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Subject: Glad Pistol is gone?
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Poll: Are you glad that the pistol is gone?  [closed]
Yes:  50%
(19 Votes)
No:  50%
(19 Votes)
Total Votes: 38

Before I start a few rules,

1. DONT FLAME ME BECAUSE I DONT LIKE THE PISTOL
If you disagree please say so and give me a reason why, dont spam "omg n00b"

2. I'm not saying I dont like the pistol cause i think Halo should be extremly realistic, so dont flame me for that either please

3. Dont get TOO far away from the topic of if your glad the pistol is gone or not

Ok, Im glad that the pistol is gone. When I get on XBconnect I get into some blood gulch games sometimes and i just get spawn camped by the pistol from some guy on a ledge over and over and over. It gets annoying and boring. So eventually I got off and decided "lets see what the folks at bungie think of this" and well, here is my post. Go ahead and answer as you wish but follow the rules please. Have fun.

[Edited on 8/8/2004 11:28:59 PM]

  • 08.08.2004 11:27 PM PDT
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Its not gone, its toned down to be more balanced. Its got 10 rounds instead of 12, I think this was in the mlg article.

[Edited on 8/8/2004 11:30:57 PM]

  • 08.08.2004 11:30 PM PDT
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I need a weapon.

Posted by: Evilpoo
Its not gone, its toned down to be more balanced. Its got 10 rounds instead of 12, I think this was in the mlg article.


how dense r u? the MLG article said NOTHING of the pistol. The pistol has only been specualted about, it has not been confirmed or denied. The closest thing to a "new pistol" thats been confirmed is the battle rifle. Thank you and goodnight

  • 08.08.2004 11:34 PM PDT
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There is no confirmation that the pistol is either in or out, but it will more than likely be in but in a lesser form than in Halo: CE. If you're getting spawn camped at BG, here is some suggestions..

1: Melee when you spawn and strafe right off, don't stand there like a dumbass. If you melee when you spawn it ducks your head, makes it harder to score headshots.

2: Learn how to use the pistol, if someone spawn rapes me the next time I go right at them and 9 times out of 10 I kill them.

3: Don't play BG, it's for n00bs, play a map worth playing. BG is only good for snipers only battles and no Elite player alive likes the map, then again no Elite player likes vehicles either so whatever you like.

Do not dis the pistol cause you get spawn raped or because someone is better than you with it. Players who play in tournaments, go out and advertise Halo, and are a lot more important than you, want the pistol in so it will probably be in. I respec the fact that you don't like the gun but it's more than likely cause you blow balls with it and can't outpistol anyone you've played with. You also need to understand if you are joining on XBC you have a 2 shot lag over the host. In other words it could take him 3 where it would take you 5, it's called pistol lag. So practice cause it will be in Halo 2 and if it isn't another gun that will require as much skill will be in that you will get owned with, so just practice. Don't dis something because you get raped by it, just get good enough you stop getting raped because it's gonna be happening in Halo 2 as well. The spawns will be a bit more random and you won't be raped as much then, but that will have nothing to do with the pistol being in or out. I spawn -blam!- a lot more with the sniper than the pistol, most good players do, so please don't say you want them to take the sniper out too. Saying you don't like something because someone rapes you with it just makes you sound like a n00b.


PS: If someone is spawn camping you with a PISTOL instead of a SNIPER at a map like Blood Gulch, from a ledge even.. then they suck and you should be able to stop them pretty easy.



[Edited on 8/8/2004 11:44:24 PM]

  • 08.08.2004 11:40 PM PDT
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Either way, I'm happy as long as the battle rifle has scoped single shot ;]

Im sure it will bear a striking resemblance to the pistol. well I hope..

  • 08.08.2004 11:43 PM PDT
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The scoped single shot on the battle rifle will require something like 8 shots to kill where as the non-zoomed phase will require three burst to the head to kill. This is confirmed by someone who played in the demo at Zanzibar. So I hope the pistol is still in, as did the guy who played the game at Zanzibar. The Battle Rifle will be a nice beginning weapon tho, should fit in well with more weapon choices in Halo 2.

