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  • 08.26.2010 8:40 PM PDT

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BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Not yet.

Microsoft has plans to release a big title update and to remake Halo 2 for Xbox 360.

Features:

Cross-platform play - Halo 2 PC with Halo 2 "360" users
Same game, same achievements
Cross-DLC - PC players and 360 users may host and share content
32 players for dedicated servers
Online co-op, peer-hosted and dedicated servers
Theater
Upgraded Dedicated servers
Fixed H2EK, with features to create custom campaign maps
Race and Headhunter brought back
Optimized for more efficient GPU usage
Optimized for more efficient CPU usage
Optimized for more efficient Memory usage

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[Edited on 08.27.2010 7:37 AM PDT]

  • 08.27.2010 7:29 AM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!


Posted by: Shock120
Not yet.

Microsoft has plans to release a big title update and to remake Halo 2 for Xbox 360.

Features:

Cross-platform play - Halo 2 PC with Halo 2 "360" users
Same game, same achievements
Cross-DLC - PC players and 360 users may host and share content
32 players for dedicated servers
Online co-op, peer-hosted and dedicated servers
Theater
Upgraded Dedicated servers
Fixed H2EK, with features to create custom campaign maps
Race and Headhunter brought back
Optimized for more efficient GPU usage
Optimized for more efficient CPU usage
Optimized for more efficient Memory usage

...

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yeah... not going to happen. Since when does Microsoft ever re-release old games?

  • 08.27.2010 5:01 PM PDT

Since never.

  • 08.27.2010 5:36 PM PDT

My Youtube - Halo 2 Online Co-op
BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: Shock120
Not yet.

Microsoft has plans to release a big title update and to remake Halo 2 for Xbox 360.

Features:

Cross-platform play - Halo 2 PC with Halo 2 "360" users
Same game, same achievements
Cross-DLC - PC players and 360 users may host and share content
32 players for dedicated servers
Online co-op, peer-hosted and dedicated servers
Theater
Upgraded Dedicated servers
Fixed H2EK, with features to create custom campaign maps
Race and Headhunter brought back
Optimized for more efficient GPU usage
Optimized for more efficient CPU usage
Optimized for more efficient Memory usage

...
[url=http:// ^ If you think that will happen you need a new brain.] [ /url]
...
It's funny how you guys missed this. xD

  • 08.27.2010 7:59 PM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!


Posted by: Shock120
Posted by: Shock120
Not yet.

Microsoft has plans to release a big title update and to remake Halo 2 for Xbox 360.

Features:

Cross-platform play - Halo 2 PC with Halo 2 "360" users
Same game, same achievements
Cross-DLC - PC players and 360 users may host and share content
32 players for dedicated servers
Online co-op, peer-hosted and dedicated servers
Theater
Upgraded Dedicated servers
Fixed H2EK, with features to create custom campaign maps
Race and Headhunter brought back
Optimized for more efficient GPU usage
Optimized for more efficient CPU usage
Optimized for more efficient Memory usage

...
[url=http:// ^ If you think that will happen you need a new brain.] [ /url]
...
It's funny how you guys missed this. xD


lol

  • 08.28.2010 11:01 AM PDT
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Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Halo 2 PC should be buried. It's garbage, and an affront to decent gamers.

  • 08.28.2010 11:49 AM PDT

My Youtube - Halo 2 Online Co-op
BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: n357
Halo 2 PC should be buried. It's garbage, and an affront to decent gamers.
Burn in Hell Halo 2 Vista!

  • 08.28.2010 11:53 AM PDT

WAT is this i dont even

whats wrong with halo2pc
I have it its decent has SOME glitches that could be easily fixed if they even tried. I play it all the time since there are people who still play it. I run it at full settings just fine

  • 08.28.2010 12:10 PM PDT
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Er, perhaps if they fixed it? Nobody deserves having to buy H2V without knowing what they're getting into. :(

  • 08.28.2010 4:30 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Shock120
Posted by: n357
Halo 2 PC should be buried. It's garbage, and an affront to decent gamers.
Burn in Hell Halo 2 Vista!

Then just give up h2v, and co-op mod other games.

  • 08.28.2010 4:44 PM PDT


Posted by: n357
Halo 2 PC should be buried. It's garbage, and an affront to decent gamers.
Halo 2 was the most epic Halo game of them all. Halo 3 was alright but left room for no epic ending and instead put one stupid ending. Halo 2 forever!

  • 08.28.2010 6:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: ULTAMATE POWER

Posted by: n357
Halo 2 PC should be buried. It's garbage, and an affront to decent gamers.
Halo 2 was the most epic Halo game of them all. Halo 3 was alright but left room for no epic ending and instead put one stupid ending. Halo 2 forever!


