Halo 1 & 2 for PC
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Subject: ATTENTION: Keep a great game a live! Do something NOW!
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There are plenty of die hard halo pc players that still love this game and really hate to see it go. We feel that we are left out from just about everyone. Did people forget about this game? Everyone is so busy with halo 2 and figured that they'd just forget about us halo pc fans. Yea we tried halo 2 and we didn't like it. What we're asking is for some sort of anti-cheat software to be released or any kind of update... rather then a -blam!- security update... to be released that would help us out. I don't think you understand how excited we are when we see halo pc on the bungie website instead of hearing about halo 2 24/7... or how excited we will be when an update will be released. The halo pc community jumped up for joy when 1.07 was released just because it showed us you guys didn't forget about us. Plenty of people still play this game and plenty of people still buy it. With a game full of hackers not many people will be playing it anymore and when people look for a pc game to buy they will see that halo pc is a game full of cheaters. Don't just look into preventing ways to stop cheaters in halo 2... Don't forget about the ones that have played this game from the start, the best gaming community I have ever seen. I know I'm just posting in public forums, but hopefully this can get to the right people and be atleast discussed. A working aimbot was released today to the public.... there are about 50 other hacks to this game and everyday that goes buy it only gets worse.

[Edited on 9/13/2005]

  • 09.13.2005 8:44 PM PDT
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people who play pc still always talk about the old days of halopc and how competitive it was and how clans would play because they liked the game and wanted to win money not a picture of a spinning trophey, most importantly they tlak about how halo was never like it is today, where a new hack can be created every hour of every day, halo and hacks were once never even crossed together but today it remains a lace ready to break, there were many hacks that were realesed that benefits one players greatly but they'd still ahve to do the hardest thing there is to do in halopc which is lead people.....now different versions of different aimbots have been released substituting skill for ignorance, so help this communtiy and help make these last months of halopc the best, create an anti-hack system to help prevent these fake agents that some unfortunately call skill......

  • 09.13.2005 8:59 PM PDT
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The best solution I can think of is to include punkbuster functionality. The trick is to have the patch containing it require a reinstall of the folders and files that could be use for cheating mods (wireframe, see thru walls, ect.), so save your precious mods before you get the patch. That way, if somebody with altered system files, or has programs running that interfere with halo (i hope firewalls don't count) tries to join a punkbuster server, they get immediately kicked or are prevented from joining in the first place.

Don't worry modders; you can disable punkbuster sever side on your modded servers to allow the casual, non-cheating use of mods.

If my experiences with Battlefield 2 are right, punkbuster also has some form of kick-vote system. It can be used via console commands, so the scoreboard interface doesn't have to be tampered with. I know, it could be abused, but it will keep more -blam!-tards out than innocent people. Face it, your auto-ban system has been rendered useless for a loooonnnng time; this is an important feature to me. It can be used to get afk's out so we get people that are actually playing on the servers.

  • 09.13.2005 9:11 PM PDT
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Although that sounds like a great idea I doubt it would work. Punk buster is costly if I'm not mistaken.

  • 09.13.2005 9:14 PM PDT
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if it was costly, Battlefield 2 would have cost more than the usual $50 for a fairly new game, now would it?

  • 09.13.2005 9:20 PM PDT
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pb would mean more than 10 minutes of work for a patch... which seems to be what they spend on halo pc for patches these days...

  • 09.14.2005 12:20 AM PDT
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Well, many of the players still playing consider this game dead now. This new working aimbot is like playing against some of the best players playing at the moment. It wasnt supposed to be released, but when it came down to it people with big egos and no friends decided to ruin the game for everyone. I could deal with bluewalls, wires, speedhacking, people shutting down servers mid match in order to get out of reporting, lying, slandering, corrupt admins, printscreening, ringers in matches, and whatever other hacks and terrible things they had could throw at me. But this puts it over my line, and now alot of the die hard fans ---- WHO HAVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 2 YEARS ---- are considering just quitting, like me.

  • 09.14.2005 11:29 AM PDT
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i did my post a few days ago, i have known about the creation of this for a while. never thought it would be released.

my post= http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=4756184

HaloPC 1.04 patch the aimbot does NOT work.

wireframers/bluewallers dont bother me. but aimbots... DO

FOX-MartZ0r¬.

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  • 09.14.2005 11:37 AM PDT
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Yeah B i know the feeling...been playing Halo for about 2 years now and it`s getting increasingly crap to play online,cheap bastars who TK to spoil for ppl,aimbots and all the nifty trinklets and such that these people use are making the game unplayable and horrible...i understand that Bungie is busy with Halo 3 or whatnot but that dose not justify:

a) no intrest and/or not looking into our chatter here on the forums...a few clicks ain`t so much to ask is it?

b) the no-show of Halo 2 PC...if bungie is to busy with Halo 3 xbox just give the source code to another game developer that takes stuff seriously like ID or Raven or heck even GearBox...sure they screwd the first one up but maybe they learned somthing and will make it right this time...

  • 09.14.2005 3:22 PM PDT
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I don't think Gearbox screwed up halo PC. Look at the wonders they did with CE. They just didn't have much to work with.

