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Subject: Official Halo: Reach *Mythic Difficulty* Guide (LASO for all missions)

Halo Reach Mythic Conqueror


Posted by: RC Master
I just set a new time on Long Night of Solace: around 35 minutes. Getting the exact time now.


Impressive, I feel like it usually takes me that long to get to the corvette. On LNoS do you include unskippable cutscene time?

  • 07.22.2011 8:06 AM PDT

Halo 3 (31st), ODST (14th) and Reach (4th) Mythic Conqueror. (Mythic is Solo, Legendary, All skulls on + scoring on and no deaths/saves).

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Posted by: RC Master
I just set a new time on Long Night of Solace: around 35 minutes. Getting the exact time now.


Impressive, I feel like it usually takes me that long to get to the corvette. On LNoS do you include unskippable cutscene time?

In terms of speed running timings, we (HSH) take the amount of time that the player was actually 'in-game' controlling their character. Cutscenes don't count. I use the theatre time-bar to get timestamps for the in and out point of each section.

I timed it out to be 33:11. Thats an improvement of nearly 12 minutes on my old time.
Stats, Film.

Feels good to finally have a reasonably clean run of that level :)

My personal total time for the levels combined is now 2:49:55! Sub-3-hours! WOOT!

  • 07.22.2011 8:28 AM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant

Awesome, RC! Looking forward to checking out the footage :-)

  • 07.22.2011 9:25 AM PDT

Halo Reach 2/3rds of the way mythic conqueror (6/9)


Posted by: RC Master

Posted by: Leumas786

Posted by: RC Master
I just set a new time on Long Night of Solace: around 35 minutes. Getting the exact time now.


Impressive, I feel like it usually takes me that long to get to the corvette. On LNoS do you include unskippable cutscene time?

In terms of speed running timings, we (HSH) take the amount of time that the player was actually 'in-game' controlling their character. Cutscenes don't count. I use the theatre time-bar to get timestamps for the in and out point of each section.

I timed it out to be 33:11. Thats an improvement of nearly 12 minutes on my old time.
Stats, Film.

Feels good to finally have a reasonably clean run of that level :)

My personal total time for the levels combined is now 2:49:55! Sub-3-hours! WOOT!



Rendering now. I thought it was legendary but mythic! you are one beast of a player RC!

  • 07.22.2011 10:21 AM PDT

just watched yor video, massive kudos to you for doing that, must have taken so many attempts :D

[Edited on 07.22.2011 12:55 PM PDT]

  • 07.22.2011 12:54 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant

Enjoyed the film a lot, bro. One thing I discovered is that the second hangar battle and cannon room are BOTH easily skippable. The trick I have yet to figure out is an easy way of getting back through the cannon room with three Elites accompanied by a squad of Grunts and Jackals standing in your way...

  • 07.22.2011 5:19 PM PDT

All of my Mythic runs are up now and YES they are all online....The worst was my Long Night....watch it and see how many epic fails happened that I live through or how many things I set up just to have it not work, ALAS, I made it through it without disconnecting. I swear my internet hates me. I would make it through most of these just to lose connection at the end. As I said before, I am #21. PUT ME ON THE LIST!

  • 07.22.2011 5:26 PM PDT

Halo 3 (31st), ODST (14th) and Reach (4th) Mythic Conqueror. (Mythic is Solo, Legendary, All skulls on + scoring on and no deaths/saves).

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Ignorance is the true enemy of all things.

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Posted by: AlpineFroggy
Rendering now.

Wow! Thank you! I will repay you with... a mention in the commentary!

:D

I thought it was legendary but mythic! you are one beast of a player RC!
Pffft, dude, Legendary is 18:24. Keep up ;)

Posted by: scooby dubey
just watched yor video, massive kudos to you for doing that, must have taken so many attempts :D

I've been trying here and there for months *_*

Posted by: Tyrant122312
Enjoyed the film a lot, bro. One thing I discovered is that the second hangar battle

The two Elites and 4 Grunts immediately after the cutscene in which Jorge lands inside? Hmmm. You go round through the right door rather than the left? and jump behind them? Do they de-spawn by the time you come back?

and cannon room [...] easily skippable.
Figured. So far it's been a case of 'I'd rather have them dead!'

The trick I have yet to figure out is an easy way of getting back through the cannon room with three Elites accompanied by a squad of Grunts and Jackals standing in your way...

I tempted to have a look for myself, at least with the hanger battle skip...

OH GOD I'M CONSIDERING RUNNING LNoS AGAIN WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME!!?!?!?

Also, did I tell you guys that I was considering running PoA again, to try and kill a 4th Phantom during the Holdout?

I am mad.


Posted by: W1leyDaSPARTAN2
All of my Mythic runs are up now and YES they are all online.