Your posts gave me the impression that you'd never played Halo 1.

  • 08.28.2010 6:48 PM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!


Posted by: Btcc22

Posted by: ULTAMATE POWER

Posted by: n357
Halo 2 PC should be buried. It's garbage, and an affront to decent gamers.
Halo 2 was the most epic Halo game of them all. Halo 3 was alright but left room for no epic ending and instead put one stupid ending. Halo 2 forever!


Your posts gave me the impression that you'd never played Halo 1.


No, i agree with him somewhat. Although I don't think Halo 2 is the best. I think Halo 3 is the best. However, that opinion will probably change when Halo: Reach comes out.

I've played the beta of Halo: Reach and already I think the multiplayer is awesome. Much better than Halo 3 or Halo 2. Halo 1's multiplayer was terrible compared to newer games. As for the campaign, Halo: Reach looks like it has the best storyline.

Everything about Halo: Reach looks awesome.

Anyways, about Halo 2 PC. I think it's a great game for the PC. I wish it had Halo 2 Xbox's matchmaking system or even Halo 3's matchmaking system, but oh well. I really don't see what's so bad about the port except for it's map editor and lack of support from Microsoft or Bungie.

I've been in these forums awhile and it seems the biggest controversy about Halo 2 PC was that it was a Windows Vista exclusive. Not many people took that too well. People refused the simple solution of simply upgrading to Windows Vista. I mean, come on, what's so bad about Windows Vista? It's a great OS. It's secure, has tons of awesome features, and looks cool (Windows Aero). All the claims of Windows Vista running slow and taking up too much system resources are absurd. It's not the OS's problem, it's people's computers being too slow. It's like Windows 95 owners saying Windows XP takes up too much resources on their computers. Now with Windows 7 out, people say it's great even though it's almost exactly the same as Windows Vista.

As far as Games on Demand goes, Halo 2 Vista should be included on it. But the problem is that it needs to be fixed first. There seems to be some kind of compatibility problem between Windows 7 64-bit and Games For Windows Live games. I'm getting this info from the Games For Windows forums. Basically a lot of people have reported problems getting Games For Windows Live games like Halo 2 PC working in Windows 7.

So until Microsoft fixes these problems, Halo 2 PC won't be in Games on Demand, and Windows Vista will remain the superior gaming OS in terms of Games For Windows Live games.

  • 08.28.2010 7:10 PM PDT


^100% agree with above post

Posted by: seanpownage123
should Halo 2 Pc we able to be purchased off of Game For Windows live???


Yes, yes it should.

  • 08.28.2010 7:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: General Heed
I've been in these forums awhile and it seems the biggest controversy about Halo 2 PC was that it was a Windows Vista exclusive. Not many people took that too well. People refused the simple solution of simply upgrading to Windows Vista. I mean, come on, what's so bad about Windows Vista? It's a great OS. It's secure, has tons of awesome features, and looks cool (Windows Aero). All the claims of Windows Vista running slow and taking up too much system resources are absurd. It's not the OS's problem, it's people's computers being too slow. It's like Windows 95 owners saying Windows XP takes up too much resources on their computers. Now with Windows 7 out, people say it's great even though it's almost exactly the same as Windows Vista.


You're saying that people should have gone out and purchased a new operating system for the sake of playing a half baked port? Now that's playing into Microsoft's hands since the sole reason for it being restricted to Vista was to sell the OS as opposed to say, some technical restriction that made the game better in some form. It wouldn't surprise me if the game was intended to be a loss leader from the get go. Port it quickly with minimal effort and hope people buy Vista for it.

As for Vista being a good O.S., I'm afraid I have to disagree. If a PC is running slowly then it's generally the fault of the software running on it. The operating system for example.

  • 08.28.2010 7:43 PM PDT

WAT is this i dont even

halo2 vista runs on 7 btw. id never buy the horrible -blam!- that is vista

  • 08.28.2010 7:45 PM PDT

My Youtube - Halo 2 Online Co-op
BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: JacobGRocks
Then just give up h2v, and co-op mod other games.
I was j/k. xD
I ain't giving up until I have something concrete, and releasable.
Posted by: General Heed
Anyways, about Halo 2 PC. I think it's a great game for the PC. I wish it had Halo 2 Xbox's matchmaking system or even Halo 3's matchmaking system, but oh well. I really don't see what's so bad about the port except for it's map editor and lack of support from Microsoft or Bungie.

