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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update: 09/03/2010

halo reach is going to be awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

  • 09.05.2010 5:23 AM PDT

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I can't wait for Reach!

  • 09.05.2010 5:46 AM PDT

Yes I'm a gamer, Yes I play pokemon, Yes I love Fallout, Yes I'm a competitive Swimmer, Yes I'm a artist, Yes I Ski, And of course yes I love Halo.

So sad to see Stosh leaving halo 3...... with his new grunt friend.

  • 09.05.2010 6:11 AM PDT

reach is gonna be so awesome

  • 09.05.2010 6:35 AM PDT

it seems to take quite awhile for you to go from sprinting to being able to shoot...im sure this was done on purpose but if i were playing that swat game...from a spectators point i view i'd be flipping -blam!- lol

  • 09.05.2010 7:01 AM PDT

HALO REACH ROCKS!!

7th page only 9 more days i cant wait for reach

  • 09.05.2010 1:36 PM PDT

Snip3

not any more its 9 days!

  • 09.05.2010 2:07 PM PDT

Favorite part of update: 4:10 in first video, guy grabs his face where the needle hits him.

Bungie, it's the little things like this (in addition to all the big things) that make your games so awesome. Thank you!

  • 09.05.2010 3:47 PM PDT

i know is so cool halo reach is almost here i can´t wait

  • 09.05.2010 4:13 PM PDT
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yes 9 days baby

  • 09.05.2010 8:42 PM PDT

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Looks like a sweet BLAM Lan Party.. When the next one? I want in Lan fun.. Greenman Vs MatDeew.. Dew wins.. Bungie I Got a bug at HonorTheCode... Rise Elitessssss..

  • 09.05.2010 10:31 PM PDT

Joseph R Green/Burrows/GREENMAN792004
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BLAM I want this Job.. http://www.bungie.net/inside/jobs.aspx#27683..
Working on G.E.D. right now.. & then Bungie whatch out,cuz greenman comeing about.. :)

  • 09.05.2010 10:35 PM PDT

BRING IT ON! I FEAR NOBODY!

Where oh where is it possible to find those life size sweet guns in the pictures in the last update... will you have them in the Bungie store or are they only for you lucky people?

  • 09.05.2010 11:08 PM PDT

Relaxedd

this game will be amazing i cant wait for one play it two get my clan ready to kick but in it and three kll grunts like no tomarrow with the DMR and sniper. Thanks Bungie for keeping gamers happy for years well miss you when your gone

  • 09.05.2010 11:31 PM PDT

As the days pass by, and REACH comes forth, I cannot help but to feel saddened. Saddened because this is the last we will ever see of the epic series of Halo. But, hopefully, something new will arise. Something that everyone will enjoy just as much as Halo. Long live REACH! Long live REACH! Viva la REACH!

  • 09.06.2010 12:10 AM PDT

Can there be bots in halo reach?

  • 09.06.2010 1:32 AM PDT

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Looking forward to that bonus content. Here's to the end of an epic era.

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  • 09.06.2010 8:42 AM PDT


Posted by: zaffy_2005
Ok, so a few others noticed and commented on this, too. In the last few paragraphs under "Steel Yourself" we are told that any credits we earn "offline" will be reduced when we go "online" and any armor we've unlocked/purchased with said credits will be forfeit.

So, let's say I go along with my intended plan of jumping straight into Forge 2.0, earn credits while experimenting with the new features, objects, etc., perhaps even put together a handful of maps, then use those credits to customize my spartan before heading into Campaign, complete Campaign, and then use any subsequently earned credits to further pimp my Spartan.

If I understand this correctly, when I finally decide to jump into Matchmaking all that work, all those credits, all that I've unlocked, bought, EARNED... all of that will be for nothing? We're just going to be completely and utterly stripped back down to the basics because we haven't "earned" anything? Is that how this is going to work?

I would like to believe that Bungie is not giving us all a rather unwanted kick in the pants here, but it does not sound good at all. I mean, if the intention is to somehow legislate behavior, when will you learn that that is impossible and stop punishing the decent players? Regardless of what system you use people will still find a way to hack it, cheat it, or simply pay someone to do all the work for them so they can have a fully unlocked armory without having to put forth any effort. I would think it a safe bet that at least a third, if not a half, of the current Halo 3 "50's" are not legitimately earned. Screwing the rest of us over won't change that in Reach. Lazy people will still find ways to be lazy and profit from it.