  • 08.08.2004 11:45 PM PDT
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AHhhhh I have to retype this whole thing because I wanted to see what "Quote" did exactly

I didn't like the pistol actually because it was way too powerful. I had hoped they would would fix it in Halo 2, but instead they are just replacing it and the assault rifle with completely diffirent weapons to balance out the game. Like for instance I hoped they would make the pistol alot weaker and as a sidearm. Like you press a diffirent button to bring it out. Or it automaticly comes out when you are out of ammo on the gun you are using and you don't switch or something I don't know. And (kind of off topic) I hoped they would up the caliber of the assault rifle so it was actually usefull against more things than the Flood infection forms and masses of grunts.

My first post ever :) How'd I do? Oh sorry I forgot to actually answer the question. No I am not glad the Pistol is gone. The storyline is all messed up now that the standard-issue MA5B assault rifle and M6D pistol are gone and the battle rifle and smg have appeared out of nowhere...

  • 08.08.2004 11:48 PM PDT
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I'm glad it's gone cause it's going to be replaced by the battle riffle which will be better.

  • 08.08.2004 11:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: shadedhalo
The scoped single shot on the battle rifle will require something like 8 shots to kill where as the non-zoomed phase will require three burst to the head to kill. This is confirmed by someone who played in the demo at Zanzibar. So I hope the pistol is still in, as did the guy who played the game at Zanzibar. The Battle Rifle will be a nice beginning weapon tho, should fit in well with more weapon choices in Halo 2.


Hmm i didint know that,

  • 08.08.2004 11:49 PM PDT
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The pistol being a side-arm is simply dumb, who cares if it is realistic? It wasn't too powerful in Halo: CE beacuse it filled voids left by other weapons. Without the pistol only the sniper would have been a long range weapon, and only a couple more would be at midrange.

Also the AR is a very nice weapon if you know how to use it, at close range in Multiplayer it's second only to the Shotgun. The Battle Rifle is not replacing anything and it will not be that dominate, it'll be a starting weapon that can't be dual wielded so it's a bit underrated. I do feel the pistol will be in Halo 2, it will be weakened, possibly with the clip being shrank to 10 and the scope being removed but Halo would not be Halo without the pistol, and if you disagree with that then you are simply an idiot and do not understand the game.

  • 08.08.2004 11:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: skum4182
how dense r u? the MLG article said NOTHING of the pistol. The pistol has only been specualted about, it has not been confirmed or denied. The closest thing to a "new pistol" thats been confirmed is the battle rifle. Thank you and goodnight


How dense are you? Thats why I said I think it was the mlg article, I couldnt remember were I saw that, I remember now, It was an article about someone playing the beta and them seeing the pistol in in and the beta wasnt the zanzabar beta. Dont call me dense read my post before you flame.

  • 08.08.2004 11:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: MANTI5
Hey guess what? The pistol is back! It's now called the Magnum, it has NO zoom and fires 10 shots-per-clip, and it's black too.


Thank you exactly what I was talking about until I got flamed by Skum.

  • 08.09.2004 12:11 AM PDT
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Don't post things about the pistol having 10 shots and say it's for sure, it's speculation. I am sure you've read it in a post somewhere but don't say it's for sure unless you have proof. Do you have proof?

  • 08.09.2004 12:13 AM PDT
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I do

  • 08.09.2004 12:24 AM PDT
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Hey Shade, get over yourself for a second, eh?

The Magnum sounds good, but no comfirmed screenshots but alot of people say it's there.

Am I glad the Pistol is gone? Sure, it seems dumb and lame in alot of ways, even though I use it so much. The Battle Rifle is the perfect replacement.

  • 08.09.2004 12:27 AM PDT
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From what i'v played in the Halo 2 beta, the Magnum has 12 shots, it's semi auto, and has no scope. as Pete Parsons Said "No comment", so even though that is what is in the beta. everything is still subject to change. at this point, nothing is perminant

  • 08.09.2004 12:29 AM PDT
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errrr stupid slow post...:-\

[Edited on 8/9/2004 12:31:30 AM]

  • 08.09.2004 12:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: shadedhalo
The pistol being a side-arm is simply dumb, who cares if it is realistic? It wasn't too powerful in Halo: CE beacuse it filled voids left by other weapons. Without the pistol only the sniper would have been a long range weapon, and only a couple more would be at midrange.

