways bad ass vidoc.

  • 08.18.2010 10:22 PM PDT

All hail halo

Haha, I laughed when she said," his rating is hyperlethal, interesting there's only one other spartan with that rating"....

  • 08.18.2010 10:38 PM PDT
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  • 08.18.2010 11:11 PM PDT
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lol

  • 08.18.2010 11:12 PM PDT
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-blam!- you. -blam!- Microsoft. -blam!- Bungie.

Why am I always hearing people talking about pants when it comes to Halo? My clan name in Halo 3 I even "The No Pants Clan". Lol.

  • 08.19.2010 3:26 AM PDT

on one of the previous updates, it said to bring extra pants for gamescon (this is what i think they are talking about anyways)

  • 08.19.2010 3:41 AM PDT

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Apart from the horrible script and voice acting from whoever was voicing Hasley, that was awsome. I lol'd at the Army of Hunters XD

Though Kat was firing that Pistol very slowly. Please don't tell me it's been reduced to firing once every second, it was perfect in the beta!

  • 08.19.2010 4:18 AM PDT

I totally agree with you

  • 08.19.2010 6:09 AM PDT

I am all our makers once held dear: [Alexandria before the Fire].

((Farewell Halo 2! You will not be forgotten! Farewell!))

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I think that she originally chooses Noble 6. But he dies and so she instead chooses the chief. This is why Cortana/Hasley Says about luck at the start of Halo 3. Because Chief survived Reach and Noble 6 didn't.


Incorrect. Read The Fall of Reach (excellent book). Cortana chose the Master Chief from the very beginning and no one else. Noble Team is an afterthought and this is the first mention of them ever. The whole team (except for Jorge) are also Spartan-IIIs which were basically super-soldiers massed-produced for cheap. They are neither as big, nor strong, fast, reflexive, etc. as Spartan-IIs (which is what Jorge is, and of course the Chief). S-IIIs didn't even have the shielded armor of the S-IIs.
Not only that, but Noble Team's simply being on Reach has got to be one of the biggest plot-holes by far, since the S-IIIs where a top secret ONI project that NO ONE, not even Halsey who was the creator of the S-II Program, knew about. There were three S-III groups throughout the course of the war: Alpha, Beta, and Gamma.

Alpha was completely wiped out in a suicide mission which was a key victory for humanity that no one would ever hear about (because if the public caught wind of a program that abducted children to train as cheaply mass-produced super soldiers for guaranteed suicide mission, there would be an outcry and morale would severely drop; also, humanity only had an estimated few months, which could possibly shrink to weeks, before they lost the war and were wiped out. Thus, S-IIIs "never existed." The planet of Onyx where the S-IIIs where trained was also top secret and "never existed."

Beta Company met the same fate but had only two survivors (hold this thought, I'm coming back to it).

The status of the current group, Gamma company, whether wiped out, scattered, or partly deployed, is unknown. However, Noble Team ARE NOT Gamma S-IIIs. If you look under "Games" on the home page and look up "Personnel," you'll see all the info on Noble Team including date of births, which shows them to be in their early twenties (except for Jorge who is about Forty). All S-III Gammas are about twelve years old (Spartans saw active duty at a young age). This would make the Beta Company survivors about twenty by the time Gamma Company was fit for active duty. But remember there were only two survivors, and they helped train the Gammas on Onyx (again, I'm coming back to this).
Thus, we have this group of S-IIIs (you being one of them) in the Halo: Reach game that have no explanation for their being there, or where they came from and how.
(For more on the Spartan-IIIs, see the novel Ghosts of Onyx by Eric Nylund--in fact, any Halo book with E. Nylund's name on it [including Fall of Reach], pick it up. His are the best by far.)

HOWEVER, despite what I have said thus far in the above paragraph about Beta and Gamma Companies, Bungie has provided an explanation for where Noble 6 and Kat come from. Again, if you look under "Games" on the home page and go to "Personnel" . . . aw frick it, look here:
http://www.bungie.net/projects/reach/article.aspx?ucc=personn el&cid=24040
This is a letter that the top trainer of the S-IIIs sent to his right hand man. In the first paragraph, he talks about how they were lucky to get S-312 (Noble 6) out of Beta Company (you'll see the Greek symbol for "Beta") immediately after training, and that they were "...lucky to get S-320 (Kat) out at all..."
Interestingly enough, Bungie has not provided an explanation for the rest of Noble Team. Hopefully they will.
As best as I can figure, the S-IIIs in Noble Team would have to be from Beta Company, but they only provide explanations for N6 and Kat. Until I can see some documented proof of where the rest came from, Noble Team is just a plot hole and an inconsistency in the Halo fiction.

