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Posted by: Radiant Elite
I think that she originally chooses Noble 6. But he dies and so she instead chooses the chief. This is why Cortana/Hasley Says about luck at the start of Halo 3. Because Chief survived Reach and Noble 6 didn't.
Incorrect. Read The Fall of Reach (excellent book). Cortana chose the Master Chief from the very beginning and no one else. Noble Team is an afterthought and this is the first mention of them ever. The whole team (except for Jorge) are also Spartan-IIIs which were basically super-soldiers massed-produced for cheap. They are neither as big, nor strong, fast, reflexive, etc. as Spartan-IIs (which is what Jorge is, and of course the Chief). S-IIIs didn't even have the shielded armor of the S-IIs.
Not only that, but Noble Team's simply being on Reach has got to be one of the biggest plot-holes by far, since the S-IIIs where a top secret ONI project that NO ONE, not even Halsey who was the creator of the S-II Program, knew about. There were three S-III groups throughout the course of the war: Alpha, Beta, and Gamma.
Alpha was completely wiped out in a suicide mission which was a key victory for humanity that no one would ever hear about (because if the public caught wind of a program that abducted children to train as cheaply mass-produced super soldiers for guaranteed suicide mission, there would be an outcry and morale would severely drop; also, humanity only had an estimated few months, which could possibly shrink to weeks, before they lost the war and were wiped out. Thus, S-IIIs "never existed." The planet of Onyx where the S-IIIs where trained was also top secret and "never existed."
Beta Company met the same fate but had only two survivors (hold this thought, I'm coming back to it).
The status of the current group, Gamma company, whether wiped out, scattered, or partly deployed, is unknown. However, Noble Team ARE NOT Gamma S-IIIs. If you look under "Games" on the home page and look up "Personnel," you'll see all the info on Noble Team including date of births, which shows them to be in their early twenties (except for Jorge who is about Forty). All S-III Gammas are about twelve years old (Spartans saw active duty at a young age). This would make the Beta Company survivors about twenty by the time Gamma Company was fit for active duty. But remember there were only two survivors, and they helped train the Gammas on Onyx (again, I'm coming back to this).
Thus, we have this group of S-IIIs (you being one of them) in the Halo: Reach game that have no explanation for their being there, or where they came from and how.
(For more on the Spartan-IIIs, see the novel Ghosts of Onyx by Eric Nylund--in fact, any Halo book with E. Nylund's name on it [including Fall of Reach], pick it up. His are the best by far.)
HOWEVER, despite what I have said thus far in the above paragraph about Beta and Gamma Companies, Bungie has provided an explanation for where Noble 6 and Kat come from. Again, if you look under "Games" on the home page and go to "Personnel" . . . aw frick it, look here:
http://www.bungie.net/projects/reach/article.aspx?ucc=personn el&cid=24040
This is a letter that the top trainer of the S-IIIs sent to his right hand man. In the first paragraph, he talks about how they were lucky to get S-312 (Noble 6) out of Beta Company (you'll see the Greek symbol for "Beta") immediately after training, and that they were "...lucky to get S-320 (Kat) out at all..."
Interestingly enough, Bungie has not provided an explanation for the rest of Noble Team. Hopefully they will.
As best as I can figure, the S-IIIs in Noble Team would have to be from Beta Company, but they only provide explanations for N6 and Kat. Until I can see some documented proof of where the rest came from, Noble Team is just a plot hole and an inconsistency in the Halo fiction.
READ THIS: At the part of the video when Hasley asks to see Noble team. At the point when it says "Carter, Noble 1" or whatever, it sounds just like Cortana (whereas Hasley's voice is slightly different in tone).
That's my opinion any way.
Possibly, but at any rate, this is just Bungie's way of formally introducing each member of Noble Team for the sake of the trailer. It's not like Cortana is deciding which Spartan would suit best to carry her. As I said, she chose the Master Chief from the very beginning. She explains this herself at the beginning of Halo 3.
Now with all this being said, I want to offer some friendly advice: it's helps to review material about the lore of something (especially if you know it's out there, and especially when it's considered part of the cannon, which the Halo books are) before speculating on a public forum about said fiction. :-)