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Subject: Official Halo: Reach *Mythic Difficulty* Guide (LASO for all missions)

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Posted by: RC Master

Aside: I rendered it.


Thank you, I wasn't sure how it got rendered but I knew I didn't do it.

Although, now its easier for people to see my sweet mongoose driving skills

[Edited on 02.07.2011 6:23 AM PST]

  • 02.07.2011 6:21 AM PDT
Subject: *Mythic Difficulty* Step by Step for Halo: Reach! (ALL SKULLS ON!!!)

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Posted by: Tyrant122312
I will say, though, that I am starting to hate the Mass Driver and am wondering if there's a better way to deal with it. It just seems like such a shame that the entire mission comes down to a coin toss. That's extremely poor mission design...

You can enter the mass driver with full shields and health, but on the off chance that a Banshee gets an itch to use its fuel rod cannon, your toast. Horrible.


It does suck, but to get my mind at ease, I think of all the other random things that happen on Mythic runs, which are in themselves coin tosses. Personally, I find the Falcon ride on Exodus a bit of a coin toss. I've had all kinds of things happen there (being shot directly at me and killing me instantly, getting fuel rod gunned, etc.). But that's Mythic.

I think part of Mythic is having crap happen to you, and having to redo the whole thing. If people were able to run through Mythic missions on their first try, it would be a shame. Then they wouldn't have really mastered the level, or gotten extremely familiar with the level. On top of that, being a Mythic Conqueror comes with title that says "I've dedicated A LOT of time to campaign". I think the Mass Driver is just a way of ensuring that you do put in a good bit of time.

It definitely sucks that this final test is at the very end though, as it's sorta like Bungie's teasing you with victory, and perhaps we'll find a way of being more effective with it (I think I have a strategy for Multi-Mythic PoA I'll tell you later), but I am not disappointed by any means by it's difficulty.

  • 02.07.2011 8:14 AM PDT

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has anyone ever tried to steal a banshee on PoA? I noticed that the AI is kind of dumb and they crash into the cliff sides and just stay there every once in awhile. I put in on easy to see if I could PP one but I failed and also got distracted because i noticed the scarabs have their engines that can be destroyed and I tried to kill one a couple times to see what would happen.

  • 02.07.2011 10:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: Tyrant122312
I will say, though, that I am starting to hate the Mass Driver and am wondering if there's a better way to deal with it. It just seems like such a shame that the entire mission comes down to a coin toss. That's extremely poor mission design...

You can enter the mass driver with full shields and health, but on the off chance that a Banshee gets an itch to use its fuel rod cannon, your toast. Horrible.


Well, Bungie intended for the vast majority of people to be playing on Normal or Heroic and if they died they would just go back to the next checkpoint, so it's not really bad mission design. Mythic and Legendary are for people who really love the game and they wouldn't let a coin toss stop them from playing it. :)


Posted by: Leumas786
has anyone ever tried to steal a banshee on PoA? I noticed that the AI is kind of dumb and they crash into the cliff sides and just stay there every once in awhile. I put in on easy to see if I could PP one but I failed and also got distracted because i noticed the scarabs have their engines that can be destroyed and I tried to kill one a couple times to see what would happen.


It's a clever idea, but sometimes Bungie doesn't want you having a banshee. If for whatever reason a banshee pilot died in the level "Halo" in Halo 1, it was impossible to pilot them; you could only flip the banhsees. Three years later, do you remember what happened in Halo 2 on the level Metropolis when you tried to jack a banshee? If you don't remember, you would literally spontaneously explode unless you jacked it right on a loading zone.

All I'm saying is that it's worth a shot, just make sure you're on a practice run when you try it the first time, for god's sake.

  • 02.07.2011 12:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Michael_Archer

It's a clever idea, but sometimes Bungie doesn't want you having a banshee. If for whatever reason a banshee pilot died in the level "Halo" in Halo 1, it was impossible to pilot them; you could only flip the banhsees. Three years later, do you remember what happened in Halo 2 on the level Metropolis when you tried to jack a banshee? If you don't remember, you would literally spontaneously explode unless you jacked it right on a loading zone.