READ THIS: At the part of the video when Hasley asks to see Noble team. At the point when it says "Carter, Noble 1" or whatever, it sounds just like Cortana (whereas Hasley's voice is slightly different in tone).
That's my opinion any way.


Possibly, but at any rate, this is just Bungie's way of formally introducing each member of Noble Team for the sake of the trailer. It's not like Cortana is deciding which Spartan would suit best to carry her. As I said, she chose the Master Chief from the very beginning. She explains this herself at the beginning of Halo 3.

Now with all this being said, I want to offer some friendly advice: it's helps to review material about the lore of something (especially if you know it's out there, and especially when it's considered part of the cannon, which the Halo books are) before speculating on a public forum about said fiction. :-)

  • 08.19.2010 6:48 AM PDT

I can't wait for Reach. Like every ViDoc has made my paint my walls white... What?

  • 08.19.2010 11:52 AM PDT

I like video games, Jesus, music, and love my girlfriend. :) PM me, we'll talk.

I'm so excited about reach!!
*Head 'Splodes*

  • 08.19.2010 12:50 PM PDT
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Another theory that i read from Spartan IJS's post is that the vidoc might just be a video that introduces noble team to you, and halsey or whatever A.I that is might not be in the game.

[Edited on 08.19.2010 1:49 PM PDT]

  • 08.19.2010 1:49 PM PDT

Bad Ass!

  • 08.19.2010 4:30 PM PDT
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Another Halsey avatar [not unlike Cortona] picking another lucky Spartan?

Cortana picking John?

Is this all a rouse and we are actually playing as Spartan 117 in the battle of Reach [read the book again if you disagree ...]?

Too much good to stuff to imagine on ... BTW I may have already accidentally guessed at this.

  • 08.19.2010 8:36 PM PDT

This may be heresy, dearest brothers, but with Halo: Reach, Noble Team Plothole and that cringingly cheesy viDoc, I am really scared Bungie messed this up.

Halo 3 was a disaster (in my humblest of opinions, of course!) in every way for me with the mild exception of multi-player.

Am disappoint.

Am disappoint (again) that some people think Noble 6 is Spartan 117. This is mind boggling. What happened to fandom? Now I am scared people just blindly grope Bungie and worship all of their products as gold - just because it's them. As I begin to surround myself with hunter shields now, I would say they haven't quite reached Blizzard quality yet.

Blizzard's quality spans across consoles, but then there are some supreme and vast amount of hardcore Halo haters(don't know whether to count WoW haters- because of the fact it's an MMO, which garners flak regardless) . Why is this?

I sure hope I get to see a live action trailer to sustain my fire, which was nearly smothered by that cheddarfest viDoc.
Who told poor super gorgeous Jen Taylor to overact as Dr. Halsey? My poor baby...Oh well :(
Here's to a successful Halo Reach. I will be reading the updated Halo TFOR soon. I hope the cover art is a little nicer, since the original reminded me of a lame "Doom" novel, and I would like if Halo attracted some more fans. Keep the "bros" playing Call of Duty, please. I don't want an abundance of "SPARTIN117"s in a potential Halo MMO :P

The beta was far too impressive to be doubting the multi-player. That aspect is sound! Halo just needs to nail this single player. For me and my brothers!


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  • 08.19.2010 10:03 PM PDT
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Excellent summation! Everything you said is on point. Perhaps this conversation takes place before Reach is invaded. It's not like the UNSC didn't see the attack coming- they had over one hundred warships ready and waiting to defend Reach after the action on Cote d'Azur. They knew what was up, and so did Halsey. There is the slightest chance that Halsey knew of the Noble team without knowing their origins or their true purpose. She was rather adept at gathering intelligence. Perhaps they were her secret failsafe option for keeping the location of Earth safe when all else failed (she was also rather adept at coersion). My guess is she didn't know where the Spartans came from but she knew how to use them. That or Bungie just wanted to get the beautiful Jen Taylor in the recording booth one last time. :)

  • 08.19.2010 10:05 PM PDT

OMG!!!
I need it now

  • 08.20.2010 1:18 AM PDT

14 September the last Bungie present :o

  • 08.20.2010 6:12 AM PDT

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I know. I wish i could speed up time so reach will come out faster!

  • 08.20.2010 8:18 AM PDT

nice vedio good spartns

  • 08.20.2010 10:42 AM PDT

Spartans On The Ground (We got our 50 on!)
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Wow, okay, so Bungie completely took my idea. A couple weeks before this video came out, I made This Video. Their video takes the idea directly from mine. I made a character synopsis for people who were living under a rock, telling about the basic personalities of the members of noble team. I have to deserve something for this...

  • 08.20.2010 11:02 AM PDT