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I really like the theory and wish it was true except for one thing... on page 244-245 of "the flood" the monitor specifically calls a dead marine in the library "the other reclaimer" so the theory of the monitor knowing the clone of the master chief can't hold true.

[Edited on 8/8/2004 9:30:36 PM]

  • 08.08.2004 9:30 PM PDT
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also the part where the monitor says that you need to upgrade your armor to class 12

  • 08.08.2004 9:31 PM PDT
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Nice PC

  • 08.08.2004 9:33 PM PDT

Posted by: vdpd2005
I really like the theory and wish it was true except for one thing... on page 244-245 of "the flood" the monitor specifically calls a dead marine in the library "the other reclaimer" so the theory of the monitor knowing the clone of the master chief can't hold true.



Nice try, but this has already been discussed in the original thread several times... you should have looked. Here's a quick run down:)



I believe that Sergent Marvin Mobuto (the guy you're talking about) to be more of a "mistakened Reclaimer" who is taken to the Library when the events of Halo (the game) take place, and not the Reclaimer that I refer to in my theory. Why? Well, there are others on Halo at the time of the events during the game who have suits of armor similar in fashion to the Spartan's Mark IV. Who you might ask... ODSTs.

We know from First Strike that there were ODST's on Halo, because the MC finds Locklear... the only ODST left of his squad. It is quite possible that this "other Reclaimer" spoken about in The Flood is an ODST, not a regular soldier, who was mistakened as a Spartan/MC:)

[color=red]ALSO[/color]

If there was a clone made of the MC who was sent to Halo by Ackerson, he would have surely been wearing some type of armor for protection. It wouldn't have been Mark IV armor though, because a clone of the MC wouldn't have the augmentation needed to wear Mark IV armor... the Spartans weren't born with super human abilities. So, what is the next best armor that is used by the UNSC... ODST armor. A cloned version of the MC would have been wearing the same armor as Sergeant Mobuto (the guy you're talking about).

To add to this, we know that Sergent Marvin Mobuto was wearing a suit of armor, because 343 GS refers to him as wearing a "less effective combat skin" than the MC's armor. The only suit of armor that fits this profile is an ODST suit of armor. Normal soldiers do not wear "suits of armor/combat skins". They just have a helmet and some bullet proof (same thing as ballistic:) armor covering their vital organ areas.


Here is a question for you:)

If Sergent Marvin Mobuto is the actual former Reclaimer, then why does 343 GS say this to the MC: [color=white]"Last time,[/color] [color=red]YOU[/color] [color=white]asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed.[/color] Clearly 343 GS is associting the MC with a former Reclaimer. Someone other than Sergent Marvin Mobuto, who is dead:)



-Eagle 117

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You should have posted this in the original thread instead of starting a new one:)

[Edited on 8/8/2004 10:01:51 PM]

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well first off the old thread is who knows where... could have come off the last page of topics.

And if you're saying that he mistook Sergent Marvin Mobuto for the cloned MC, then how did he recognize the originial MC in Mark IV armor?

  • 08.08.2004 10:02 PM PDT

Posted by: vdpd2005
well first off the old thread is who knows where... could have come off the last page of topics.

And if you're saying that he mistook Sergent Marvin Mobuto for the cloned MC, then how did he recognize the originial MC in Mark IV armor?



First off, if you had looked, then you would have noticed the "old thread" is still up and running. As a matter of fact, it was on the first page a few times today... it should only be a couple pages back:)

Secondly, I'm not saying that 343 GS mistook Sergent Marvin Mobuto for the MC; but rather, he mistook him for someone equally as "capable" as the MC. 343 GS obviously sees a difference between Mobuto and the Chief, because 343 GS ask's the Chief, "[color=white]"Last time,[/color] [color=red]YOU[/color] [color=white]asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed.[/color]."

Now, I don't know how 343 GS recognizes the MC in Mark IV armor, BUT the quote above clearly shows that 343 GS does recognize the MC from sometime in the past:)

You forgot to answer my question:)

-Eagle 117

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lol eagle, I think everyone should just lay off and let all the big boys talk... :)

  • 08.08.2004 10:22 PM PDT
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oh sorry guess you must have edited it after I started typing a reply... I'm not saying that the Sgt is the original reclaimer, and it couldn't be because GS says "having had considerable time to ponder your query" he means the hundreds of thousands of years since the last activation of halo. I'm not saying he's referring to the MC either... it could have been anybody in my opinion... possibly a belief of the forerunners that the next time halo would be activated it would be done by the reencarnation of the original avtivator.

This is far-fetched but, maybe Kelly and Haverson got a hold of one of those time/space displacing crystals and went to the past (hundreds of thousands of years ago) to halo and set it off back then. So he mistook MC for Kelley in the same armor. I know this isn't the perfect theory, just a guess

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Posted by: Chaplain
lol eagle, I think everyone should just lay off and let all the big boys talk... :)


bet you feel special now loser

  • 08.08.2004 10:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Egyptian Jackal
Posted by: Chaplain
lol eagle, I think everyone should just lay off and let all the big boys talk... :)


bet you feel special now loser


if you're talkin bout eagle, what has he done, we're just discussing the possibilities of the story of Halo 2

  • 08.08.2004 10:37 PM PDT