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Subject: Video Games responsible for violence? HECK NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Poll: Are video games responsible for violence?  [closed]
Yes, ban them all! They are the source of it!:  0%
(0 Votes)
No, blaming video game companies is not fair!:  74%
(20 Votes)
Just ban the crappy games ;):  19%
(5 Votes)
Undecided:  7%
(2 Votes)
Total Votes: 27

In recent times, many bad things have happened and are being blamed on video games and the people that make them. Like when that kid in the UK killed some people supposedly because of the game Manhunt. Or when just the other day six people were murdered due to a stolen Xbox.

Well, blaming video games is a very uninformed and poor choice to make.

I'll admit, Manhunt is pretty gruesome and gory, but it did NOT tell that kid to commit that murder. Saying that video games are responsible for murder is exactly like saying matches are responsible for arson. The parents are using it as a scapegoat for his actions because there was obviously something drastically wrong with his upbringing. If something such as a video game was enough to push a child over the edge, there was seriously something wrong with the child and the parents should have seen it and not bought him the game. Even so, he was "obsessed" with Manhunt, and Manhunt really sucked. So the parents just could have bought him a descent game, and then he would have been obsessed with Crimson Skies and grown up to become a pilot in the Air Force, for example.

A guy killed six people over a stolen xbox is a huge deal to the media. They are now saying that the xbox is responsible for his anger, and are now encouraging people to not get them anymore. WRONG! People get killed for stealing money from others, so should we ban all forms of currency? I didn't think so.

But, seriously, think about it. If that kid (the murderer) was that disturbed, if it wasn't the game, something else would've set him off and he would've killed somebody else anyway.

So what do you guys think?

  • 08.09.2004 1:30 PM PDT

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  • 08.09.2004 1:31 PM PDT
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Hell no.

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For -Blam!- sake I get tired of people blaming video games when someone murders someone else. The connection between what he did and the game is the fact that he used a knife and a hammer, nothing more. I know what Im going to do if I ever wreck my car. Im going to say I was playing a -blam!- load of Gran Turismo, learned how to drive fast in the game, and it influenced me to drive unsafely. Then Im going to sue the company and get -blam!- loads of money. *rolls eyes*

That was posted by Ringo2000, it says what I think about that matter.

  • 08.09.2004 1:34 PM PDT
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btw, I saw that this was already done, but it needed a poll, and this topic is targeting blaming them as a whole, rather than blaming just manhunt or xbox

  • 08.09.2004 1:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Frag Master
But, seriously, think about it. If that kid (the murderer) was that disturbed, if it wasn't the game, something else would've set him off and he would've killed somebody else anyway.


Hey, that's what I said in that last topic! Not that I mind, just mention that you got it from somewhere else. Or something.

And I think blaming video games for murder is total bull-blam!-. Can video games have an influence on how people perceive things? Absolutely. But the same applies to movies, books, the media, and even some sports (hockey, maybe?). Also, it all depends on the mental stability of the person involved, and if they can't handle a silly little game without going bonkers and deciding they need to be like the game and kill someone, then goddamnit, don't let them get the game!! Parents need to have some kind of control over their kids. I play violent video games, and really enjoy them, but I wouldn't kill anyone unless it was in self-defense or it was someone who was raping a little kid or something and I just got mad.

Sorry about the rant there, but that's just how I feel.

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Yeah this post will probably get locked. Cause it pissis gamers off. Shot i always Played Doom when i was in middle school the when i was a Junior the whole Columbine thing happened. Dude people got crazy about that crap oneday in english class. So i finally was like, WTF? I played doom and i dont wanna bring a gun to school. However i would like to kick the crap out of the Varsity Qrt Back. Everyone laugh, cause they knew i was always the class clown and they knew i woul never hurt anyone. Hell i made fun of the Varsity Qrt Back to his face on a daily basis. That Loser couldn't even read at a 2nd grade level. That was good times.

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Posted by: v8juice
Posted by: Frag Master
But, seriously, think about it. If that kid (the murderer) was that disturbed, if it wasn't the game, something else would've set him off and he would've killed somebody else anyway.


Hey, that's what I said in that last topic! Not that I mind, just mention that you got it from somewhere else. Or something.

And I think blaming video games for murder is total bull-blam!-. Can video games have an influence on how people perceive things? Absolutely. But the same applies to movies, books, the media, and even some sports (hockey, maybe?). Also, it all depends on the mental stability of the person involved, and if they can't handle a silly little game without going bonkers and deciding they need to be like the game and kill someone, then goddamnit, don't let them get the game!! Parents need to have some kind of control over their kids. I play violent video games, and really enjoy them, but I wouldn't kill anyone unless it was in self-defense or it was someone who was raping a little kid or something and I just got mad.

Sorry about the rant there, but that's just how I feel.


