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Subject: You may not be as good as you think you are.
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Posted by: Crunk N DaTrunk

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Posted by: Crunk N DaTrunk

Posted by: tripyboy
that video is just showing a bad host, it isnt usually like that


Not for you it isnt. And that is the point. Thats what its like for people that are playing offhost. Get it?


You're horrible regardless. Adapt.


Spoken like a true ignorant host that doesnt understand the disadvantage of lag.


fail? I never get host, unless im very lucky or my internet decides to have a miracle and the fact is if you cannot adapt to playing off host you are bad. In fact most of my games are yellow bar and i still come out with a win. Even when my team gets host i still lag. Fact is you dont need host to win or be a 50, hell i even got a SWAT 50 with my connection, stop talking

  • 09.03.2010 12:00 PM PDT

Rei!

Where?

:3

I played Halo 3 in China. I never got host, and I never lost a single game.

  • 09.03.2010 12:32 PM PDT

Teamwork > Host

  • 09.03.2010 12:48 PM PDT

Lol... I rarely ever get host due to my OK internet but i still win most of my games, connection may give them an edge but if your actually better than you will most likely win.

[Edited on 09.03.2010 12:56 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2010 12:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Maximus Decimus
Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?

You may either be not as good as you think, or better than you think.

  • 09.03.2010 1:16 PM PDT

Posted by: militaryguns (Hunler116)
Shut the hell up, Halo is my world


Posted by: Crunk N DaTrunk
Why do you have to cry about my crying instead of just accepting it and ignoring my post?

Honestly I'll play with the fastest connection out of everyone here and I'll be 4 bar everygame and my bullets don't even come close to registering.


Adapt.

I play off host 99% of my games and have no problem winning games.

But you must have the worst lag out of anyone ever. Ever. Seriously, nobody cares about how bad your host is. You must be one of those people who whines about it all game and is 0 fun to play with.

[Edited on 09.03.2010 1:22 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2010 1:21 PM PDT

Posted by: militaryguns
I'm sorry America is busy helping others in the world and actually making a difference.

Something Canada will never do.

i've pulled host maybe 5 times this year.

  • 09.03.2010 1:39 PM PDT


Posted by: Screamo
i've pulled host maybe 5 times this year.

and you've probably lost all 5 games. LOL

  • 09.03.2010 1:40 PM PDT

Posted by: militaryguns
I'm sorry America is busy helping others in the world and actually making a difference.

Something Canada will never do.


Posted by: lDopey

Posted by: Screamo
i've pulled host maybe 5 times this year.

and you've probably lost all 5 games. LOL


make me a burrito

  • 09.03.2010 1:42 PM PDT

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  • 09.03.2010 1:52 PM PDT

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lol host


Posted by: Donovan McNabb

Posted by: Crunk N DaTrunk
Why do you have to cry about my crying instead of just accepting it and ignoring my post?

Honestly I'll play with the fastest connection out of everyone here and I'll be 4 bar everygame and my bullets don't even come close to registering.


Adapt.

I play off host 99% of my games and have no problem winning games.

But you must have the worst lag out of anyone ever. Ever. Seriously, nobody cares about how bad your host is. You must be one of those people who whines about it all game and is 0 fun to play with.


Adapt is not a valid counter argument because adapting involves what is normally referred to as "Teamwork", (which is actually playing with people who do get host) or "getting better" (which involves somehow overcoming the 3 burst BR disadvantage against people your same skill.)

It does not take a scientist to determine that given two players of equal skill, the one that gets bullets dropped will lose.

I honestly don't know how anyone could attempt to refute this, since it is pure cane common sense.

Please hosts, please try to convince me that playing at a constant disadvantage is my fault. Please tell me that having a shotgun guy teleport into my bubble shield is my fault. Please tell me that a guy teleporting 5 feet to the left right before my final kill shot is my fault.

I am happy though, since the pool is now about 50% guys who actually know what lag is, and 50% who don't. A year ago it was 99% tryhards and self-proclaimed professionals.

Thankyou to all who had the guts to admit that Host is an advantage.


[Edited on 09.03.2010 2:52 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2010 2:52 PM PDT

Posted by: militaryguns
I'm sorry America is busy helping others in the world and actually making a difference.

Something Canada will never do.


Posted by: WarriorFor7ruth

Thankyou to all who had the guts to admit that Host is an advantage.


everyone knows that host is an advantage, but most of the time it barely does anything. unless the host is on the other side of the world, or has an extremely bad connection, you have nothing to complain about.

  • 09.03.2010 2:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: DeathPenalty16
Microsoft's TrueSkill System told me, I'm good.

  • 09.03.2010 3:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Crunk N DaTrunk

You are raging after watching it for 2 minutes. Imagine if every single Halo 3 game was like that. Imagine being consistently at such a ridiculous disadvantage. Lets pray reach is more about skill rather than internet connection.


