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Subject: Official Halo: Reach *Mythic Difficulty* Guide (LASO for all missions)

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: Michael_Archer

Posted by: Tyrant122312
When I spoke with one of the devs in regards to the despawns, the only response I received was that picking them up reduces the odds. What you have to remember is that there is a lot of stress on the game during that sequence due to the number of enemies PLUS all the ships being blasted out of the sky. Frame rates suck too. When they disappear, it's what they call "emergency trash elimination". A few things that I think help, though...


I'm surprised you got a response at all, let alone one that wasn't something stupid like, "about 7" or "the plasma pistols don't like you." I didn't think a game developer would help the fans break their game to find out its inner secrets; the fans do a good job of that themselves. Hell, Halo 2 has been out for nearly seven years and we still don't know for sure what triggers the IWHBYD skull.


I know them :-)

(and honored to say it)

[Edited on 02.08.2011 7:37 PM PST]

  • 02.08.2011 7:36 PM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
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Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.

Posted by: Tyrant122312

Posted by: Michael_Archer

Posted by: Tyrant122312
When I spoke with one of the devs in regards to the despawns, the only response I received was that picking them up reduces the odds. What you have to remember is that there is a lot of stress on the game during that sequence due to the number of enemies PLUS all the ships being blasted out of the sky. Frame rates suck too. When they disappear, it's what they call "emergency trash elimination". A few things that I think help, though...


I'm surprised you got a response at all, let alone one that wasn't something stupid like, "about 7" or "the plasma pistols don't like you." I didn't think a game developer would help the fans break their game to find out its inner secrets; the fans do a good job of that themselves. Hell, Halo 2 has been out for nearly seven years and we still don't know for sure what triggers the IWHBYD skull.


I know them :-)

(and honored to say it)


For some reason, after reading this, all I could think of was Tyrant's funeral, and me attending it, and just noticing all the Bungie staff there...

... does that make me creepy? Perhaps 3:30 in the morning isn't good for me...

  • 02.09.2011 12:25 AM PDT

When the dust settles, you will learn what true terror is.


Posted by: SHADOWSTRIKE10

all I could think of was Tyrant's funeral, and me attending it, and just noticing all the Bungie staff there...

... does that make me creepy? Perhaps 3:30 in the morning isn't good for me...


It's ok. I fantasize about Tyrant's funeral too. ;)

  • 02.09.2011 6:18 AM PDT
Subject: *Mythic Difficulty* Step by Step for Halo: Reach! (ALL SKULLS ON!!!)

Twenty-ninth Halo 3 Mythic Conqueror
Eleventh Halo 3: ODST Mythic Conqueror
Fifth Halo: Reach Mythic Conqueror

Ok, this is getting creepy...

*cough*

So...Tyrant...I noticed you switched the forum topic to "LASO for all missions". Why is that? I thought "Mythic" was the name, because on LASO you can save and quit.

  • 02.09.2011 12:38 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: Michael_Archer
Ok, this is getting creepy...

*cough*

So...Tyrant...I noticed you switched the forum topic to "LASO for all missions". Why is that? I thought "Mythic" was the name, because on LASO you can save and quit.


Actually, the original title was "Mythic Difficulty (ALL SKULLS ON!!!)" LASO is just a shorter way of saying "legendary all skulls on". Keep in mind that Mythic is always LASO, but LASO isn't always Mythic.

  • 02.09.2011 1:21 PM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.


Posted by: Tyrant122312

Posted by: Michael_Archer
Ok, this is getting creepy...

*cough*

So...Tyrant...I noticed you switched the forum topic to "LASO for all missions". Why is that? I thought "Mythic" was the name, because on LASO you can save and quit.


Actually, the original title was "Mythic Difficulty (ALL SKULLS ON!!!)" LASO is just a shorter way of saying "legendary all skulls on". Keep in mind that Mythic is always LASO, but LASO isn't always Mythic.


Long live Mythic. Alright, about to start into another attempt at LNoS. I've pretty much perfected the rocket gathering. If you guys want to see my strategy, I can make a clip, or we'll just wait for me to finish the mission.

  • 02.09.2011 2:45 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: SHADOWSTRIKE10

Posted by: Tyrant122312

Posted by: Michael_Archer
Ok, this is getting creepy...

*cough*

So...Tyrant...I noticed you switched the forum topic to "LASO for all missions". Why is that? I thought "Mythic" was the name, because on LASO you can save and quit.