I've checked the stats and queued them all up and will verify the films tomorrow.

[Edited on 07.22.2011 5:55 PM PDT]

  • 07.22.2011 5:54 PM PDT

thank you RC, btw, that 33 min LNoS was insane, I wonder how many controllers you have broken? Nevertheless, it was amazing watching you speed through that horrible level.

  • 07.22.2011 6:00 PM PDT

Halo Reach 2/3rds of the way mythic conqueror (6/9)

Also on LNoS that is my next mission. From start rocket gathering is giving me no trouble. Corvette little trouble but the space battles are the ones that are kind of killing me. (litterly)

As for using the wraith to gather rockets I have tryed but most of the time it just gets stuck time after time because these sandbags prevent me from taking it any further.

  • 07.22.2011 6:11 PM PDT

Halo 3 (31st), ODST (14th) and Reach (4th) Mythic Conqueror. (Mythic is Solo, Legendary, All skulls on + scoring on and no deaths/saves).

Staff Writer and speedrun record holder at highspeedhalo.net

Ignorance is the true enemy of all things.

Rocking Bungie.net for over 8 years!

All of W1leyDaSPARTAN2's films check out. Congratulations Noble 21!

The way you did the start of Winter Contingency was quite novel; hadn't see that before - going up the rocks and over the second lot of buildings.
Posted by: W1leyDaSPARTAN2
I wonder how many controllers you have broken?

I'm on my fourth since 2006. The others either have wonky sticks or the rumble doesn't work properly anymore. I mean, they're not totally trashed, just... not optimal. >_<

Posted by: AlpineFroggy
Also on LNoS that is my next mission. From start rocket gathering is giving me no trouble. Corvette little trouble but the space battles are the ones that are kind of killing me. (litterly)

Try what I do in space. It's more or less the same tactic on Legendary and Mythic. Message me if you don't understand anything from the video.

As for using the wraith to gather rockets I have tryed but most of the time it just gets stuck time after time because these sandbags prevent me from taking it any further. Use the right bumper (default layout) to raise the front of the Wraith slightly, that should help you get over.

  • 07.23.2011 5:48 AM PDT
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I'd like to draw your attention to the Halo 3 forum for my new Halo 3 speedrun. ;)
It's been a while.

  • 07.23.2011 7:02 AM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: RC Master
As for using the wraith to gather rockets I have tryed but most of the time it just gets stuck time after time because these sandbags prevent me from taking it any further.[/quote] Use the right bumper (default layout) to raise the front of the Wraith slightly, that should help you get over.


Just to add to this, if you're facing the structure and the sandbag wall is between you and the building, it's far easier to boost over the furthest point on the left than it is anywhere else. I'll be displaying a detailed video in TPM (Third Person Mythic) later on in the season.

In other news...

Speaking of TPM, I'm in the midst of putting a cast together for the show. Keep in mind that we're featuring both solo runs AND Quad-Mythic runs led by yours truly. The teams can be interchangable (as they have been all along anyway) but I'd prefer to be in the parties that are featured in the series. Thus far we have:

1) I The Tyrant I
2) Sangheilioz
3) ShadowStrike1
4) CruelLEGACY
5) Leumas Loch
6) Michael Archer
7) StaroceanZero
8) Naked Eli

I'm still looking for one more. RC Master is at the top of my list if he's game, but I know he also lives over seas, and timing can be an issue, so that's up to him.

EDIT: For those who are interested and have completed at least TWO games on Mythic Difficulty, please send me a PM with your email address. I'm asking that you are least the age of 18 and are willing to set aside at least a small amount of time a week for this.

Thanks!

[Edited on 07.23.2011 9:13 AM PDT]

  • 07.23.2011 7:12 AM PDT

Halo Reach 2/3rds of the way mythic conqueror (6/9)

Alright I am ready for space. Cooms room, no problem. Hanger no problem. Cannon room. well most of the time this part takes me a while as they are most of the time alerted. The problem with it is that when I focus on peppering one elite that elite eventually forgets about me and runs to the other side of the room and I am not able to retaliate without the other elite killing me. This also happens with one elite except his shields recharge too fast to actually peg him and keep them down.

  • 07.23.2011 9:29 AM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: AlpineFroggy
Alright I am ready for space. Cooms room, no problem. Hanger no problem. Cannon room. well most of the time this part takes me a while as they are most of the time alerted. The problem with it is that when I focus on peppering one elite that elite eventually forgets about me and runs to the other side of the room and I am not able to retaliate without the other elite killing me. This also happens with one elite except his shields recharge too fast to actually peg him and keep them down.


I'm working on a skip for the cannon room. In the mean time, if you kill the two in the hangar fast enough and allow the Marines to die, you can usually slip into the cannon room without the two Elites being alerted to your presence.