I wasn't complaining about the lag. I don't care about lag at all. I understand that the Live community members all have different connections and that it is not possible for all information to make it across all connections all the time. Droppages, especially in games which have extreme accuracy like Halo 3, is inevitable.

I WAS complaining about the "lagtage." Every clip has an instant replay right after it. That is stupid and pointless. It's unnecessary. If I wanted to see the clip I just saw again, I'd rewind the Youtube video. Please don't put words in my mouth.

  • 09.03.2010 3:04 PM PDT

My Halo 3 connection is almost always perfect. So thats never really a problem for me. I don't think it will be a problem in Reach either.

  • 09.03.2010 3:08 PM PDT

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lol host


Posted by: Screamo

Posted by: WarriorFor7ruth

Thankyou to all who had the guts to admit that Host is an advantage.


I recognize that host is an advantage, but I recognize that host is not an advantage.



An advantage is still an advantage.

Let's use a metaphor shall we?

You're a baseball player. You use steroids. Your entire team uses steroids also. You are playing against a team who does not use steroids.

In effect, the arguments here are something like the Steroids team telling the non-steroids team to "Lift more weights and work harder to get our same results." and then proceed to tell them that they are bad at baseball because they lose.

An advantage is an advantage. When you're playing MLG at the upper 40s range, where for the most part skill and strategy is equal, than the ones with the advantage will win. This is not a difficult concept. It amazes me that so many are so vehemently opposed to the idea that they've had a crutch to lean on. I guess it kind of devalues their achievement of a high rank in Halo.

As it was said before, if you cannot admit the huge role Host and lag plays in an online game such as Halo, then you are not affected by it.


[Edited on 09.03.2010 3:11 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2010 3:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: WarriorFor7ruth

Posted by: Screamo

Posted by: WarriorFor7ruth

Thankyou to all who had the guts to admit that Host is an advantage.


I recognize that host is an advantage, but I recognize that host is not an advantage.



An advantage is still an advantage.

Let's use a metaphor shall we?

You're a baseball player. You use steroids. Your entire team uses steroids also. You are playing against a team who does not use steroids.

In effect, the arguments here are something like the Steroids team telling the non-steroids team to "Lift more weights and work harder to get our same results." and then proceed to tell them that they are bad at baseball because they lose.

An advantage is an advantage. When you're playing MLG at the upper 40s range, where for the most part skill and strategy is equal, than the ones with the advantage will win. This is not a difficult concept. It amazes me that so many are so vehemently opposed to the idea that they've had a crutch to lean on. I guess it kind of devalues their achievement of a high rank in Halo.

As it was said before, if you cannot admit the huge role Host and lag plays in an online game such as Halo, then you are not affected by it.


Stop complaining i play everygame off host and still win, maybe your just not that good.

  • 09.03.2010 3:12 PM PDT

iL0RD 0F WAR


The 14th Phangs

It is your internet!

It's about the quality of service. I have cable and it SUCKS! I am constantly losing packets of info. which makes bullets not register and bullet refund =[

But this game is still EPIC.

  • 09.03.2010 3:14 PM PDT


Posted by: WarriorFor7ruth
Host matters, and plays a significant role in who wins games and who does not. This is a fact, and right before the release of Halo: Reach it's time for everyone to admit it.

Have a nice day!

:)
That's called lag. Not host advantage.

  • 09.03.2010 3:15 PM PDT

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lol host


Posted by: An average gamer

Posted by: Crunk N DaTrunk

You are raging after watching it for 2 minutes. Imagine if every single Halo 3 game was like that. Imagine being consistently at such a ridiculous disadvantage. Lets pray reach is more about skill rather than internet connection.


I wasn't complaining about the lag. I don't care about lag at all. I understand that the Live community members all have different connections and that it is not possible for all information to make it across all connections all the time. Droppages, especially in games which have extreme accuracy like Halo 3, is inevitable.

I WAS complaining about the "lagtage." Every clip has an instant replay right after it. That is stupid and pointless. It's unnecessary. If I wanted to see the clip I just saw again, I'd rewind the Youtube video. Please don't put words in my mouth.


I'll tell you why I replayed the clips. Because most people are not intelligent enough to catch the lag in those clips believe it or not. I wanted it to be painfully obvious to everyone what was being dealt with. I didn't want anyone to say "I didn't see any lag out of the ordinary." or "that wasn't lag at all."

And to those saying "OMG U HAD LEIK 3 GAEMZ WIT LAG N U MAED A MONTASH HAHA". I used 3 different accounts to use the render points I had at that time to render the video. It's not for lack of material believe me.

  • 09.03.2010 3:16 PM PDT

Sad to say that its true, no matter how good you are, if your not host it will be more of a challenge to win. Then again I like challenges.

  • 09.03.2010 3:22 PM PDT

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lol host


Posted by: meagsIZbeast


Stop complaining i play everygame off host and still win, maybe your just not that good.


Trolling is an art, and you lack pen and brush.

  • 09.03.2010 3:31 PM PDT