Actually, the original title was "Mythic Difficulty (ALL SKULLS ON!!!)" LASO is just a shorter way of saying "legendary all skulls on". Keep in mind that Mythic is always LASO, but LASO isn't always Mythic.


Long live Mythic. Alright, about to start into another attempt at LNoS. I've pretty much perfected the rocket gathering. If you guys want to see my strategy, I can make a clip, or we'll just wait for me to finish the mission.


I'd love to see a clip! :-D

  • 02.09.2011 2:46 PM PDT
Subject: Official Halo: Reach *Mythic Difficulty* Guide (LASO for all missions)

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.


Posted by: Tyrant122312

Posted by: SHADOWSTRIKE10

Posted by: Tyrant122312

Posted by: Michael_Archer
Ok, this is getting creepy...

*cough*

So...Tyrant...I noticed you switched the forum topic to "LASO for all missions". Why is that? I thought "Mythic" was the name, because on LASO you can save and quit.


Actually, the original title was "Mythic Difficulty (ALL SKULLS ON!!!)" LASO is just a shorter way of saying "legendary all skulls on". Keep in mind that Mythic is always LASO, but LASO isn't always Mythic.


Long live Mythic. Alright, about to start into another attempt at LNoS. I've pretty much perfected the rocket gathering. If you guys want to see my strategy, I can make a clip, or we'll just wait for me to finish the mission.


I'd love to see a clip! :-D

Alright I made a clip of my last run attempt. It's available here-

MYTHIC Rocket Gather

I've got it set to render, so it should be available online soon. If anyone wants to see it from multiple angles, just DL and 3rd person it all you want. Hopefully it'll help someone.

[Edited on 02.09.2011 3:01 PM PST]

  • 02.09.2011 3:01 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant

Many thanks :-)

  • 02.09.2011 3:02 PM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.

Omg... So I am going to submit this video for "Mythic Fail Of The Week".

Remember how I said that I perfected my rocket gather? Right. Remember how humans often forget that Spartans are on their side? Right. Remember how those AA guns are shooting at the Seraphs in the air? Well, not all the time...

MYTHIC FAIL by AA gun

  • 02.09.2011 3:19 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant

Thought I did a little bit of tweaking, ultimately it's a very solid method and makes gathering rockets a lot easier. Basically, rather than running inside first, I just use the Wraith to move those two crates to block the Covenant from getting through (beach-side). At that point gathering rockets becomes FAR LESS risky. Though I still recommend using 'nades rather than Wraith mortar. Otherwise you're likely to get the TK flag. Keep Carter in the secondary gunner seat to weaken Elites' shields for easy kills.

Nice find, Shadow :-)

  • 02.09.2011 4:54 PM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.


Posted by: Tyrant122312
Thought I did a little bit of tweaking, ultimately it's a very solid method and makes gathering rockets a lot easier. Basically, rather than running inside first, I just use the Wraith to move those two crates to block the Covenant from getting through (beach-side). At that point gathering rockets becomes FAR LESS risky. Though I still recommend using 'nades rather than Wraith mortar. Otherwise you're likely to get the TK flag. Keep Carter in the secondary gunner seat to weaken Elites' shields for easy kills.

Nice find, Shadow :-)


Yeah, wraith blast is a definite no-no. I tried that for my first time using the method, and it definitely made everyone kill me. I haven't tried pushing the second box. The one box has always done fine for me. I recommend to everyone that you use the wraith to kill the first wave of covies, but if the second wave (after you come back from inside the building) has any elite's with Concussion Rifles, stay out of the wraith, as they can shoot you. Carter will hold them back from coming up the hill. Mostly, this method is a way of securing your area for a safer gather. The only real trouble I've had is when I get greedy and try to use the wraith a little too much and get Concussion Rifled, or if say for some reason, AA guns try to kill me.

For those having issues with driving the Wraith between the rocks, you're not trying to slide your "wing" around the rock. What you should do is try to driving INTO the right on the right hand side, and it sort of pushes you back, and your wing is on the other side of the rock on the left. Sometimes the first squad that gets dropped off has a rocketeer in them, and I'll swap with him, and then melee the two inside, as it's a safer area and lots of time to melee.

[Edited on 02.09.2011 5:15 PM PST]

  • 02.09.2011 5:13 PM PDT

Halo Reach Mythic Conqueror

So I just cleared the landing pad succesfully and now there is a room of elites between me and sweet victory. I can't quite remember what to do exactly in this room and fear the worst.