Also the AR is a very nice weapon if you know how to use it, at close range in Multiplayer it's second only to the Shotgun. The Battle Rifle is not replacing anything and it will not be that dominate, it'll be a starting weapon that can't be dual wielded so it's a bit underrated. I do feel the pistol will be in Halo 2, it will be weakened, possibly with the clip being shrank to 10 and the scope being removed but Halo would not be Halo without the pistol, and if you disagree with that then you are simply an idiot and do not understand the game.



I can see your an expert at this stuff. Lol maybe not and if you are you are still an ***hole. I dont really care if the pistol is a side arm or not I was thinking of a way it would be usefull as a realistic weapon. this game is more "realistic" than most other FPS so of course people would care if a pistol (M6D, not golden gun) could kill you in one shot to the head when you are wearing MJOLNIR armor, of which every single online and offline player is.

What kind of a weapon have you heard of that was good at long range that was not a sniper rifle? besides the overpowered pistol in Halo.
Also the assault rifle is a laugh on the PC. i seriously think they downgraded it for the port. On xbox I know how to use it and i use it quite efficiently, but not on the computer version. All the other guns I am good with for PC but not the assault rifle. Anyways the assault rifle is still too weak the only reason I can use it without constantly dying is from 3 years practice with it as my favorite weapon for storyline purposes. The battle rifle IS replacing the pistol and assault rifle. Between the battle rifle and smg they are kind of mixmatching the attributes of both weapons to make them more balanced.

and despite all this arguing I am still particially agreeing with you, shadedhalo, Halo 2 needs the pistol, however weaker it may be

PS i was just reviewing the forum again to make sure I didnt miss anything. I highly doubt there will be anything like a magnum to replace the pistol. if anything it would get stronger. although those changed might be good for the original m6d but I still doubt it will be put back into the game.
Spriggan087 i have never heard of a magnum before, and i dont really want to it sounds like another one of those "way off rumors," no offense

[Edited on 8/9/2004 12:33:01 AM]

  • 08.09.2004 12:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: Whisp Kenobi
The storyline is all messed up now that the standard-issue MA5B assault rifle and M6D pistol are gone and the battle rifle and smg have appeared out of nowhere...


The Battle Rifle and SMG were introduced in First Stike Along with the Magnum, but the Magnum hasn't been confirmed by Bungie.

[Edited on 8/9/2004 12:40:39 AM]

  • 08.09.2004 12:38 AM PDT
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The SMG wasn't even in the book was it?
Doh, i didn't see your post Dark Flame, sorry

[Edited on 8/9/2004 12:45:34 AM]

  • 08.09.2004 12:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: DarkFlame

The Battle Rifle and SMG were introduced in First Stike Along with the Magnum, but the Magnum hasn't been confirmed by Bungie.



Your right. I haven't read the first strike in awhile but I still don't remember how they got them. Maybe its simply been too long or maybe they don't explain it I will find out when I reread it eh?

EDIT: But that still doesn't explain how the MA5B and M6D have disappeared in first strike? (not sure again I haven't read it in awhile) and Halo 2

[Edited on 8/9/2004 12:53:44 AM]

  • 08.09.2004 12:51 AM PDT
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Damn. The pistol was my favorite weapon. I could get a head shot from across the map. One of my best weapon combos was the Plasma Pistol and the M6D. Ah well. I guess I can adapt to the new weapons set.

  • 08.09.2004 1:21 AM PDT
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I'm kinda glad it's gone. I don't mind it so much, even I used it. but when someone pulls the pistol out in a sniper game, it takes all the fun out of sniping. Maybe this time we can have real sniper games.

  • 08.09.2004 2:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: skum4182
Posted by: Evilpoo
Its not gone, its toned down to be more balanced. Its got 10 rounds instead of 12, I think this was in the mlg article.


how dense r u? the MLG article said NOTHING of the pistol. The pistol has only been specualted about, it has not been confirmed or denied. The closest thing to a "new pistol" thats been confirmed is the battle rifle. Thank you and goodnight


actually.. no skum the closest thing to the pistol would be the magnum calibur pistol in the book 'first strike' if you read it you would know which one im talking about.. i suspect that pistol will be making a debute in halo 2, because bungie wouldve denied the 'pistol in halo 2' theory already if it wasnt

[Edited on 8/9/2004 2:37:55 AM]

  • 08.09.2004 2:37 AM PDT

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