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Subject: Halo Reach DMR Makes Me Go Back To Halo 3

I think you'll find every Halo game revolves around "power-weapon horing", I love Halo and all, but that's where CoD wins, it's not just "omg let's grab the rockets, sword and shottie and we win". Just such a huge difference between a) the one hit kills with those weapons and b)the 5 skillful headshots required with the DMR, which can be made harder by all the cover available.
Also, a skill of 10 or a skill of 50 means nothing. 50 requires more time and luck, hoping you get good team mates. Yes, your own personal skill does in fact come in to play, but as I type this, I just finished losing 5 games of Reach, each game I'm getting a K/D of over 10, and getting stuck with people getting -5 or more.
This also happened in Halo 3, and CoD isn't immune either, the rank in Halo 3 doesn't reflect personal skill 100%, rather how lucky you are with getting good teammates/bad opponents, with a small contribution of your skill.

If you are having trouble with the DMR, don't spam like most BR lovers are, taking time in shooting IS skill, I'm happy blooming has been added, makes Halo less spray n pray, and more rewarding for accuracy like CoD.

I also can't stand power weapons, however it is a part of Halo, although a bad part at that, and even though it will never happen, I would love to see a game mode that is exactly the same as your normal slayer types, but with none of these weapons. Or even better, a more balance gameplay. How is it fair that 1 hit from a Shottie, or 1 rocket in a 20 foot radius can kill you, yet it takes 5 Headshots from a DMR?

It's just one of those things....

  • 10.05.2010 3:42 AM PDT
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BS, halo 3 BR was a horrible spread weapon. You probably just miss sweeping one-shots tbh

  • 10.05.2010 5:57 AM PDT


Posted by: Strahany
I think you'll find every Halo game revolves around "power-weapon horing", I love Halo and all, but that's where CoD wins, it's not just "omg let's grab the rockets, sword and shottie and we win". Just such a huge difference between a) the one hit kills with those weapons and b)the 5 skillful headshots required with the DMR, which can be made harder by all the cover available.
Also, a skill of 10 or a skill of 50 means nothing. 50 requires more time and luck, hoping you get good team mates. Yes, your own personal skill does in fact come in to play, but as I type this, I just finished losing 5 games of Reach, each game I'm getting a K/D of over 10, and getting stuck with people getting -5 or more.
This also happened in Halo 3, and CoD isn't immune either, the rank in Halo 3 doesn't reflect personal skill 100%, rather how lucky you are with getting good teammates/bad opponents, with a small contribution of your skill.

If you are having trouble with the DMR, don't spam like most BR lovers are, taking time in shooting IS skill, I'm happy blooming has been added, makes Halo less spray n pray, and more rewarding for accuracy like CoD.

I also can't stand power weapons, however it is a part of Halo, although a bad part at that, and even though it will never happen, I would love to see a game mode that is exactly the same as your normal slayer types, but with none of these weapons. Or even better, a more balance gameplay. How is it fair that 1 hit from a Shottie, or 1 rocket in a 20 foot radius can kill you, yet it takes 5 Headshots from a DMR?

It's just one of those things....


Nothing wrong with power weapons when they have limited ammo. The shotty needs to be removed entirely. It is way too deadly when combined with Sprint.

The over powered nades the severe LACK of team work and the lackluster crap maps has me coming back to Halo 3. I jumped on a different account and played some Halo 3 and it felt like putting on a very comfortable pair of shoes instead of like Reach where you have to wear band aids on your heels until they are broken in....

[Edited on 10.05.2010 6:28 AM PDT]

  • 10.05.2010 6:27 AM PDT

sounds like u just, suck

  • 10.05.2010 7:22 AM PDT

Htf AS one

I'm a 45 (Brigadier General) and I beat Generals here and there so Colonels & brigadier are not to be undersestimated... A legit general is an exceptional player, but a +/-40 is a great players too...

  • 10.05.2010 10:00 AM PDT

:3 I will die. :[


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if you're good at Halo you would know that rank doesn't mean anything in Halo 3.


lolno.

if you don't have a 50 in H3, you suck.


So are you going to call boosters "decent"?Lmao.Another fail by a 50.

  • 10.05.2010 6:31 PM PDT

i dont see how anyone can say that the DMR takes skill. you die to a kid in reach because he spams then you go back to H3 and see that you just lost to a kid that is a freaking level 26 staff captian. Reach = spamming spamming spamming... and more spamming

  • 10.05.2010 9:19 PM PDT
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you cannot compare Halo 3 to Reach, Reach is not a game, its a disc in a plastic green case called pure fail.

Got it? good.

Posted by: yo im on xbox
Its amazing how fed up you can get with a single shot gun, I have to keep going back to halo 3 due to bordem and lack of time spent on the disgusting DMR


The DMR is fine. If you can adapt its super easy to use and rack up kills.

  • 10.06.2010 7:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: Screamo

Posted by: xImpulse Sniper
if you're good at Halo you would know that rank doesn't mean anything in Halo 3.


lolno.

if you don't have a 50 in H3, you suck.
lol it's your childish thought process that makes people buy and boost accounts. "hey, if I get 50 that means I'm automatically good!"

If you don't compete in tournaments and place high, you suck at Halo.