Was the only elite you (tyrant) killed in that room the sword
guy?


Edit: I see you added a rendered version, i'll check that

[Edited on 02.09.2011 6:18 PM PST]

  • 02.09.2011 6:09 PM PDT

Halo 3 (31st), ODST (14th) and Reach (4th) Mythic Conqueror. (Mythic is Solo, Legendary, All skulls on + scoring on and no deaths/saves).

Staff Writer and speedrun record holder at highspeedhalo.net

Ignorance is the true enemy of all things.

Rocking Bungie.net for over 8 years!

Posted by: Leumas786
Was the only elite you (tyrant) killed in that room the sword
guy?

Field Marshall. He has both an FRG and a sword.

Posted by: SHADOWSTRIKE10
MYTHIC FAIL by AA gun

OMG that sucks!


Posted by: Tyrant122312
Posted by: Leumas786
I just uploaded one to my file share
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=136348 24&player=Leumas%20Loch


I like this method. Though I'm not gonna lie. That initial jump seems a bit tricky. I've been testing it out for about an hour, and in an environment where there are NO enemies and no stress, I can hit the beam most of the time.

That said, on actual runs, it tends to be much more hit or miss, and if you miss, it becomes extremely difficult to recover.

[...] In truth, yes the method does work, but far less often than mine. It's a great method in theory, but even the times that I do make that jump, 9/10 I get to the area behind the Wraith with no shields which puts me at heavy risk if I either get blindsided by the Wraith and its sinister 90-degree mortars, or a Jackal Marksman that survived the initial onslaught.

I would like to explore this a little with you Tyrant, if you don't mind. I'm not trying to change your mind about including it in the guide, deadlines are deadlines, but I really want to find out why our perceptions are different on this.

The initial jump is a bit tricky, I'm not gonna argue that point, but with a bit of practice, a pause behind that rock to line oneself up and recharge sprint, I'm hitting it fairly easily and conistently. The one time I did miss the jump this evening (early on in my hour + exploring these two methods) I was still able to rocket my way through the nearby grunts (since you only need maybe one or two to deal with the grunts/marksmen jackals near the cave) and have another go, which I landed, and was then able to get to the cutscene still.

Now, after the jump, you say you're getting to the area behind the wraith with no shields 9/10 times? I'm assuming this means that, as you crest the hill and see the groups of Grunts and Jackals, you already have no shields right? Having no shields after that fight is a non-issue because of the healthpack right after cutscene (which can also be reloaded at will). So, is it a speed of execution thing? Are you taking your time with the jumps after the sprint jump, onto the orange ledge? Is that where you were getting hit?

Theres potential for taking fire at basically two places: after making the initial sprint-jump and when trying to get onto the appropriate ledge of the first building, and when jumping across to the second building. Getting hit at either place, significantly, was rare when I was testing it this evening. Mantling the first building seemed the most dangerous, with the potential for overcharged PPs from the Grunts catching you there. That only happened once in nearly a dozen attempts at this route (9(ish) of which were complete restarts of the mission).

Generally, I essentially found nearly the opposite to you: I was getting in sight of the grunts and jackals at the cave entrance with full shields more than I arrived there with less than full or completely depleted shields combined.

With regards to the Wraith, I didn't even realise it shot at you while you where there until you mentioned it. The distance it is from you makes the mortor a non-issue if you keep moving.

On the other hand there is the Wraith-rush. In a way I find it amusing that you settled on a (seemingly more successful) sprint-version of an armour-lock tactic I was going to use for my initial completion of the level, until I found you could deload the wraith. At that point I basically thought; "forget it, I can't be bothered to deal with this wraith every time I try the level" and I deloaded it.

It took me several tries this evening to start to get comfortable rushing the wraith, even then I was still running into issues. Once or twice I got decked by a wraith mortor while I was still at the hut trying to headshot the captain in the turret (due to not paying enough attention to them, admittedly). Twice a Minor came up to the Wraith trying to get into the turret, neither succeeded (they ended up just running endlessly into the wraith), but I have seen them get into the turret on occasion, which can prove... troublesome, if you're there trying to hijack the wraith. The wraith splattered me a couple of times, and also successfully mortered me once (twice? foggy now...) while I was very close to it.

After that I had a few scares with the suicide grunts that would sometimes run after Emile and then loop in behind me. I found it much more difficult to attack from the front than from the side.

