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Subject: Most 50s are not legit

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Edit - LOL I just posted this to see how many responses I would get since whenever I post a topic I think is meaningful it only gets a few responses. I'm not sure how many 50s are not legit since there are no statistics available but it is between 30-60% based on the massive number of boosters and new account 50s in ranked games which ruins Halo for non-50s.

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I've played a lot of Halo and at the end of my Halo 3 career I have come to the conclusion that most people who are 50s are not legit and used means of obtaining their rank which ruins the game for everyone else.

Let me explain why and what categories they fall into:

1. Boosted 50s - People get frustrated at being the rank the matchmaking system intends them to be so they play with a booster account that has been deranked so that they will rank up faster since the trueskill system expects them to lose based on the horrible record of the booster. This is why swat and doubles are filled with derankers who ruin the game for everyone else by making it more difficult for people to rank up legit while Bungie does nothing about it. It takes forever to go from 45 to 50 so people just give up and send a message to the deranker that made them lose asking for boosting. Whenever I see someone with a 50 with little experience, their matchmaking history always reveals that they played with a booster account so they can get a 50 in 35 games or less. I was a member of a BTB clan that had its own dedicated swat booster to level its members to 45 for those who could not even get to that rank legit! This is the greatest problem with ranked matchmaking and a simple reporting system for derankers would have fixed the problem and this is why Reach will not have a rank based on actual skill. This is why we can't have nice things.

2. Backpacked 50s - People who get boosted to 50 almost always get backpacked to their rank by someone who is a legit 50 in doubles or swat. Since doubles is the easiest 50 and swat is the 50 where it is easiest to carry people, these have the most derankers who backpack those who pay them. MLG is the most coveted 50 so this playlist also has a ton of derankers.

3. Recovered 50s - Someone who is a legit 50 recovered their account and leveled it up either for money or because they are friends. I know many people who are 45s in Lone Wolves because they had someone else play on their account.

4. Bought 50s - Many people who are legit 50s have multiple new accounts that are also 50s sitting in their hard drive so they sell them to other people for M$ points or gold memberships.

5. Lucky 50s - Their 50 account was given to them by a friend who has multiple 50s or they traded accounts to make it a booster. There have been at least a dozen instances in my life where someone offered to trade a 50 for my Brigadier General with Recon armor. Another person offered to give me a 50 if I would do the Vidmasters with him.

6. Scared 50s - Even if their 50 is legit they would never dare risk losing their 50 because they know they are not good enough to keep it because they have not played Halo in a while or they were backpacked to their rank. If they do play on it they will bring a booster account along with them to make sure they don't lose it.

7. Social Slayer 50s - The majority of the 50s I have played against in social are around the skill level of the average Brigadier I play against in ranked games. After getting their boosted 50 they never play ranked again because they know they would do poorly and people would rightly ask them how much their 50 cost.

So do you agree or disagree with my analysis?

[Edited on 09.10.2010 12:28 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2010 9:02 PM PDT

You never explained the "most" part of your analysis. Maybe some numbers?

On a side note, I play Action Sack. According to my experiences, most players are under the high skill of 10. Done.

[Edited on 09.08.2010 9:05 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2010 9:03 PM PDT

"Where are you, God, you f.ucking f.aggot? Come and get me!" Neil Armstrong

10,000 games and no 50?

I've played <4000, wow.

  • 09.08.2010 9:07 PM PDT

Another unlegit 50, IMO, is someone who couldnt get a 50 on their first account so they make a new one. Just pathetic.

  • 09.08.2010 9:15 PM PDT

The Marty Army

Believe.

The system fails, but Reach will change that.

  • 09.08.2010 9:16 PM PDT

"Where are you, God, you f.ucking f.aggot? Come and get me!" Neil Armstrong

Posted by: o0onicko0o
The system fails, but Reach will change that.

The ranking system is fine.

  • 09.08.2010 9:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: TyphIosion
Posted by: o0onicko0o
The system fails, but Reach will change that.

The ranking system is fine.
Not according to all the people who aren't 50s who blame their inability to get 50s on the ranking system and bad teammates.