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Posted by: Screamo

Posted by: xImpulse Sniper
if you're good at Halo you would know that rank doesn't mean anything in Halo 3.


lolno.

if you don't have a 50 in H3, you suck.
lol it's your childish thought process that makes people buy and boost accounts. "hey, if I get 50 that means I'm automatically good!"

If you don't compete in tournaments and place high, you suck at Halo.


So only around 800 people are good at halo? I dont wanna buy that one either

  • 10.06.2010 9:35 AM PDT
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Yeah that seems about right. 800 people are actually good while 50,000 generals think they're good from beating people over xbox live.

  • 10.06.2010 9:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: xM4D
Yeah that seems about right. 800 people are actually good while 50,000 generals think they're good from beating people over xbox live.


Nah I dont agree with that. Some people dont care enough to go to an event just to prove how good they are, not saying that every general is good, but I know of a couple of exceptional players who just have no interest in going to an event.

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Posted by: Screamo

Posted by: xImpulse Sniper
if you're good at Halo you would know that rank doesn't mean anything in Halo 3.


lolno.

if you don't have a 50 in H3, you suck.

This

  • 10.06.2010 10:54 PM PDT

i dont see how anyone can say that the DMR takes skill. you die to a kid in reach because he spams then you go back to H3 and see that you just lost to a kid that is a freaking level 26 staff captian. Reach = spamming spamming spamming... and more spamming

i agree more or less. the problem i have is being stuck with a 50 in halo 3 while my skill in reach is not appropriate - an example: in halo 3 noobies go with ar shooting and running at you (i step backwards and what not and try to kill him without dying instead of getting a double k.o. via beat down) - in reach they sprint at me where there is no time to take their shields down (except PP maybe) and then melee them after they meleed me to get the kill and live (situation is: we both die with two punches, actually i die because i still shoot for the shields ^^). back to the topic: same with dmr - if people can't aim i can let the reticule reset and shoot smoothly; but: if they can aim or get lucky they spam their dmr and still get the headshot on me (WTF!).

the question how to shoot with the dmr:
long range - reticule reset
mid range - two shots - reset - two shots - reset - headshot(?)
close range - three shots (four) - reset - two shots (headshot(?))
very close range - spam what you can get out of it while getting beaten down

i don't like to go into rumble pit and here the spamming sound in EVERY gunfight .. its like people screaming: "i'm a noob, i'm a noob .. down, general, down!!"

  • 11.05.2010 2:47 AM PDT

What the blargh!?

The BR always was a sucky weapon

  • 11.05.2010 2:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Waffles108
It amazes me that people can dislike a game because of a single weapon. I quite enjoy pwning grunts with my DMR though.


me too. But it's more fun + you can get more multikills by using a Battle Rifle. :P

And you actually have the feeling of firing a weapon, and not having a gun like the DMR with a firing effect which sounds like someone throws a rock into an empty well >_>

[Edited on 11.05.2010 7:34 PM PDT]

  • 11.05.2010 7:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: yo im on xbox
DMR is far from fine, When you're good at halo 3 you realise how unskillfull DMR really is, Seeing as ur highest skill is 26 any weapon would be "fine" to you.
Great logic. Go complain on the Reach forums.

  • 11.05.2010 8:42 PM PDT
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The legendary ending for Halo 4 is Masturcheef and Arby making love.

Besides, rank means nothing. Just think about an RPG game, you rank up, but without the stat gains.

  • 11.05.2010 8:44 PM PDT


Posted by: xImpulse Sniper
DMR is fine.

  • 11.05.2010 8:46 PM PDT
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BLARGH!

i find reach very repetetive, it was good at first, but then i went on today and all i came across was armor lock, and then i went on forge and had so many materiels i didn't know what to do, so i resorted to halo 3 and nearly cried at ti's beauty...

  • 11.05.2010 9:08 PM PDT

Playing Halo 2 Vista and Halo 3 until Halo 5 comes out.

My 0.02 K/D KiDs

Never touching ranked alone again on H3 after 2010. :)

H3 > Reach anyways, not because of one weapon only, the game overall is better than Reach.

Posted by: yo im on xbox
DMR is far from fine, When you're good at halo 3 you realise how unskillfull DMR really is, Seeing as ur highest skill is 26 any weapon would be "fine" to you.



lol

  • 11.05.2010 9:31 PM PDT

Games I like:,
Half-Minute Hero
MBU
Portal
Halo 3 is the best Halo ever
Maps I like: Turf, Avalanche, Pylon, Sandbox, Breakpoint and many more.

very sad isnt it...

  • 11.06.2010 2:51 AM PDT

DMR is a poor remake of the extremely powerful BR

  • 11.06.2010 3:03 AM PDT

Games I like:,
Half-Minute Hero
MBU
Portal
Halo 3 is the best Halo ever
Maps I like: Turf, Avalanche, Pylon, Sandbox, Breakpoint and many more.

When I saw the DMR for the first time in the beta, i hated it. In the full version, the DMR has become better. If it didn't have the stupid bloom effect it would probaly beat a BR across a map. Any closer and the BR would beat it. The BR shoots 3 bullets at once rapidly. The BR does more damage. Of course the BR would win. And by BR i am battle rifle, not beam rifle.

  • 11.06.2010 3:12 AM PDT