This may simply boil down to an issue of practice. You've been working on the wraith rush for a while and are quite comfortable with it by now I imagine. While I have, by necessity, practiced going over those roofs a number of times in order to use it for my Legendary speedrun and the couple of attempts at Mythic Speedruns I had. After I had got a bit more comfortable with the wraith rush it was also pretty consistent overall even if it did take a little longer.

In truth, it may be the case that neither method are really preferable for a Mythic novice. Perhaps your instincts are better than mine though, and with the aid of a voice-over and write-up, the nuances of the wraith rush will come more quickly to a newbie than they did for me. Both would seem to take getting used to, to be used effectively.

Thoughts?

----

New topic: one of the offline runners at HSH (i.e. no XBL) discovered a way to get through the Hospital in New Alexandria without having to kill anything: by driving a banshee through it. He hasn't managed to get a video online to show us the whole thing, but from the description he provided I have managed to figure out at least part of it and it looks as if it does have applications for Mythic.

New Alexandria's inherent randomness and the trickyness of grabbing the banshee in the first place will probably keep this from ever being an initial conquerorship method, but for those looking to avoid as many fights as possible or improve their current times, this shows some promise. You might be able to get through the level in something like 15 minutes with this.

[Edited on 02.09.2011 9:01 PM PST]

  • 02.09.2011 7:10 PM PDT

Halo Reach Mythic Conqueror

So in my last playthrough I had some serious weapon despawning issues. At the first smelting room I tried to do the grenade trick to break my sheilds and grab the health pack and right when I picked up the health pack I accidentally got the AR on the wall and my DMR instantly disappeared. This one wasn't that big of a deal since there is a large cache in the next smelting room. Then in the room with the 2 grunts and jackal before the landing pad I was juggling the plasma pistol with my DMR out to the pad and my DMR instantly disappeared again.

Any idea why this would happen? I'm not even in high activity areas.

  • 02.09.2011 9:23 PM PDT

Just completed my second mythic run yesterday. Thanks again for all the tips and discussion guys! After some unsuccessful attempts at Sword Base earlier in the week I decided to have a go at Tip Of The Spear instead.

Got lucky with the Wraiths and had them both head off the cliffs - just one to begin with, but after a bit more of side-to-side at the back (mainly just to decide on a good spot to take it on) the other was nice enough to head over the edge too.

I was worried about the elite at the end, and had planned to try and copy what I saw in last weeks Fails of the Weak video, where the player parked the banshee up there just outside the door and the elite hopped in it rather than continuing its charging run. (More difficult than the usual methods, perhaps? I could never pull off the jetpack last-second technique though.) While I had the banshee move work perfectly in a practice run, I didn't get so lucky this time - he totally ignored it. As a result of making a mess back on the ground with trying to get a banshee and not hit by some of the guys left behind, it so happened that I was up there with only a focus rifle... so I hopped in the banshee, went for the splatter, and got lucky (as well as not getting in it, he seemmed to be in no hurry to duck back inside, which was nice!).

I am thinking I'll have a go at the Package next, I love that level.

[Edited on 02.10.2011 1:41 AM PST]

  • 02.10.2011 1:39 AM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: Leumas786
So in my last playthrough I had some serious weapon despawning issues. At the first smelting room I tried to do the grenade trick to break my sheilds and grab the health pack and right when I picked up the health pack I accidentally got the AR on the wall and my DMR instantly disappeared. This one wasn't that big of a deal since there is a large cache in the next smelting room. Then in the room with the 2 grunts and jackal before the landing pad I was juggling the plasma pistol with my DMR out to the pad and my DMR instantly disappeared again.

Any idea why this would happen? I'm not even in high activity areas.


I've had the DMR disappear on me before as well. It ends up "falling through the floor" on occasion. They've had this issue since Halo 3, though. It's just one of those things that happens. The only thing I can recommend is to juggle carefully.

@RC

Of course I'm willing to test with you :-) Like I said, I don't think it's an issue of it not working so much as it is the jump always seems to come as a coin toss for me. It could just be me, but it was easier for me to get a grasp on the Wraith's behaviors than it was to land that jump every time. And even with the Wraith there is a bit of room for error. for example, if you see a Brute approaching the Wraith, you can easily backtrack and take out the secondary gunner from afar, whereas if you mess up one of the jumps, getting back usually resulted in death (for me at least).