Now, I'm going out on a limb here with a loose thought that provides the only glimmer of hope this announcement has left me with. When specifying "offline" vs. "online" accounts, does that mean the difference between silver (offline) and gold (online) subscriptions? Simply put, as a gold subscriber will my activity, even in forge and campaign, be considered "online?" Do I have to have the sessions open to Live to be considered "online" or can I use the "local" option (or the Reach equivalent) and still be considered "online" because of the gold subscription? I guess what I'm saying is my only glimmer of hope rests on what defines "online" and "offline," whether those are limited by game modes or Live account type. Some clarification here would be deeply appreciated.

If this does, in fact, mean that anything outside of Matchmaking (I do understand that Campaign and Firefight do have Matchmaking support and are thus included, in my mind, as "Matchmaking") will be treated as "offline" activity, I've got to say this is a rather reckless and flawed gambit. I'm sure the folks at Bungie, of all people, should know damn well that no one, and I mean NO ONE, likes working their ass off for ANY length of time and then have to start all over again from scratch. When taken in conjunction with the immanent price-hike for Live Gold, such a move will most likely cause people to forgo online play altogether. I know that I, for one, will not give up my hard-earned money just to be set back to zero, or even pushed back a few levels.

As it is I only have Gold because I wanted to unlock all the possible armor options for Halo 3, and to do that I needed to have an online account, otherwise I could not complete any of the matchmaking achievements linked to armor pieces. I hated having to shell out 50 bucks and then having to jump through hoops doing ridiculous crap that I would not normally bother with just to unlock a few pieces of armor that I didn't even care to use. I simply wanted a complete collection for completion's sake.

I mean, I still don't have the Recon set, and that's the most ridiculous set of hoops of them all. Seven achievements spanning two separate games plus downloaded content, and all but one requiring Live Gold (that being Brainpan, which still requires downloaded content). So let's see, that's about $60 each for Halo 3 and ODST, at the very least another $10 for a one month Gold subscription (reaching Lieutenant in a single playlist would take at least as long unless you were extremely skilled or just extremely lucky, but regardless that's the smallest amount one can purchase), on top of that another $20 to buy the smallest Microsoft Points card in order to purchase the necessary downloadable content. So, we're talking $150 plus hours upon hours of ridiculous gameplay (providing you're even able to find three other people with coinciding schedules as well as comparable skill in order to do not one, not even two, but THREE of the seven Vidmaster challenges before any/all of you lose the subscription) all for three measly pieces of armor, one of which is just a very slightly tweaked version of the E.V.A. shoulders, one being the dorkiest looking helmet I have ever laid eyes on, and the last being the only one I'd ever consider using, and even then the novelty might wear off. Absolutely ridiculous.

When it was announced that Reach would allow for credits to be earned in pretty much ANY game mode, and that armor would be PURCHASED rather than unlockable only by jumping through ridiculous hoops, I was ecstatic. I thought to myself, "Finally I can get the armor I want simply by playing and enjoying the game. No more 2-for-1 or Steppin' Razor BS. No more hoops, no more spending countless hours playing against prepubescent twerps who shouldn't even be playing an 'M' rated game much less cussing me out like the stereotypical sailor. No more team-killing morons ruining my gaming experience just because they can't unlock an 'MVP' achievement by their own skill or even have the decency to ask their team mates to help them make the achievement." Well, I thought a lot of things, much more than I care to elaborate on here. The point is all that jubilation was crushed when this announcement, to my understanding, basically said that earning credits and armor in all other modes was now a useless gesture because it would all be stripped away once we step foot in Matchmaking. This is Bungie's last entry in the Halo series. Why would you want to go out like this? This is just disappointing.

I talked my friends and family, the people I've played and enjoyed Halo with ever since Combat Evolved, I talked them into pitching in for the Legendary Edition of Reach and now, as much as I hate to and know it's too late, I find myself questioning whether I even want to play this game. So please, someone, anyone with insider knowledge, shed some light on this. I want to hear it from Bungie that we are not going to get tied down and royally screwed over by this system allegedly designed to only affect "lazy people." I want details on exactly how this system works and the full extent of its effects.
Cool story, bro

  • 09.06.2010 8:48 AM PDT

HALO REACH ROCKS!!

