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Subject: Halo:Reach For PC

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
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50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Chaosenemy
For some reason I feel like replying to this thread. There isn't going to be a Halo Reach for PC, and if somehow it actually is ported, it's just going to be another Halo 2 in terms of quality.

Unfortunately ever since Halo 2, the Blam engine has been completely borked for anything but Xbox/consoles. Sure they could fix some things like getting rid of aim assist (though they won't), but the engine, from the ground up, was written to run at 30 fps. This means animations, movement, physics, everything polls at 30 times per second and was built specifically to be this way. The rendering can run at a different rate to provide more than 30 fps but on the Xbox this would've likely made everything look jittery and glitchy, so they locked the rendering at 30 fps. For the PC, I think what Hired Gun did to fix this was to interpolate each frame against the previous one based on the rendering fps, to smooth the motion. This extra overhead, combined with all the Xbox-specific optimizations being dropped (obviously), slowed down the game considerably on the PC platform. Plus, the interpolation between frames introduced a bit of input latency and I imagine this probably screwed with the mouse movement as well. So the engine itself is inherently sluggish and made for console gamers who don't care.

Now I'm not disputing that Hired Gun did a bad port job - they did, but Microsoft and Bungie are the ones who are to blame. Bungie built the engine with 0 consideration for other platforms, and Hired Gun was rushed by Microsoft and likely told to withhold features/content from the PC version like Gearbox was for Halo 1.

In the end, Halo is built to be a console game from the ground up and Microsoft are greedy -blam!-s. To get a truly decent Halo PC game would require Microsoft to put some real honest-to-God effort into rebuilding the engine specifically for the PC, not hacking together some quick fixes and seeing if the damn thing compiles. We need PC Cpu/Gpu optimizations, reworked game content built with variable fps in mind, and all the simple things that make a PC game a PC game. Microsoft isn't going to put forth the effort for any of this.

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Agreed. Just look at Halo PC. Once you disable 30fps, the animations seem to feel jittery.

Also, MS doesn't care much about PC gaming. Fable III PC isn't out yet, while others rumor it will end up like Alan Wake PC. AoE online isn't out yet either, and nothing has been announced for MS flight yet, and some people are thinking it's going to be a dumbed down FSX.

  • 12.11.2010 7:43 AM PDT

Halo Reach PC über alles!


Posted by: Shock120
Another funny thing is, Halo 1 is being remade for Xbox 360, which is another giant F U to the PC users. :'(

(that is if, it is true...)


*Twitch* FFFFFFFFFF-

Then again, nothing has been confirmed so, it is still a guessing game.

  • 12.11.2010 8:51 AM PDT

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You owe it to yourself to get out and be someone. Get to work!

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Great Copy and Paste

  • 12.13.2010 1:47 PM PDT

Halo Reach PC über alles!

Posted by: AquaBlader
Great Copy and Paste


(Protip: Spartancheese left a LONG time ago.)

  • 12.13.2010 2:30 PM PDT

I would like to see cross system play between PC and Xbox 360 I play on the Xbox but I think that will broaden the games community.

  • 01.02.2011 10:56 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: SNIP3R45000
I would like to see cross system play between PC and Xbox 360 I play on the Xbox but I think that will broaden the games community.

You know, you'd think you'd like that, but if the game were cross platform, you'd find that PC players would come storming onto the scene and mauling every single console gamer out there. Then there would be a hissy-fit outcry by console gamers about how terrible of a decision it was to make the game cross-platform.

  • 01.02.2011 11:06 AM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Yes we would raep them, they would cry aimbot, and Bungie would probably amend the software to give them some type of advantage to shut them up.