I usually lose my shields from the initial jump and trying to get down to the orange ledge (I have to be careful when doing it because I've slipped and fallen too many times). So that's where it mainly occurs. But one of the other reasons why I choose my route over the others is for easy accessibility to the three Needle Rifles at in that back area. I find that if I go hunting for them when trying to the jump skip, I spend roughly the same if not more time trying to hunt down at least two than I would if I had just rushed the Wraith.

I think it comes down to a matter of choice, but I chose my route primarily because I believe that in the scenario painted in my latest run, I had far more control over what was happening than I did when it came to the jumps.

  • 02.10.2011 2:31 AM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: Dannye 36
Just completed my second mythic run yesterday. Thanks again for all the tips and discussion guys! After some unsuccessful attempts at Sword Base earlier in the week I decided to have a go at Tip Of The Spear instead.

Got lucky with the Wraiths and had them both head off the cliffs - just one to begin with, but after a bit more of side-to-side at the back (mainly just to decide on a good spot to take it on) the other was nice enough to head over the edge too.

I was worried about the elite at the end, and had planned to try and copy what I saw in last weeks Fails of the Weak video, where the player parked the banshee up there just outside the door and the elite hopped in it rather than continuing its charging run. (More difficult than the usual methods, perhaps? I could never pull off the jetpack last-second technique though.) While I had the banshee move work perfectly in a practice run, I didn't get so lucky this time - he totally ignored it. As a result of making a mess back on the ground with trying to get a banshee and not hit by some of the guys left behind, it so happened that I was up there with only a focus rifle... so I hopped in the banshee, went for the splatter, and got lucky (as well as not getting in it, he seemmed to be in no hurry to duck back inside, which was nice!).

I am thinking I'll have a go at the Package next, I love that level.


Way to go on your two Mythic missions! I had tons of fun with The Package, personally :-)

  • 02.10.2011 2:33 AM PDT

When the dust settles, you will learn what true terror is.


Posted by: Tyrant122312

I think it comes down to a matter of choice, but I chose my route primarily because I believe that in the scenario painted in my latest run, I had far more control over what was happening than I did when it came to the jumps.


So the question isn't so much which route is easier, or faster, but whether or not you're a control freak. ;)

  • 02.10.2011 7:13 AM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.

Posted by: Dannye 36
Got lucky with the Wraiths and had them both head off the cliffs - just one to begin with, but after a bit more of side-to-side at the back (mainly just to decide on a good spot to take it on) the other was nice enough to head over the edge too.


Don't know if you saw, but a few months ago, I posted how to male them both fall off almost 100% of the time. For future reference, while you're in your purple car (I can't remember the name of it for the life of me, I keep thinking Locust from Halo Wars), jump off the cliff, kill the 3 jackals, then head left. As soon as you see the checkpoint hit (the video will lag for a second), head right. Do so quickly, and pop out around the right side. If you did this correctly, they should both be gone now. If not, go back to the left side one more time and turn around again at that checkpoint.

EDIT: just checked out Tyrant's TotS guide, and he's got a vid how to do it as well (I cant see it right now since I'm on iPhone, but I'm sure he's got a good strategy.)

[Edited on 02.10.2011 7:41 AM PST]

  • 02.10.2011 7:34 AM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: General Khazard

Posted by: Tyrant122312

I think it comes down to a matter of choice, but I chose my route primarily because I believe that in the scenario painted in my latest run, I had far more control over what was happening than I did when it came to the jumps.


So the question isn't so much which route is easier, or faster, but whether or not you're a control freak. ;)


They don't call me "Tyrant" because of my good looks... or should I say just because of my good looks XD

@ Shadow

Yes, I included your method in the guide and gave you credit :-)

  • 02.10.2011 8:16 AM PDT

Twenty-ninth Halo 3 Mythic Conqueror
Eleventh Halo 3: ODST Mythic Conqueror
Fifth Halo: Reach Mythic Conqueror


Posted by: SHADOWSTRIKE10
Omg... So I am going to submit this video for "Mythic Fail Of The Week".

Remember how I said that I perfected my rocket gather? Right. Remember how humans often forget that Spartans are on their side? Right. Remember how those AA guns are shooting at the Seraphs in the air? Well, not all the time...

MYTHIC FAIL by AA gun


Shadow, your video made me mad.

Mad, in the sense that, why the HELL can the covenant recognize me as a heretic spartan from miles away in a perfectly intact banshee or wraith, but the humans shoot at me no matter what?

  • 02.10.2011 6:27 PM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.