Oh, yeah. I remember copying it and was going to give you credit but I forgot. sorry ;)

go ahead and rant. to a certain extent. I don't want this to get locked by a mod.

Would you really kill a child molester? I'd stop him from doing that awful crime, beat the crap out of him and let them take him to prison, so he could become the -blam!- of all the tall, mean black guys named Bubba.

hahahaha don't drop the soap, petefile... hahahaha

  • 08.09.2004 1:46 PM PDT
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Yes I remember seeing a special on how horrible doom was after some idiot kid started shooting at a school, it stated that it trained kids how to kill, the game play rewarded head shots etc... Not that that isn't true (the head shot part), but its no excuse for murder, or to put a scapegoat on a GAME.

[Edited on 8/9/2004 1:50:04 PM]

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Yeah this post will probably get locked. Cause it pissis gamers off. Shot i always Played Doom when i was in middle school the when i was a Junior the whole Columbine thing happened. Dude people got crazy about that crap oneday in english class. So i finally was like, WTF? I played doom and i dont wanna bring a gun to school. However i would like to kick the crap out of the Varsity Qrt Back. Everyone laugh, cause they knew i was always the class clown and they knew i woul never hurt anyone. Hell i made fun of the Varsity Qrt Back to his face on a daily basis. That Loser couldn't even read at a 2nd grade level. That was good times.


Dude, most quarterbacks are wimps. You want a good fight? Try that bull -blam!- against one of the starting linemen, and then see how long it takes for you to lose half of your teeth. hehehe well, actually, most of them aren't that stupid, but find one with a temper and try it, your_sisters_hot, and see what happens.

  • 08.09.2004 1:48 PM PDT
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If I caught a child molester or somebody like that red-handed, depending on what kind of mood I'm in, I'm not sure I would be able to restrain myself enough. I just started reading a Tom Clancy book, and this FBI agent walks in this house to find some dude who kidnapped a little girl, raped her and then slit her throat in the bathtub. The agent found him watching TV with the knife on the table in front of him. The agent kicked over a vase, the guy picked up the knife, and the agent put three bullets through his heart. I could see myself doing something like that. That kind of stuff just really gets to me, and I'm generally a quiet guy but if I get angry, holy -blam!- do I get angry. I almost beat the -blam!- out of some kid in a rugby game once, if my teammate hadn't been right there when I turned around.

Sorry about going off topic there. I'll stop ranting now.

  • 08.09.2004 1:52 PM PDT
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who said ban the crappy games!!!!!i outta hurt em

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Posted by: Frag Master

Dude, most quarterbacks are wimps. You want a good fight? Try that bull -blam!- against one of the starting linemen, and then see how long it takes for you to lose half of your teeth. hehehe well, actually, most of them aren't that stupid, but find one with a temper and try it, your_sisters_hot, and see what happens.


Hell no, thats why i only made fun of he's stupid ass. He would always say some crap like. I'm going to kick your ass after ass. Then i would say something lame like "wow dude you can rhyme, to bad your an idiot" Yeah i had fun in high school. I usually got along with everyone.

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Posted by: Frag Master
Posted by: your_sisters_hot
Yeah this post will probably get locked. Cause it pissis gamers off. Shot i always Played Doom when i was in middle school the when i was a Junior the whole Columbine thing happened. Dude people got crazy about that crap oneday in english class. So i finally was like, WTF? I played doom and i dont wanna bring a gun to school. However i would like to kick the crap out of the Varsity Qrt Back. Everyone laugh, cause they knew i was always the class clown and they knew i woul never hurt anyone. Hell i made fun of the Varsity Qrt Back to his face on a daily basis. That Loser couldn't even read at a 2nd grade level. That was good times.


Dude, most quarterbacks are wimps. You want a good fight? Try that bull -blam!- against one of the starting linemen, and then see how long it takes for you to lose half of your teeth. hehehe well, actually, most of them aren't that stupid, but find one with a temper and try it, your_sisters_hot, and see what happens.

I agree that QBs are punks. Not to change the subject or anything. I was outside playin' football, I got to the QB and he started RUNNING BACKWARD. I got the sack... And he got mad and said offsides. and Challenged the play. Did a mention this was Madden 2004?

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hahaha I feel sorry for that guy. Man, rugby is cool. I wish we had that here, or Lacrosse.

hey there's a city around here named Lacrosse, where it originated, i think. lots of native americans there.

the next coolest sport here is football, so that is what I'm in.

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This is sad for another reason -- the most recent one ( about an hour and a half from here ) in Volusia County wasn't even about an XBox. it was revenge - pure and simple -- The victims had the suspects property in a box for him to pick up. It was purely sensless and had nothing to do with videogames at all...