I've been in these forums awhile and it seems the biggest controversy about Halo 2 PC was that it was a Windows Vista exclusive. Not many people took that too well. People refused the simple solution of simply upgrading to Windows Vista. I mean, come on, what's so bad about Windows Vista? It's a great OS. It's secure, has tons of awesome features, and looks cool (Windows Aero). All the claims of Windows Vista running slow and taking up too much system resources are absurd. It's not the OS's problem, it's people's computers being too slow. It's like Windows 95 owners saying Windows XP takes up too much resources on their computers. Now with Windows 7 out, people say it's great even though it's almost exactly the same as Windows Vista.

As far as Games on Demand goes, Halo 2 Vista should be included on it. But the problem is that it needs to be fixed first. There seems to be some kind of compatibility problem between Windows 7 64-bit and Games For Windows Live games. I'm getting this info from the Games For Windows forums. Basically a lot of people have reported problems getting Games For Windows Live games like Halo 2 PC working in Windows 7.

So until Microsoft fixes these problems, Halo 2 PC won't be in Games on Demand, and Windows Vista will remain the superior gaming OS in terms of Games For Windows Live games.
I guess they should release one last update, if they want this game to sell on Games on Demand.

We need Windows 7 full compatibility.
Bring back multiplayer map images.
H2EK made to be H2EK.
Fix the damn netcode (+ online co-op)
Some optimization code for any hardware.

[Edited on 08.28.2010 8:57 PM PDT]

  • 08.28.2010 8:13 PM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!


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Posted by: General Heed
I've been in these forums awhile and it seems the biggest controversy about Halo 2 PC was that it was a Windows Vista exclusive. Not many people took that too well. People refused the simple solution of simply upgrading to Windows Vista. I mean, come on, what's so bad about Windows Vista? It's a great OS. It's secure, has tons of awesome features, and looks cool (Windows Aero). All the claims of Windows Vista running slow and taking up too much system resources are absurd. It's not the OS's problem, it's people's computers being too slow. It's like Windows 95 owners saying Windows XP takes up too much resources on their computers. Now with Windows 7 out, people say it's great even though it's almost exactly the same as Windows Vista.


You're saying that people should have gone out and purchased a new operating system for the sake of playing a half baked port? Now that's playing into Microsoft's hands since the sole reason for it being restricted to Vista was to sell the OS as opposed to say, some technical restriction that made the game better in some form. It wouldn't surprise me if the game was intended to be a loss leader from the get go. Port it quickly with minimal effort and hope people buy Vista for it.

As for Vista being a good O.S., I'm afraid I have to disagree. If a PC is running slowly then it's generally the fault of the software running on it. The operating system for example.


Aside from boot times, Windows 7 runs at almost the same speed as Windows Vista on the same hardware. In fact, Windows 7 has higher minimum requirements than Windows Vista which explains why it may be faster.

I think there actually is a technical reason why Halo 2 PC is a Windows Vista exclusive. DirectX 10 at the time was only available on Windows Vista. Now I'm not sure if Halo 2 PC was a DirectX 10 game, but there are many other Games For Windows Live Games that are DirectX 10. Microsoft didn't release DirectX 10 for Windows XP for the same reason they didn't release DirectX 11 for Windows XP. It's an obsolete OS. Even when Halo 2 Vista came out, Windows XP was on its way to being obsolete.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Windows Vista. I blue-screened more in Windows XP than I did in Windows Vista. Windows XP slows down over time. So far, Windows Vista has not slowed down and I'm running on obsolete hardware too (Dell XPS M1530, Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, nVidia GeForce 8400M GS) for years.

You see, if a PC is running slowly, it's because the hardware is not enough to handle the new software. What you're saying is the same as saying that Windows XP is a terrible operating system because it runs so slowly on a computer that used to run Windows 95 perfectly.

Why don't people get the fact that newer OS's will always have higher system requirements? The reason people like Windows 7 better is because it was released at the right moment when people finally decided to get new PC's that had newer hardware. But trust me, if Windows Vista was never released, and if Windows 7 as we have it today, was released when Vista was supposed to be released, it would get the exact same bad rep as Vista did. The reason is because Windows 7 is the exact same as Windows Vista. Under the hood, everything is the same. The features you get in Windows 7 are nothing special or exclusive. They are all backwards compatible with Windows Vista. Take Windows Media Player 12. It's supposedly a Windows 7 exclusive, but it works in Vista by simply copying and pasting the Windows Media Player folder into Vista.

Therefore, I maintain that Windows Vista is a great OS and the best for gaming at the moment. I know Halo 2 PC works in Windows 7, but since 64-bit is starting to become popular, many people are reporting issues getting Halo 2 Vista to work in 64-bit editions of Windows 7. In fact, many Games For Windows Live games have issues in Windows 7. As a result, Windows Vista is still the best gaming platform in terms of compatibility.