  • 09.08.2010 9:19 PM PDT

"Where are you, God, you f.ucking f.aggot? Come and get me!" Neil Armstrong

Posted by: Da Homie Pat
Posted by: TyphIosion
Posted by: o0onicko0o
The system fails, but Reach will change that.

The ranking system is fine.
Not according to all the people who aren't 50s who blame their inability to get 50s on the ranking system and bad teammates.

I CANT GET A 50 GAME IS BORKED

  • 09.08.2010 9:21 PM PDT
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Halo 3: Doubles 50. Slayer 50. Ranked Griffball 50. MLG 50.


Posted by: Da Homie Pat

Posted by: TyphIosion
Posted by: o0onicko0o
The system fails, but Reach will change that.

The ranking system is fine.
Not according to all the people who aren't 50s who blame their inability to get 50s on the ranking system and bad teammates.

It is usually because they are bad. As much as they get bad teammates, the other team will get just as many.

NOT EVERYONE IS MEANT TO GET A 50.

A 50 doesn't even matter, all it is is a tool to match players.

  • 09.08.2010 9:24 PM PDT

i dont play much at all on my TS 50. im working on getting my LWs 50 back, and my TD 50 again. back when i had an account that had my first 50 ever on it, which was in LWs, id run that all dayyyyyy lonnnnggggggggg

  • 09.08.2010 9:28 PM PDT

No the ranking system is not fine.The whole win 10 games to rank up once you're a level 40 is BS.Then you have one bad game and you go down???What kind of BS is that?

They don't want you getting a 50 easy.There's only a few games where I lost to legit players.Most times(at level 40 and up)there is some kind of cheating going on.

  • 09.08.2010 9:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartan901
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone who has read this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I see what you've done here.

  • 09.08.2010 9:31 PM PDT

I'm sick of kids talking trash of how they're better than everyone then they dont have an account linked to back it up. Scared to show your Staff Captain?

  • 09.08.2010 9:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: XxiTzYoMasterxX
No the ranking system is not fine.The whole win 10 games to rank up once you're a level 40 is BS.Then you have one bad game and you go down???What kind of BS is that?

They don't want you getting a 50 easy.There's only a few games where I lost to legit players.Most times(at level 40 and up)there is some kind of cheating going on.

The ranking system is fine. If you deserve to rank up, you will. I had to win 80 games from my 45 to 50. Sure I was annoyed, but I had to prove I deserved the rank.

Also, from the looks of your game history, you haven't ran into any cheaters. Also, you won't run into cheaters unless you're searching 50 high pretty much.

  • 09.08.2010 9:34 PM PDT

657 MLG 50s.

I noticed it's the non 50s who make threads on bad 50s. And what BTB clan where you in? cause I dont even know you, and I used to run BTB on my other account and rolled with decent teams.

  • 09.08.2010 9:37 PM PDT

657 MLG 50s.


Posted by: spartan901

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I'm sick of kids talking trash of how they're better than everyone then they dont have an account linked to back it up. Scared to show your Staff Captain?


Well I'm infinitely better than everyone who has posted in this thread with the exception of offense/teamed, whom I am slightly better than.



lulz.

  • 09.08.2010 9:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: spartan901

Posted by: TS VOLTAGE
I'm sick of kids talking trash of how they're better than everyone then they dont have an account linked to back it up. Scared to show your Staff Captain?


Well I'm infinitely better than everyone who has posted in this thread with the exception of offense/teamed, whom I am slightly better than.

Lol at you saying Teamed is good.

  • 09.08.2010 9:40 PM PDT

I guarantee you're a Staff Captain. Now please, be quiet you 50 wannabe.

  • 09.08.2010 9:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: TyphIosion
Posted by: Da Homie Pat
Posted by: TyphIosion
Posted by: o0onicko0o
The system fails, but Reach will change that.

The ranking system is fine.
Not according to all the people who aren't 50s who blame their inability to get 50s on the ranking system and bad teammates.

I CANT GET A 50 GAME IS BORKED
YA WHEN REACH COME OUT IMMA BE ONYX!!!

  • 09.08.2010 9:42 PM PDT