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Posted by: Lil G
Posted by: Frag Master
Posted by: your_sisters_hot
Yeah this post will probably get locked. Cause it pissis gamers off. Shot i always Played Doom when i was in middle school the when i was a Junior the whole Columbine thing happened. Dude people got crazy about that crap oneday in english class. So i finally was like, WTF? I played doom and i dont wanna bring a gun to school. However i would like to kick the crap out of the Varsity Qrt Back. Everyone laugh, cause they knew i was always the class clown and they knew i woul never hurt anyone. Hell i made fun of the Varsity Qrt Back to his face on a daily basis. That Loser couldn't even read at a 2nd grade level. That was good times.


Dude, most quarterbacks are wimps. You want a good fight? Try that bull -blam!- against one of the starting linemen, and then see how long it takes for you to lose half of your teeth. hehehe well, actually, most of them aren't that stupid, but find one with a temper and try it, your_sisters_hot, and see what happens.

I agree that QBs are punks. Not to change the subject or anything. I was outside playin' football, I got to the QB and he started RUNNING BACKWARD. I got the sack... And he got mad and said offsides. and Challenged the play. Did a mention this was Madden 2004?


I know a couple that are pretty cool, they don't act all cocky or tough, they are just funny people. I think all the glory goes to their heads, even though us linemen are the ones doing all the real work.but some of then should just get the crap kicked out of them for being so -blam!-.

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Posted by: GameJunkieJim
This is sad for another reason -- the most recent one ( about an hour and a half from here ) in Volusia County wasn't even about an XBox. it was revenge - pure and simple -- The victims had the suspects property in a box for him to pick up. It was purely sensless and had nothing to do with videogames at all...


Absolutely. But as soon as the XBOX is involved, the media takes off with that and just goes nuts with it. Somebody in that other thread said something about people killing for money, so why don't we ban all currency? That's a pretty good point, can't remember the rest of it.

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Frag Master, are you a lineman? That's sweet. Offense or defense? I'm a linebacker, except my coach wants me to play running back this fall because the running backs we have are all wimps.

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Posted by: v8juice
Posted by: GameJunkieJim
This is sad for another reason -- the most recent one ( about an hour and a half from here ) in Volusia County wasn't even about an XBox. it was revenge - pure and simple -- The victims had the suspects property in a box for him to pick up. It was purely sensless and had nothing to do with videogames at all...


Absolutely. But as soon as the XBOX is involved, the media takes off with that and just goes nuts with it. Somebody in that other thread said something about people killing for money, so why don't we ban all currency? That's a pretty good point, can't remember the rest of it.


hey, I said that. and yes, I am a lineman. Center, and Linebacker. I'll be starting Varsity this year both ways even though I'm a sophomore because we are just lacking in big people to play. Not that I'm fat or anything. I'm strong, cuz I powerlift, and I think I'm up to the challenge. Sorry for bragging I just don't want people to think I'm out of shape and fat. ;)

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Hey, if you can play both ways (and play linebacker) anyone who knows anything about football knows you aren't out of shape and fat. Just how big are you? How much can you bench? Just curious. I live in Canada, and I've heard some stuff about guys playing football in the US in high school that are just insanely good.

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i was hoping for a topic on crazy mothers who blame games instead of themselves, but it went to football, just like all the good things in the world.

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to the -blam!- tards who blame video games or other forms of entertainment for violence and thingk they shoyld be banned hear this.Banning videogames would incur on the first ammendment(freedom of spech) and it would hurt the economy.I have a idea parents get off your asses and actualy be a parent.Everythings fine until some kid decides to shoot up his homeroom then people say he played video games,of course he played video games dumass 90% pecent of teenage boys play video games(40% percent of girls do to) it is just like saying he ate burgers or he drank soda or he watced T.V.. Look some people are just born bad if they arent then they grow up to be.

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Posted by: Blue Elite 1000
to the -blam!- tards who blame video games or other forms of entertainment for violence and thingk they shoyld be banned hear this.Banning videogames would incur on the first ammendment(freedom of spech) and it would hurt the economy.I have a idea parents get off your asses and actualy be a parent.Everythings fine until some kid decides to shoot up his homeroom then people say he played video games,of course he played video games dumass 90% pecent of teenage boys play video games(40% percent of girls do to) it is just like saying he ate burgers or he drank soda or he watced T.V.. Look some people are just born bad if they arent then they grow up to be.


amen.

another thing i hate is when parents beat there kids and blame it on alchohol and get off scot free.

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I'm 5' 8" and weigh 169 pounds. I bench 190, squat 280, power-clean 195, and dead lift 360 pounds. Oh, wait, it's kilograms and meters in Canada, isn't it. Shoot. well, go get the calculator if you really want to know then.

Powerlifting is awesome. I advise all of you to join. Lifting year round really helps you in all sports, and it tones all your muscles, making you look really hot. ;)

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