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First and foremost, I would ask that any staff member that comes across this topic to, just this one time, make an exception for the rules stating that any discussion about Hidden League Gaming (HLG) is prohibited, as I would like to have a civil conversation about it.

For you members who do not know what Hidden League Gaming is, it is basically the practice of obtaining the lead in a matchmaking game, and then hiding somewhere the other team isn't likely to look.

For those of you who do know what Hidden League Gaming is (which for the sake of shortness I will now abbreviate as HLG), I humbly ask that you give your opinions about the group in a calm and civilized manner.

Now, on to my main argument regarding HLG. In the Halo 3 Forum Rules topic, it refers to HLG as a "griefing" clan. I regard this as a generalization, as only a handful of the people who hide in matchmaking do it deliberately to make the other team angry. Saying that HLG is for griefing alone in itself is a stereotype, and only applies to, as said before, a handful of members.

I suppose my main argument here is why HLG or hiding on the other team is such a taboo method of playing Halo matchmaking. Hiding is merely a tactic, not much different than guerrilla warfare (which, I point out, is utilized in the first part of the Halo 3 campaign mission Sierra 117). Seeing as such, hiding can be no more illegal in Halo 3 than can be camping, spawn-trapping, or any other tactic that one playing Halo 3 matchmaking might use. Now, if Bungie took action against this method of playing Halo 3, why haven't they taken action against any other? This is a blatant form of prejudice, as stated before, against an HLG stereotype.

Now I know some of you might be thinking: "Well, given the fact that there is a clear method of disposing of campers and such, I don't think HLG can fall into the category of a tactic/method". While I respect your opinion, this is know way close to the truth. As stated, campers can be dealt with by not rushing and playing smart; however, the same can be applied to getting rid of hiders, in most cases. Just look up, around, anywhere you wouldn't expect a Spartan or Dinosaur to be. It's as simple as that. This method of finding rules out hiding as unfair or cheating, sure it might be cheap, but is camping not?

In the last paragraph there, you might have noticed I said "in most cases" in regard to getting rid of hiders by playing smart; however, there are some hiding spots that the other team could have no hope of retaliating against the hider in: a foolproof spot, if you will. In these cases, I would agree and enforce Bungie's current opinion of blocking these hiding spots and only these hiding spots, as it truly is unfair for the other team. However, if a hider can be found merely by looking up (a good example of this is the sniper ledge on Guardian), then the hider should not be punished or prosecuted by means of having the spot be taken away, as there is a way that a member of the opposing team could kill them

Well, I spent an upwards of twenty minutes writing this, so as stated before, I would appreciate it if a staff member gives this thread a chance to flourish into a calm and collected debate. If you deem it necessary to lock this topic, so be it, it will not stop me from being a cog in the machine that will soon take over the world.

Ciao.

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  • 09.11.2010 9:01 AM PDT

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Little late bro.

  • 09.11.2010 9:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sublyme

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First and foremost, I would ask that any staff member that comes across this topic to, just this one time, make an exception for the rules stating that any discussion about Hidden League Gaming (HLG) is prohibited, as I would like to have a civil conversation about it.


You should have PM'd a master moderator before posting this thread.


It would have been wise to, but I doubt they would have glanced over my message. I can only hope that they grant leniency for this one topic.

  • 09.11.2010 9:04 AM PDT

Seems to me that anyone who is "HLG" or puts such a label on themself is a complete coward because anyone can run and hide. If they are so good, why not just finish the game legitimately?

  • 09.11.2010 10:25 AM PDT

one time i was playing a team slayer game and all of the enemy team was hiding anyone else have the same promblem

  • 09.11.2010 11:05 AM PDT
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i think OP is mad bngie removed his favorite HLG jumps so now he can't hide in MM anymore.

  • 09.11.2010 11:06 AM PDT
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i think OP is mad bngie removed his favorite HLG jumps so now he can't hide in MM anymore.


Lol.

You're so stupid.


Lol. thats all you say? no fact as to why?

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  • 09.11.2010 11:23 AM PDT

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I dont mind HLG ( I used to do it about a year ago when I sucked at halo) but I will say that I would prefer people not to hide so I dont have to wait another 5 minutes for the game to end, also most people who do hide still lose ( maybe not all the time, but usually when I verse HLG, I usually win).

People that usually do complain about HLG don't know the maps well enough, so stop complaining about it and learn how to combat it (I'm not saying that the OP was Complaining, I'm saying this to everyone who does comaplain about HLG) Same goes with camping, just play smart and it should not be a problem.

  • 09.11.2010 11:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: electroninja3
i think OP is mad bngie removed his favorite HLG jumps so now he can't hide in MM anymore.


I'm not mad, just frustrated that Bungie deems it necessary to block spots in which hiders can clearly be seen in.

I asked for a clear discussion about it, if you have nothing to bring to the table, then please remove yourself from my topic.

  • 09.11.2010 2:07 PM PDT

Don't Take Everything Serious.


Thank You! ^_^

Posted by: Bean_88
Seems to me that anyone who is "HLG" or puts such a label on themself is a complete coward because anyone can run and hide. If they are so good, why not just finish the game legitimately?


You can't be Hidden League Gaming.

And people who hide are usually among the best players and know how to have fun which games are all about.

[Edited on 09.11.2010 2:13 PM PDT]

  • 09.11.2010 2:10 PM PDT