I preordered HALO REACH but now i cant wait for it to come out

  • 09.06.2010 3:54 PM PDT


Posted by: zaffy_2005
Ok, so a few others noticed and commented on this, too. In the last few paragraphs under "Steel Yourself" we are told that any credits we earn "offline" will be reduced when we go "online" and any armor we've unlocked/purchased with said credits will be forfeit.

So, let's say I go along with my intended plan of jumping straight into Forge 2.0, earn credits while experimenting with the new features, objects, etc., perhaps even put together a handful of maps, then use those credits to customize my spartan before heading into Campaign, complete Campaign, and then use any subsequently earned credits to further pimp my Spartan.

If I understand this correctly, when I finally decide to jump into Matchmaking all that work, all those credits, all that I've unlocked, bought, EARNED... all of that will be for nothing? We're just going to be completely and utterly stripped back down to the basics because we haven't "earned" anything? Is that how this is going to work?

I would like to believe that Bungie is not giving us all a rather unwanted kick in the pants here, but it does not sound good at all. I mean, if the intention is to somehow legislate behavior, when will you learn that that is impossible and stop punishing the decent players? Regardless of what system you use people will still find a way to hack it, cheat it, or simply pay someone to do all the work for them so they can have a fully unlocked armory without having to put forth any effort. I would think it a safe bet that at least a third, if not a half, of the current Halo 3 "50's" are not legitimately earned. Screwing the rest of us over won't change that in Reach. Lazy people will still find ways to be lazy and profit from it.

Now, I'm going out on a limb here with a loose thought that provides the only glimmer of hope this announcement has left me with. When specifying "offline" vs. "online" accounts, does that mean the difference between silver (offline) and gold (online) subscriptions? Simply put, as a gold subscriber will my activity, even in forge and campaign, be considered "online?" Do I have to have the sessions open to Live to be considered "online" or can I use the "local" option (or the Reach equivalent) and still be considered "online" because of the gold subscription? I guess what I'm saying is my only glimmer of hope rests on what defines "online" and "offline," whether those are limited by game modes or Live account type. Some clarification here would be deeply appreciated.

If this does, in fact, mean that anything outside of Matchmaking (I do understand that Campaign and Firefight do have Matchmaking support and are thus included, in my mind, as "Matchmaking") will be treated as "offline" activity, I've got to say this is a rather reckless and flawed gambit. I'm sure the folks at Bungie, of all people, should know damn well that no one, and I mean NO ONE, likes working their ass off for ANY length of time and then have to start all over again from scratch. When taken in conjunction with the immanent price-hike for Live Gold, such a move will most likely cause people to forgo online play altogether. I know that I, for one, will not give up my hard-earned money just to be set back to zero, or even pushed back a few levels.

As it is I only have Gold because I wanted to unlock all the possible armor options for Halo 3, and to do that I needed to have an online account, otherwise I could not complete any of the matchmaking achievements linked to armor pieces. I hated having to shell out 50 bucks and then having to jump through hoops doing ridiculous crap that I would not normally bother with just to unlock a few pieces of armor that I didn't even care to use. I simply wanted a complete collection for completion's sake.

I mean, I still don't have the Recon set, and that's the most ridiculous set of hoops of them all. Seven achievements spanning two separate games plus downloaded content, and all but one requiring Live Gold (that being Brainpan, which still requires downloaded content). So let's see, that's about $60 each for Halo 3 and ODST, at the very least another $10 for a one month Gold subscription (reaching Lieutenant in a single playlist would take at least as long unless you were extremely skilled or just extremely lucky, but regardless that's the smallest amount one can purchase), on top of that another $20 to buy the smallest Microsoft Points card in order to purchase the necessary downloadable content. So, we're talking $150 plus hours upon hours of ridiculous gameplay (providing you're even able to find three other people with coinciding schedules as well as comparable skill in order to do not one, not even two, but THREE of the seven Vidmaster challenges before any/all of you lose the subscription) all for three measly pieces of armor, one of which is just a very slightly tweaked version of the E.V.A. shoulders, one being the dorkiest looking helmet I have ever laid eyes on, and the last being the only one I'd ever consider using, and even then the novelty might wear off. Absolutely ridiculous.