All I'm saying is that it's worth a shot, just make sure you're on a practice run when you try it the first time, for god's sake.


Well i successfully zapped one but it wouldn't let me board it which sucks but oh well it was worth a shot. is there anyway to kill the pilot without blowing up the banshee itself?

  • 02.07.2011 1:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Leumas786

Posted by: Michael_Archer

It's a clever idea, but sometimes Bungie doesn't want you having a banshee. If for whatever reason a banshee pilot died in the level "Halo" in Halo 1, it was impossible to pilot them; you could only flip the banhsees. Three years later, do you remember what happened in Halo 2 on the level Metropolis when you tried to jack a banshee? If you don't remember, you would literally spontaneously explode unless you jacked it right on a loading zone.

All I'm saying is that it's worth a shot, just make sure you're on a practice run when you try it the first time, for god's sake.


Well i successfully zapped one but it wouldn't let me board it which sucks but oh well it was worth a shot. is there anyway to kill the pilot without blowing up the banshee itself?


Well, I'm sure every so often something weird may happen where the pilot dies, but even so, I bet the mission design has blocked entrance to a banshee. However, WC allowed you to get into the falcon even though boarding/asking him to get out was blocked off. So who knows? On the other hand, the banshee may be triggered to explode upon the elite's death. Tricky stuff.

  • 02.07.2011 1:56 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant

There are no pilots...

  • 02.07.2011 2:06 PM PDT
Subject: *Mythic Difficulty* -NOW CONQUERED- for Halo: Reach (ALL SKULLS ON!!!)

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

I beat Noble Actual on Mythic! I AM A GOD!!!

  • 02.07.2011 3:07 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
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lol ^^^

But not Lone Wolf?

  • 02.07.2011 3:27 PM PDT
Subject: Official Halo: Reach *Mythic Difficulty* Guide (LASO for all missions)

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
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Posted by: Tyrant122312
There are no pilots...


You are absolutely correct lol I totally forgot. We were making fun of that on Multi-Mythic Package when we boarded the banshees.

In other news, just ran LNoS. Made it to the Focus Rifle Elite room. I went to the left up the ramp, and into the far back room, and I guess that is a soft-kill barrier, because I was in my little drop shield, and my screen just got red, and I died.

[Edited on 02.07.2011 3:30 PM PST]

  • 02.07.2011 3:30 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: SHADOWSTRIKE10

Posted by: Tyrant122312
There are no pilots...


You are absolutely correct lol I totally forgot. We were making fun of that on Multi-Mythic Package when we boarded the banshees.

In other news, just ran LNoS. Made it to the Focus Rifle Elite room. I went to the left up the ramp, and into the far back room, and I guess that is a soft-kill barrier, because I was in my little drop shield, and my screen just got red, and I died.


Yes it is. Look at the guide :-P

  • 02.07.2011 3:31 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: RC Master
This:
Posted by: RC Master
I've started doing something different for the Wraith area that gets me through I'd say 9 times out of 10. It isn't as fast as the mongoose method, but it looks slightly more badass and has a higher success rate.
Over the rooftops on the left hand side of the area? I do that in my Legendary run. Was wondering whether or not to tell you guys since it requires a sprint-jump that can sometimes screw up. But I'm confused that you say its not as fast since I specifically picked that because it was faster than killing the jackal marksmen and the captain on the turret, and then mongoosing it down.


Equals this:

Posted by: Leumas786

Posted by: Tyrant122312
Is there a clip available? I've never seen this technique before.


I just uploaded one to my file share

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=136348 24&player=Leumas%20Loch



Aside: I rendered it.


I like this method. Though I'm not gonna lie. That initial jump seems a bit tricky. I've been testing it out for about an hour, and in an environment where there are NO enemies and no stress, I can hit the beam most of the time.

That said, on actual runs, it tends to be much more hit or miss, and if you miss, it becomes extremely difficult to recover. Not sure if I want to include this or not mainly because of the amount of flak I'm gonna receive, but I'll continue to examine it tonight.