  • 01.02.2011 11:34 AM PDT
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before you even start think about halo reach coming out on the pc, you will have to wait for halo 3 on the pc and the reason Microsoft always delays the pc version of halo games is because they want more people buying xboxs for halo games and because they want to get the most amount of money out of the games before they put it on the pc and let people pirate the games

  • 01.02.2011 4:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: millzy64
before you even start think about halo reach coming out on the pc, you will have to wait for halo 3 on the pc and the reason Microsoft always delays the pc version of halo games is because they want more people buying xboxs for halo games and because they want to get the most amount of money out of the games before they put it on the pc and let people pirate the games
You're dumb, and I'm glad to be on Steam. :D

  • 01.02.2011 4:49 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Frnksnbns
Yes we would raep them, they would cry aimbot, and Bungie would probably amend the software to give them some type of advantage to shut them up.


You mean bloom and ablilities like Shadowrun PC or Halo Reach? Oh, wait, n00bs hate that already.

[Edited on 01.02.2011 6:15 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2011 6:15 PM PDT

The Moa is strong with this one.

I don't think you people understand the gravity of your requests. Bungie was working on reach for the xbox for years! Having to start from scratch to create a PC version would not only undoubtingly take twice the time, but a waste of money, due to the fact that a reach version for computers would take a small sun to power it. You might want to get your heads out of your butts and look up the word "budget" in a dictionary.

  • 01.02.2011 9:35 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: RabbidWombat97
due to the fact that a reach version for computers would take a small sun to power it.

Crysis says hi. Now go back to your Underpoweredbox 360, kid. Adults are talking in here.

  • 01.02.2011 10:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: RabbidWombat97
I don't think you people understand the gravity of your requests. Bungie was working on reach for the xbox for years! Having to start from scratch to create a PC version would not only undoubtingly take twice the time, but a waste of money, due to the fact that a reach version for computers would take a small sun to power it. You might want to get your heads out of your butts and look up the word "budget" in a dictionary.
This guy is one of those retarded people who think consoles are more powerful than PCs.

Hey listen dumbass tell me if that crapbox 360 is powerful than this.

Intel core i7 930 - @ 4.2 Ghz
ATI/AMD Radeon 5970 (note this is a Dual gpu)
12 GB RAM
3x 1 TB HDD
Windows 7 x64

I'm definitely sure my PC over powers the crapbox 360, but since you're dumb you'd never know that.

[Edited on 01.03.2011 4:30 AM PST]

  • 01.03.2011 4:29 AM PDT

The Moa is strong with this one.

I never said that the xbox was more powerful than the oc, you'd have to be about 3 years old to think that. PC gaming IS the future, but my point is that it's not like bungie can whip out a PC version of reach. Now that Microsoft is controlling halo, I doubt anything will happen.

I'm not some dumb ass kid who thinks xboxes are better than PCs, I never said that. That might be what you thought was trying to say, but it wasn't. Maybe you idiots should ask people to explain their reasoning before calling someone a dumb ass.

  • 01.03.2011 5:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: RabbidWombat97
I never said that the xbox was more powerful than the oc, you'd have to be about 3 years old to think that. PC gaming IS the future, but my point is that it's not like bungie can whip out a PC version of reach. Now that Microsoft is controlling halo, I doubt anything will happen.

I'm not some dumb ass kid who thinks xboxes are better than PCs, I never said that. That might be what you thought was trying to say, but it wasn't. Maybe you idiots should ask people to explain their reasoning before calling someone a dumb ass.
Have you ever heard of a port?
Halo 1 PC and Custom Edition are in fact great PC ports of Halo 1 Xbox.
Halo 2 Vista is a crappy ass port of Halo 2 Xbox.

It matters who ports it, Gearbox were very good at their job.
HiredGun however, were absolute crap, and the chatbox in Halo 2 Vista is the ultimate flaw of the game, including the game browser. :D

Xbox 360 games are close to PC in nature, it shouldn't be harder for them to port and change their games.

Microsoft sucks when it comes to PC, and Valve are winners. :D
Capcom have been great when making games for Xbox 360, PS3 and PC.

Posted by: RabbidWombat97
due to the fact that a reach version for computers would take a small sun to power it.
This is why you're an idiot.