  • 07.23.2011 9:31 AM PDT

Halo Reach 2/3rds of the way mythic conqueror (6/9)


Posted by: Tyrant122312

Posted by: AlpineFroggy
Alright I am ready for space. Cooms room, no problem. Hanger no problem. Cannon room. well most of the time this part takes me a while as they are most of the time alerted. The problem with it is that when I focus on peppering one elite that elite eventually forgets about me and runs to the other side of the room and I am not able to retaliate without the other elite killing me. This also happens with one elite except his shields recharge too fast to actually peg him and keep them down.


I'm working on a skip for the cannon room. In the mean time, if you kill the two in the hangar fast enough and allow the Marines to die, you can usually slip into the cannon room without the two Elites being alerted to your presence.


A skip, tell me more please.

  • 07.23.2011 9:33 AM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

Best Regards,
The Tyrant


Posted by: AlpineFroggy

Posted by: Tyrant122312

Posted by: AlpineFroggy
Alright I am ready for space. Cooms room, no problem. Hanger no problem. Cannon room. well most of the time this part takes me a while as they are most of the time alerted. The problem with it is that when I focus on peppering one elite that elite eventually forgets about me and runs to the other side of the room and I am not able to retaliate without the other elite killing me. This also happens with one elite except his shields recharge too fast to actually peg him and keep them down.


I'm working on a skip for the cannon room. In the mean time, if you kill the two in the hangar fast enough and allow the Marines to die, you can usually slip into the cannon room without the two Elites being alerted to your presence.


A skip, tell me more please.


Both the second hangar battle AND the cannon room can be skipped. When the three doors in the hangar room open, run through the right-hand door, behind the Elites, and down in the cannon room. Then you can run across the back of the room, jump down, and head straight for the bridge without any enemies following you. I did this a few times last week, and it was easy as pie. The problem lies in the return. The enemies are still in the cannon room, PLUS since you didn't block off any of the doors, you'll have those guys to deal with as well. If I could find an easy way to get from the bridge back through the cannon room and back to the hangar while avoiding the cannon room foes, it'd be a golden skip. Perhaps if I can't do it this weekend, one of you will figure something out? Like maybe using the concussion rifle from the bridge to jump up to the upper level without getting shot? That might be an option.

[Edited on 07.23.2011 11:21 AM PDT]

  • 07.23.2011 11:20 AM PDT

Posted by: Tyrant122312
Speaking of TPM, I'm in the midst of putting a cast together for the show. Keep in mind that we're featuring both solo runs AND Quad-Mythic runs led by yours truly. The teams can be interchangable (as they have been all along anyway) but I'd prefer to be in the parties that are featured in the series. Thus far we have:

1) I The Tyrant I
2) Sangheilioz
3) ShadowStrike1
4) CruelLEGACY
5) Leumas Loch
6) Michael Archer
7) StaroceanZero
8) Naked Eli

I'm still looking for one more. RC Master is at the top of my list if he's game, but I know he also lives over seas, and timing can be an issue, so that's up to him.

EDIT: For those who are interested and have completed at least TWO games on Mythic Difficulty, please send me a PM with your email address. I'm asking that you are least the age of 18 and are willing to set aside at least a small amount of time a week for this.

Thanks!


:D You should have my email already but I'll send it to you anyway. Looking forward to more quad-mythic!

  • 07.23.2011 12:38 PM PDT

Halo 3 (31st), ODST (14th) and Reach (4th) Mythic Conqueror. (Mythic is Solo, Legendary, All skulls on + scoring on and no deaths/saves).

Staff Writer and speedrun record holder at highspeedhalo.net

Ignorance is the true enemy of all things.

Rocking Bungie.net for over 8 years!


Posted by: Tyrant122312
The problem lies in the return. The enemies are still in the cannon room,

The two Elites from the post-cutscene fight are still there when you come back too. Or at least they were for me, on a heroic+misc skulls practice run.

BUT, they might have their backs turned, looking into the hanger, so you might be able to land two assassinations. The grunts might still be around too, but they're easy with the NR you will surely be carrying.

Like maybe using the concussion rifle from the bridge to jump up to the upper level without getting shot? That might be an option.
So, are you still trapping the ultra that runs into the bridge with the sword-pushed boxes? If you didn't you'd have potentially 4 Elites in the cannon room! :O

You know that box at the top of the ramp next to the entrance to the cannon room? Perhaps you could knock that to the other side of the ramp, next to the door, with a grenade to give yourself a little cover as the door opens? Then just use the 'server racks' to jump up to the next level.

Just throwing ideas out there, I'm AFC for the next two weeks so I can't test this myself.