  • 08.28.2010 9:02 PM PDT
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Halo 2 doesn't even use DX10 and if it did, it still wouldn't be an excuse not to work on XP. I thought this argument was laid to rest a couple of years ago.

DX10 wasn't held back from XP because of it being an obsolete OS, it's because they wanted something that'd make Vista look worthwhile. They tried to pull the same trick with IE7 initially and later realised that they couldn't just leave XP with IE6. With a market share of ~50%, XP still isn't obsolete several years after the release of H2V.

  • 08.28.2010 9:24 PM PDT

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Halo 2 doesn't even use DX10 and if it did, it still wouldn't be an excuse not to work on XP. I thought this argument was laid to rest a couple of years ago.

DX10 wasn't held back from XP because of it being an obsolete OS, it's because they wanted something that'd make Vista look worthwhile. They tried to pull the same trick with IE7 initially and later realised that they couldn't just leave XP with IE6. With a market share of ~50%, XP still isn't obsolete several years after the release of H2V.


At the time DX10 became available, Windows XP was almost out of its mainstream support phase. It's the same reason Windows Defender or Microsoft Silverlight wasn't released for Windows 2000. Windows XP was pretty much obsolete by the time DX10 was released.

If Microsoft really held back DX10, H2V, and attempted to hold back IE7 from Windows Xp for the purpose of promoting Windows Vista, then why didn't they hold back DX11 or IE9 from Windows Vista? Surely Microsoft would want to promote Windows 7 and make it look better right? Well the reason why they didn't do that is because Windows Vista is not obsolete yet nor is it even close to being obsolete. Windows Vista still has years of mainstream support unlike Windows XP at the time Halo 2 PC was released. That's why DX10 wasn't available for Windows XP.

The fact that Windows 7 exists is proof that Windows Vista won't be obsolete for awhile. In case you haven't noticed, Windows Vista is 100% forward-compatible with Windows 7 exclusive programs like Windows Media Player 12.

Windows 7 is pretty much the same as Windows Vista with a few minor graphical differences. And by minor, I mean really subtle differences. Only the taskbar and startup screen are the only notable differences. Windows 7 even has the same startup sound as Windows Vista. Essentially, Windows 7 is just Windows Vista. All Microsoft did was change the name of Windows Vista and tried to sell that as a new OS.

Whoever hates Windows Vista but likes Windows 7 are hypocrites. They are the same. If you like one, then you like both. If you hate one, then you hate both. You can't like one or the other. It's like choosing between a two sheets of copy paper. They're the same.

  • 08.28.2010 10:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: General Heed
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By citing the mainstream support cycle as a reason for not upgrading XP you're in essence agreeing with me when I say they did it to get people to upgrade. Where's the money in just upgrading a perfectly fine O.S.?

I don't see why you're calling an OS that has ~55% market share and that's still actively being supported obsolete. XP most certainly is not obsolete unless you'r building a new machine and want to take advantage of higher RAM capacity limits or newer versions of DirectX, although 64 bit XP supports up to 12GB. Most people aren't technical and won't see the need to change O.S. for the sake of having a slightly prettier GUI (can be remedied) for their word processing and emails.

I have Vista on a laptop that's of a slightly higher spec than my desktop yet it runs a heck of a lot slower, even after my extensive tweaking. On my desktop though I've managed to keep the same installation of XP running at a good speed (read: way faster than a clean Vista install) for around five and a half years and it's stable enough to stay on for months without needing rebooted. Having said that, I go out of my way to fix issues and I'll admit that I've had to do it a fair few times, but Vista hasn't been any better.

Posted by: General Heed
I don't think that's true. Vista marketshare is over 20% back in 2008. I don't know about it's current marketshare, but I'm sure it went up significantly.


July 2010
Win7 - 20.6%
Vista - 10.9%
Win2003 - 1.3%
WinXP - 54.6%
W2000 - 0.4%

Taking other operating systems into account, that gives XP around 61% of the share of Windows installations.

Source. Wikipedia's gathered stats.


[Edited on 08.29.2010 5:30 AM PDT]

  • 08.29.2010 5:12 AM PDT

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Sapphire just got even more awesome.

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Posted by: General Heed
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OMG!

I thought I explained it well enough before. I guess you missed my post.

Windows 7 & Vista are close to the same now? Alrighty then...
I guess you really have no idea what you are talking about...

EDIT: Lol, thanks Btcc.



[Edited on 08.29.2010 5:22 AM PDT]

  • 08.29.2010 5:16 AM PDT

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