When it was announced that Reach would allow for credits to be earned in pretty much ANY game mode, and that armor would be PURCHASED rather than unlockable only by jumping through ridiculous hoops, I was ecstatic. I thought to myself, "Finally I can get the armor I want simply by playing and enjoying the game. No more 2-for-1 or Steppin' Razor BS. No more hoops, no more spending countless hours playing against prepubescent twerps who shouldn't even be playing an 'M' rated game much less cussing me out like the stereotypical sailor. No more team-killing morons ruining my gaming experience just because they can't unlock an 'MVP' achievement by their own skill or even have the decency to ask their team mates to help them make the achievement." Well, I thought a lot of things, much more than I care to elaborate on here. The point is all that jubilation was crushed when this announcement, to my understanding, basically said that earning credits and armor in all other modes was now a useless gesture because it would all be stripped away once we step foot in Matchmaking. This is Bungie's last entry in the Halo series. Why would you want to go out like this? This is just disappointing.

I talked my friends and family, the people I've played and enjoyed Halo with ever since Combat Evolved, I talked them into pitching in for the Legendary Edition of Reach and now, as much as I hate to and know it's too late, I find myself questioning whether I even want to play this game. So please, someone, anyone with insider knowledge, shed some light on this. I want to hear it from Bungie that we are not going to get tied down and royally screwed over by this system allegedly designed to only affect "lazy people." I want details on exactly how this system works and the full extent of its effects.


Eh, I'm not sure what you're talking about, but what I've noticed is that a few others noticed and commented on this, too. In the last few paragraphs under "Steel Yourself" we are told that any credits we earn "offline" will be reduced when we go "online" and any armor we've unlocked/purchased with said credits will be forfeit.


When it was announced that Reach would allow for credits to be earned in pretty much ANY game mode, and that armor would be PURCHASED rather than unlockable only by jumping through ridiculous hoops, I was ecstatic. I thought to myself, "Finally I can get the armor I want simply by playing and enjoying the game. No more 2-for-1 or Steppin' Razor BS. No more hoops, no more spending countless hours playing against prepubescent twerps who shouldn't even be playing an 'M' rated game much less cussing me out like the stereotypical sailor. No more team-killing morons ruining my gaming experience just because they can't unlock an 'MVP' achievement by their own skill or even have the decency to ask their team mates to help them make the achievement." Well, I thought a lot of things, much more than I care to elaborate on here. The point is all that jubilation was crushed when this announcement, to my understanding, basically said that earning credits and armor in all other modes was now a useless gesture because it would all be stripped away once we step foot in Matchmaking. This is Bungie's last entry in the Halo series. Why would you want to go out like this? This is just disappointing.

I talked my friends and family, the people I've played and enjoyed Halo with ever since Combat Evolved, I talked them into pitching in for the Legendary Edition of Reach and now, as much as I hate to and know it's too late, I find myself questioning whether I even want to play this game. So please, someone, anyone with insider knowledge, shed some light on this. I want to hear it from Bungie that we are not going to get tied down and royally screwed over by this system allegedly designed to only affect "lazy people." I want details on exactly how this system works and the full extent of its effects.

  • 09.06.2010 5:38 PM PDT
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"A man once said to the Universe 'I exist!' to which the Universe replied, 'But that fact does not create in me a sense of obligation'."

Yeah I'm kinda bummed about this because I play a lotta local/ system link and occasionally go online. My amin concern is getting a lot of rank, then losing it when I get online, and repeat. I would also like to know how it works. Maybe it only demotes you a certain level, such as I offline rank to Lieutenant, but get demoted to Gunnery Sgt G2 or whatever as the online scale would allow my credits to that rank online as opposed to Lieutenant offline. If so then it wouldn't be too much of a burden.

But then what if I have an online account, but just don't play on it? Would the scale only apply to matchmaking or LIVE connection in general? I would be fine with having a tighter scale while playing local matches so long as I'm connected to LIVE.I would also like a bit more detail in this.

  • 09.06.2010 5:59 PM PDT

Rich white kids who know Ebonics.

OOOh man that DMR is going to make things ugly for kids who loved ARs in H3. LOL!

  • 09.06.2010 7:31 PM PDT

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Thanks, Urk.

One more BWU to go!

  • 09.06.2010 7:54 PM PDT

It's all about teamwork. :)

Sucks that they ran out of signed posters, I got one but the line for signing it next day was rediculous. Also, why wasn't Frankie there!? I want to ask why the Spectre isn't featured in the Halo encyclopedia...

  • 09.06.2010 8:43 PM PDT
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Can't wait!

  • 09.07.2010 7:29 AM PDT