I agree to a lot of what's been said. This all goes to image. if you know support for a game will dry up in less than a year, why would you bother to buy it? I'm thoroughly unimpressed with security for this game, and i have lost interest in it. That sucks, because it was a great game. If no one ever cleans house those sticky floors make even the dirtiest person cringe.

But i'm not blaming Bungie. I blame MS. Bungie is now a division of Microsoft, so i may be actually smack two head with one post, but it's the Microsoft mentality that has seeped into this game: "Get it out now, get it working later; and when people start to B17c(-), give them a new program that promises to solve all their old problems...while throwing twice as many more into their PC."

It's a fight as old as DOS, and it's one i doubt we can win...
And then there came Linux.

[Edited on 9/15/2005]

  • 09.14.2005 6:36 PM PDT
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"And then there came Linux."

Wich changed what? few are the ones who use it,fewer still are the ones who can solve most of their problems on Windows letalone learn to use linux

  • 09.14.2005 7:40 PM PDT
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i can use linux, and i like it pretty well, i was just having trouble dual booting my computer and it led to massive problems that no one wants to experience :( so ive just given up on the risks. if i had a computer i used solely as a work computer i might use linux... as for my gaming computer...thats always been and will continue to be windows

  • 09.14.2005 10:00 PM PDT
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My point exactly

  • 09.14.2005 10:03 PM PDT
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You know, I was three paragraphs into my reply before I realised there was no reason to. As to that one sentence, the intention of it's insertion in my previous post was a reminder that we, as PC users, have choices. Good choices. Already Wal-mart is offering a prebuilt PC with a Linux OS for home users. The system's a piece of crud, but that's what most people seem to buy when they start in computers: a piece of junk that they don't care blows up a year down the road. If enough people "grow up" using Linux, Mac OS, or some other type of operating system, they'll be less inclined to follow the MS is best doctrine that's been fed to them for years.

And as for how it applied to the thread? If we have choices in our OS, the day will quickly come when we hve choices in our games (and the OS we choose to play them on). If you think about it, it's already here. Why buy Halo 2 if you know it won't be taken care of on PC when you can get a measure of control through the use of punkbuster in Battlefield 2?

Finally, i wish you'd have replied to the post, not one sentence. But if you don't like Linux, that's your choice. Nice to be able to say that, yes?

[Edited on 9/15/2005]

  • 09.15.2005 12:12 AM PDT
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Well i`m sorry i guess but i`m not into linux...i grew up witn -blam!- windows and am to much of a lazy bum to change :)...but as for halo 2...if it comes onto the PC i`ll buy it...for the story at least if it dose not well then to hell fith M$,Bungle and co.

I will continue to play Halo PC until it`s unplayable cause all we say and complain to bungie goes unread and gets no response what-so-ever!

Anyway i play plenty of other games so it`s not the end of the world...just the end of a damn great game,great stroy,concept...dream...whatever

  • 09.15.2005 9:45 AM PDT
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if microsoft had never bought bungie? would this even be happening? probably not. bungie has always been loyal to their pc fans and brought some great games like maraton and myth. halo was supposed to be something beutiful a different experience for pc players. then comes an evil ogre and kidnaps bungie. that ogre is called microsoft. im sorry if this offends anyone but microsoft has always only cared about themselves with contrast to bungie who has always cared about the fans. now that bungie is a sub division they have to get everything they want to do approved by microsoft it has been harder on them. i dont blame bungie. i blame microsoft. bungie is doing the best to keep us all happy but its nearly impossible to jump in the sky when a leash holds ou back. if i get blacklisted today it will be because i spoke my mind and the truth. thank you for your time.

  • 09.15.2005 2:25 PM PDT
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Just bought Halo Pc and feel in love with the story mode.When it came to multiplayer it was down right crazy. People modding like it's going out of style this inculdes cheating. Please don't get me started on aimbot. I got Halo PC because all my friends said multiplayer was a place were people coulded come and have a good time. Well to be honest this place no longer exist. Please Bungie fix this problem so noob's like me can have good time not a headach.!

  • 09.16.2005 1:45 AM PDT
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have you thought that microsoft/bungie/gearbox might not have evern seen our topics?

they probably dont know about this auto aim.

  • 09.16.2005 6:34 AM PDT
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That is some BS Bungie Should do what they do for Ghost Recon 2. They should scan all files that involve going to play multiplayer and ban the ip adresses of those who have those certain files. Please Bungie Help out the die hard players and newbies to the game. Please bring it back to the good old days.

  • 09.16.2005 3:47 PM PDT
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Please dont worry people, Halo 2 on PC will come out. Logics of business.

  • 09.16.2005 3:54 PM PDT
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ATTENTION: Bungie does not give a -blam!- about you. They do not care about what you say, do, think, or feel. Bungie never has and never will care about their customers.

  • 09.16.2005 5:55 PM PDT
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I recall them listening to their community with Marathon and several other games. In addition, they delivered what the majority asked for in Halo 2...

The problem is that the game is five years old, and they're focusing on newer games. Would you invest time in something new people will play, since most lose interest over time, or will you sit around in the past? It may be a weak comment, but few developers support their games for more than 3 years - even that is fairly lengthy.

Sh4rk, you really need to stop being an idiot and spamming.

  • 09.16.2005 6:03 PM PDT

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