Posted by: Tyrant122312

Posted by: General Khazard

Posted by: Tyrant122312

I think it comes down to a matter of choice, but I chose my route primarily because I believe that in the scenario painted in my latest run, I had far more control over what was happening than I did when it came to the jumps.


So the question isn't so much which route is easier, or faster, but whether or not you're a control freak. ;)


They don't call me "Tyrant" because of my good looks... or should I say just because of my good looks XD

@ Shadow

Yes, I included your method in the guide and gave you credit :-)


Oh! I totally didn't notice that when I first looked at it. Thanks I really appreciate it :). Glad it could make it in there. To add onto what you were saying, the elite doesn't really matter too much. More often than not, the elite will get distracted by the falcon along with the two hunters, and I can sneak up behind him and assassinate him without much notice.

And Tyrant, if it wasn't for your good looks, I would've given up on Mythic a long time ago.

Posted by: Michael_Archer

Posted by: SHADOWSTRIKE10
Omg... So I am going to submit this video for "Mythic Fail Of The Week".

Remember how I said that I perfected my rocket gather? Right. Remember how humans often forget that Spartans are on their side? Right. Remember how those AA guns are shooting at the Seraphs in the air? Well, not all the time...

MYTHIC FAIL by AA gun


Shadow, your video made me mad.

Mad, in the sense that, why the HELL can the covenant recognize me as a heretic spartan from miles away in a perfectly intact banshee or wraith, but the humans shoot at me no matter what?


Oh I know! It's such crap, right? I was like "wtf just happened?" I figured I drove over a grenade and somehow set it off or something.

I threw a message to Urk in case he needed a blame stosh, but I dont think it'll come to fruition.

[Edited on 02.10.2011 9:21 PM PST]

  • 02.10.2011 9:11 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant

@ RC Master

As I was editing the guide, I did go ahead and make mention of your "left-side skip" method--as I've grown to call it (as I also mentioned the Mongoose skip as well). If you can upload a rendered version of it (obviously once it's rendered it doesn't need to stay in your file share), then I can link it in the guide :-)

Btw, due to the issues HBO had with its site earlier in the week, the final two chapters of the guide have been delayed. However, since what I'm doing for Lone Wolf is a bit more... complex... then than what I usually do, I'm going to need to wind Pillar of Autumn to a close over the weekend.

  • 02.11.2011 4:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: Tyrant122312
@ RC Master

As I was editing the guide, I did go ahead and make mention of your "left-side skip" method--as I've grown to call it (as I also mentioned the Mongoose skip as well). If you can upload a rendered version of it then I can link it in the guide :-)


OK. I can do this. I'll get a clip where I'm not going uber-pro speedrunner style and take my time on the jumps and stuff. I might see if I can find a nice spot on the rocks to deal with the Jackals and Grunts to.

I'll upload a clip either later on today, or tomorrow morning if thats ok.

Posted by: Tyrant122312
[...] the jump always seems to come as a coin toss for me.

What I found myself doing was making the jump, and then just after the peak of it, letting go of the sticks and allowing the momentum to land me where I needed to be. I found that if I was trying to push myself into the little corner during the landing I would simply end up overshooting.

Speaking of tricky jumps on PoA, for a long while I really struggled trying to do that final jump up to the rafters in Smelting Room 1. Eventually I figured out that the trick was to get the hieght first, and then sort of 'push' yourself onto the ledge. Sort of like a curve rather that jumping to it in a diagonal, straight line.

Its funny how jumps in Halo have these nuances that you just sort of grasp automatically and are like HUH? when other people can't do the same.

[...] whereas if you mess up one of the jumps, getting back usually resulted in death (for me at least).
While you were running back to the spot to jump? Hmmm.

In the clip I could fake a fail if you like (or you might get a real one!), and then do the jump again. I remembered that there is actually another healthpack inside the building that you jump to so, I could show failing, shooting a couple of rockets at the grunts, then running inside for a fresh healthpack.

Or is that going overboard?

Maybe I'll play around with shooting the nearest Grunts first, then doing the jump.

I usually lose my shields from the initial jump and trying to get down to the orange ledge
Down to? You mean up, right?

[..] Needle Rifles at in that back area. I find that if I go hunting for them when trying to the jump skip, I spend roughly the same if not more time trying to hunt down at least two than I would if I had just rushed the Wraith.
Hmm. Fair point. They do get quite scattered.

  • 02.11.2011 9:23 AM PDT