  • 07.23.2011 4:34 PM PDT

Halo 3 Mythic Conqueror #11
ODST Mythic Conqueror #2
Reach Mythic Conqueror #2
Halo: CEA Mythic Conqueror #1
Halo 4 Mythic Conqueror #1

So I was perusing the legendary speedruns at HighSpeedHalo formulating plans for CE Mythic and so far these things seem to be very important for CE Mythic:

1. Either snipe like an absolute god or swallow your pride and use blu-tack (when sniping).

2. Know your skips and tricks. The pros put out videos for a reason, might as well use 'em. I.e. Invincibility during the overshields charging.

3. Spawn camp the enemy phantoms and abuse sticky grenades. Stick an elite just before he gets off the phantom and weaken the other one's shields and you'll take em both out.

Now in the end these things are reliant on what skulls will be in Anniversary. 343 said they don't want to change AI behaviour and traits too much so it's possible stuff like tough luck, thunderstorm, mythic etc will be removed. If they are, well Mythic just got a whole lot simpler, but if not, well it's gonna be a total -blam!-. That's what I foresee.

Also with regards to Grunt Funeral, y'know personally all skulls to me means ALL SKULLS, despite whether you gain an advantage or not. I picked up Assassins in Halo 2 when doing all skulls on easy, and the invisible enemy trait was evil but I still got up to The Oracle in the end anyway with that handicap. If I can make Mythic any little bit easier for myself come Anniversary (cause face it, CE legendary was pretty evil on its own, even for those who were pretty experienced at it) I'll take the help in a heartbeat.

  • 07.23.2011 4:39 PM PDT

Halo Reach 2/3rds of the way mythic conqueror (6/9)


Posted by: RC Master

Posted by: Tyrant122312
The problem lies in the return. The enemies are still in the cannon room,

The two Elites from the post-cutscene fight are still there when you come back too. Or at least they were for me, on a heroic+misc skulls practice run.

BUT, they might have their backs turned, looking into the hanger, so you might be able to land two assassinations. The grunts might still be around too, but they're easy with the NR you will surely be carrying.

Like maybe using the concussion rifle from the bridge to jump up to the upper level without getting shot? That might be an option.
So, are you still trapping the ultra that runs into the bridge with the sword-pushed boxes? If you didn't you'd have potentially 4 Elites in the cannon room! :O

You know that box at the top of the ramp next to the entrance to the cannon room? Perhaps you could knock that to the other side of the ramp, next to the door, with a grenade to give yourself a little cover as the door opens? Then just use the 'server racks' to jump up to the next level.

Just throwing ideas out there, I'm AFC for the next two weeks so I can't test this myself.


Just palying around a little bit but maybe it would be possible to blast the container at the begining of the cannon room to the bottom and the other side of the room it works as a way to get back up to the top of the upper part. The only problem with not killing the enimies is that I have had some inbound plasma nades and elite assinations.
I will also try for Long night of mythic tommorow morning. Wish me luck.

  • 07.23.2011 6:00 PM PDT
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Lost in translation

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  • 07.23.2011 6:09 PM PDT

Twenty-ninth Halo 3 Mythic Conqueror
Eleventh Halo 3: ODST Mythic Conqueror
Fifth Halo: Reach Mythic Conqueror

Something being organized by Tyrant without my knowledge? And he included me without asking?

Awesome! What are we doing?

I'm asking that you are least the age of 18 and are willing to set aside at least a small amount of time a week for this.

*facepalm* Guess that means that I, Aura and Dark are off the team.

They're not even there? Guess just I'm gone then.

[Edited on 07.23.2011 6:20 PM PDT]

  • 07.23.2011 6:13 PM PDT

Halo 3 Mythic Conqueror #11
ODST Mythic Conqueror #2
Reach Mythic Conqueror #2
Halo: CEA Mythic Conqueror #1
Halo 4 Mythic Conqueror #1

Posted by: Michael_Archer
Something being organized by Tyrant without my knowledge? And he included me without asking?

Awesome! What are we doing?

I'm asking that you are least the age of 18 and are willing to set aside at least a small amount of time a week for this.

*facepalm* Guess that means that I, Aura and Dark are off the team.

They're not even there? Guess just I'm gone then.

I don't know about Dark, but I wasn't asked anyway. Living in Australia aka lousy internet capital of the World might have had something to do with it. Besides, I've got Uni starting up again tomorrow so I'd be unavailable 4 days of the week anyway.

  • 07.23.2011 9:13 PM PDT

Twenty-ninth Halo 3 Mythic Conqueror
Eleventh Halo 3: ODST Mythic Conqueror
Fifth Halo: Reach Mythic Conqueror

You're going to university and you're only seventeen?

That's what I get for being in February.

  • 07.23.2011 9:36 PM PDT