After tonight, though, if I can't put it into context, I'll have to nix it. Deadline is only a couple of days away, and due to my schedule, I can't put it off a week. It's either this Friday or next month.

EDIT:

I'm nixing it. Now, I know there are going to be people who scream "but tYrantz! it alwayz wrks for meh!" In truth, yes the method does work, but far less often than mine. It's a great method in theory, but even the times that I do make that jump, 9/10 I get to the area behind the Wraith with no shields which puts me at heavy risk if I either get blindsided by the Wraith and its sinister 90-degree mortars, or a Jackal Marksman that survived the initial onslaught. It may be something nice for high speed halo, but not for the novice player.

I encourage people NOT to try to change my mind on the matter. I have a deadline to meet so my decision is final. But thanks for cluing me in none the less. It's fun to experiment with new methods.

[Edited on 02.08.2011 1:24 AM PST]

  • 02.07.2011 11:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tyrant122312
That initial jump seems a bit tricky.

I know, lol. I can usually safely run back around for a second go at the jump, but then often lose a lot of shields to the grunts and such.

even the times that I do make that jump, 9/10 I get to the area behind the Wraith with no shields
But, this shouldn't be happening though. Where exactly are you jumping up to on the first building? If you're on the orange ledge, the white bit on the roof should save you from most of the fire. By the time you get to the second building you should be mostly ok, and the curve of the 3rd building can help if you happen to still be getting shot at.

If you're jumping right onto the TOP of the first building though, that'll be where your issue lies.


[Edited on 02.08.2011 5:38 AM PST]

  • 02.08.2011 5:37 AM PDT

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I've never once even been attacked by the wraith at the end, the only way I die at the end is if I shoot a bad rocket and everything doesn't explode. Since the grunts do kamikaze anyway they blow up on their own for the most part.

If I do miss the initial jump, I tend to just rocket the rif raf near by and try again. This works sometimes and doesn't work others. I'd say the risk is much less than dodging wraith shots for 5 minutes. Although when it comes to wraith shots I'm kind of like a moth to the flame, I can't help but run into them. Furthmore, failure at this point is not that big of a deal, all you have to redo is the mongoose run which after a couple run throughs people should be able to do flawlessly

But, if we can't change your mind maybe you could include it the way you included the assassinate everything in the bridge method on LNoS? Just to give people options

[Edited on 02.08.2011 6:09 AM PST]

  • 02.08.2011 6:05 AM PDT

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Aw...that must hurt, Leumas. That sucks. Well, you'll have the best run since you can do things that other people can't.

I would use this method on future runs, even if it works only 90% of the time like Tyrant said. It takes me about five minutes to get to that point and I've used much, much worse strategies far later in levels than this one.

My strategy against the four ultras at the end of LNOS before someone found out about the pelican gun comes to mind...

  • 02.08.2011 9:25 AM PDT

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I can't even imagine the LNoS battle without the pelican gun, that would have been AWFUL.

Oh well its no big deal, anyway its not like I came up with it, RC said he ran on the buildings, I just tried it out and it worked. At the end of the day its Tyrant's guide and he's been writing them for a long time so he probably knows whats best for that.

[Edited on 02.08.2011 10:04 AM PST]

  • 02.08.2011 10:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: Leumas786
I can't even imagine the LNoS battle without the pelican gun, that would have been AWFUL.


It's not that bad, just time-consuming. I beat it the first time I got that far. Check my run to see how it went (note: this is before we came up with any real strategies for LNoS, so it's kind of a longish run).

  • 02.08.2011 10:28 AM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant

Before I put in the final word, does anyone have a preferred method for taking out the Plasma Launcher chieftain (location-wise)? I mainly use the same spot I used to take out the other two, but WOW does he like to strafe :-P

EDIT:

Latest run is 47 minutes.

The Plasma Launcher Chieftain is actually quite easy if you know how to handle him. Also, there's an lol moment at the beginning when I unknowingly picked up a Spiker by mistake but still manage to recover with the beast Magnum :-)

[Edited on 02.08.2011 2:13 PM PST]

  • 02.08.2011 12:30 PM PDT

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died on the plasma launcher cheiftan round. Ran low on ammo and went down to get more DMR then all the brutes surrounded the place and i got owned. It's so aggravating when your plasma pistols despawn, any remedies to this problem? I try picking them up frequently but they still seem to disappear when the game loads new things.

is that the last wave on the landing pad btw?