[Edited on 01.03.2011 6:18 AM PST]

  • 01.03.2011 6:08 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

This required a small sun to power it, and it came out in the same year as Halo freaking 3! Of course, any PC can run it now, but it's still too powerful for the 360. In fact, they had to scale their engine down to get it to run on the 360.

  • 01.03.2011 8:18 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: RabbidWombat97
I'm not some dumb ass kid who thinks xboxes are better than PCs, I never said that. That might be what you thought was trying to say, but it wasn't. Maybe you idiots should ask people to explain their reasoning before calling someone a dumb ass.

There's no real way to explain the reasoning of Reach "taking a small sun to power it" on the PC. It's not some graphical marvel or ultra-complex game.

  • 01.03.2011 9:15 AM PDT

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BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

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Posted by: DusKPosted by: RabbidWombat97
I'm not some dumb ass kid who thinks xboxes are better than PCs, I never said that. That might be what you thought was trying to say, but it wasn't. Maybe you idiots should ask people to explain their reasoning before calling someone a dumb ass.
There's no real way to explain the reasoning of Reach "taking a small sun to power it" on the PC. It's not some graphical marvel or ultra-complex game.
It's only a DX 9 game with DX 11's Tessellation.

  • 01.03.2011 9:51 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.


Posted by: Shock120
Posted by: DusKPosted by: RabbidWombat97
I'm not some dumb ass kid who thinks xboxes are better than PCs, I never said that. That might be what you thought was trying to say, but it wasn't. Maybe you idiots should ask people to explain their reasoning before calling someone a dumb ass.
There's no real way to explain the reasoning of Reach "taking a small sun to power it" on the PC. It's not some graphical marvel or ultra-complex game.
It's only a DX 9 game with DX 11's Tessellation.

I thought it was DX10's tessellation? Ah well, whatev.

  • 01.03.2011 10:49 AM PDT

The Moa is strong with this one.


Posted by: DusK
Posted by: RabbidWombat97
I'm not some dumb ass kid who thinks xboxes are better than PCs, I never said that. That might be what you thought was trying to say, but it wasn't. Maybe you idiots should ask people to explain their reasoning before calling someone a dumb ass.

There's no real way to explain the reasoning of Reach "taking a small sun to power it" on the PC. It's not some graphical marvel or ultra-complex game.

I exaggerated to make a point. Freakin cyrsis was -blam!-, broke my computer! But I know that reach is possible on computer. I was pissed off for some reason when I wrote mr first comment

  • 01.03.2011 1:43 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.


Posted by: RabbidWombat97

Posted by: DusK
Posted by: RabbidWombat97
I'm not some dumb ass kid who thinks xboxes are better than PCs, I never said that. That might be what you thought was trying to say, but it wasn't. Maybe you idiots should ask people to explain their reasoning before calling someone a dumb ass.

There's no real way to explain the reasoning of Reach "taking a small sun to power it" on the PC. It's not some graphical marvel or ultra-complex game.

I exaggerated to make a point. Freakin cyrsis was -blam!-, broke my computer! But I know that reach is possible on computer. I was pissed off for some reason when I wrote mr first comment

It's more than just possible. Any mid-range gaming PC would be able to run Reach better than a 360. It really wouldn't take much.

  • 01.03.2011 1:49 PM PDT

The Moa is strong with this one.

Well yeah! The xbox's power basically is equal to(and sounds like) a vacuum. It's nothing like PCs

  • 01.03.2011 2:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: DusK
I thought it was DX10's tessellation? Ah well, whatev.
Pushed into DX 11, because Nvidia forced Microsoft to, since they weren't going to support all DX 10 features.

  • 01.03.2011 2:09 PM PDT

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Didn't you guys watch the Bungie Podcast? They said that a new Halo for the PC would be a- wait, is that a sni

  • 01.03.2011 11:08 PM PDT

Halo Reach is terrible. You're not missing out.

  • 01.04.2011 2:40 PM PDT