[Edited on 02.08.2011 4:00 PM PST]

  • 02.08.2011 3:20 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: Leumas786
died on the plasma rifle cheiftan round. Ran low on ammo and went down to get more DMR then all the brutes surrounded the place and i got owned. It's so aggravating when your plasma pistols despawn, any remedies to this problem? I try picking them up frequently but they still seem to disappear when the game loads new things.

is that the last wave on the landing pad btw?


It is indeed.

When I spoke with one of the devs in regards to the despawns, the only response I received was that picking them up reduces the odds. What you have to remember is that there is a lot of stress on the game during that sequence due to the number of enemies PLUS all the ships being blasted out of the sky. Frame rates suck too. When they disappear, it's what they call "emergency trash elimination". A few things that I think help, though...

1) Don't stray too far from the catwalk (or wherever you leave your weapons). If you do, the game seems to think that you've disregarded it and that it can now despawn the weapon when it needs to.

2) Don't pile weapons up. The game seems to recognize that as a "high stress" area and will deload what it needs to to keep frame rates optimal.

3) Pick them up fairly frequently, particularly if you've just wandered away to get more DMR ammo.

Hope this helps at least a little. Other than that, yes it sucks.

  • 02.08.2011 3:40 PM PDT

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Thanks for the tips, I do tend to put a couple pistols together which I'll avoid from now on. This is the only time in the campaign that I have wished I could carry 3 guns. Usually its not that big of a deal but man would it help.

  • 02.08.2011 3:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tyrant122312
I mainly use the same spot I used to take out the other two,

Thats basically what I do. In the 'eblow' of that catwalk by the doorway. Mid-way between the fence and the wall/fence behind. Strafing between the two invincible sheet metal panels depending upon where he and his buddies are.

Latest run is 47 minutes.
Oooh fancy.

  • 02.08.2011 4:29 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: RC Master
Posted by: Tyrant122312
I mainly use the same spot I used to take out the other two,

Thats basically what I do. In the 'eblow' of that catwalk by the doorway. Mid-way between the fence and the wall/fence behind. Strafing between the two invincible sheet metal panels depending upon where he and his buddies are.


Awesome. I was having a hard time with him on the second floor of the building, so I use the Needle Rifle to kill two of his buddies. This makes him go down the stairs. Now I just save him for last. He's gotten to be rather predictable :-)

Latest run is 47 minutes.
Oooh fancy.


Is the fastest time like 40 minutes? Can't remember...

  • 02.08.2011 4:38 PM PDT

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I agree about the mass driver on PoA. It similiar idea to LNoS, but you have to pass TWO hard parts, not just one (only then to get mercilicly pwned and have to restart.

  • 02.08.2011 5:24 PM PDT

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Fifth Halo: Reach Mythic Conqueror


Posted by: Tyrant122312
When I spoke with one of the devs in regards to the despawns, the only response I received was that picking them up reduces the odds. What you have to remember is that there is a lot of stress on the game during that sequence due to the number of enemies PLUS all the ships being blasted out of the sky. Frame rates suck too. When they disappear, it's what they call "emergency trash elimination". A few things that I think help, though...


I'm surprised you got a response at all, let alone one that wasn't something stupid like, "about 7" or "the plasma pistols don't like you." I didn't think a game developer would help the fans break their game to find out its inner secrets; the fans do a good job of that themselves. Hell, Halo 2 has been out for nearly seven years and we still don't know for sure what triggers the IWHBYD skull.


Posted by: Tyrant122312
Latest run is 47 minutes.
Oooh fancy.


Is the fastest time like 40 minutes? Can't remember...


Probably, but BE IT KNOWN I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO GET THE LEVEL UNDER AN HOUR.

*cough*...Sorry.

[Edited on 02.08.2011 6:26 PM PST]

  • 02.08.2011 6:08 PM PDT