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Subject: Unexplainable errors in the Halo canon. (Spoilers)

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Posted by: grey101
no, just no


I take it you hit the intellectual wall? When you no longer have the capacity to flesh out your thoughts and engage in discourse, you resort to, "no you're wrong"? Oh okay. When you're done with puberty, we can finish this up, and you can explain to me why its a good thing for anybody telling a story (either through books, games, movies) must explain every action in the universe and leave absolutely no ambiguity for the audience.

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Posted by: grey101
no, just no


I take it you hit the intellectual wall? When you no longer have the capacity to flesh out your thoughts and engage in discourse, you resort to, "no you're wrong"? Oh okay. When you're done with puberty, we can finish this up, and you can explain to me why its a good thing for anybody telling a story (either through books, games, movies) must explain every action in the universe and leave absolutely no ambiguity for the audience.


*Sigh* why is it over the internet people try to come across as "big shot intellectuals"? You didn't hit some "wall" mister ego.


At the end of "the mona lisa" and elite and ODST fight for an escape pod with seconds left before the ship explodes; little stuff like that can be up for peoples own thoughts on what happened.


But people shouldn't have to make things work in the case of the overall story and if you thing so you clearly don't know the halo hierarchy of canon or how important reach was.

1The fact the covenant were in the system of humanity's most important planet for several weeks undetected is a flaw.

The fact that corvettes are attacking the entire planet despite it only being "a local attack" is a flaw.

The fact cortana needed some random forerunner artifact to decode the sigma crystal is a flaw because she did that moments after getting it in the book.

The fact halsey was expecting something important at that location is a flaw along with the fact the PoA knew they were going there. In the book cortana picked that location on a whim, it was not pre-determined.



Reach is an issue because nearly the entire game conflicts with what was established in the book, not to mention the book was re-published yet it was not changed to fit the games plot.


If fans can "use their imagination" to decide what is and what isn't then the universe has no structure and you are pretty much saying it is an RPG.

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Posted by: Vallad
Does no one remember that TFoR came out b4 H1?


Your point being?

It doesn't matter when TFoR came, the game was created long before the book, even if it was released second, and is what is the basis for Halo's vast story.


I wouldn't say that due to the fact halo was suppose to be a one time thing.


Now look at TFoR and look at CE, which one alone gave more insight the the halo universe? i am going to have to say TFoR, so if we were only given those two things the depth would come from the book not the game.

The "only" thing the game introduced were forerunners and flood, the book pretty much set up the entire universent


Regardless of which went more in depth or had the more elaborate story, CE is still the basis and foundation of Halo's story as are the rest of the games. Without the games the books would not even exist. Would say the same thing about Star Wars? The movies don't delve in too deeply to the society of the Star Wars universe or really anything similar, yet they are the basis of the Star Wars Saga as they are what set the whole story up, the same with CE and the other Halo games.

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Posted by: grey101
Sigh* why is it over the internet people try to come across as "big shot intellectuals"? You didn't hit some "wall" mister ego.


At the end of "the mona lisa" and elite and ODST fight for an escape pod with seconds left before the ship explodes; little stuff like that can be up for peoples own thoughts on what happened.


But people shouldn't have to make things work in the case of the overall story and if you thing so you clearly don't know the halo hierarchy of canon or how important reach was.

1The fact the covenant were in the system of humanity's most important planet for several weeks undetected is a flaw.

The fact that corvettes are attacking the entire planet despite it only being "a local attack" is a flaw.

The fact cortana needed some random forerunner artifact to decode the sigma crystal is a flaw because she did that moments after getting it in the book.

The fact halsey was expecting something important at that location is a flaw along with the fact the PoA knew they were going there. In the book cortana picked that location on a whim, it was not pre-determined.



Reach is an issue because nearly the entire game conflicts with what was established in the book, not to mention the book was re-published yet it was not changed to fit the games plot.


If fans can "use their imagination" to decide what is and what isn't then the universe has no structure and you are pretty much saying it is an RPG.



There you go. A little poking and prodding and I get some substance out of you. And no, I'm not trying to be some big shot internet intellectual. Just because the folks you run around your junior high or high school with can't form a thought beyond, "Justin Bieber sucks," doesn't mean that people aren't capable of have intellectual processes that they're able to put to words.

You fall into the "absence of evidence" logical flaw. Just because something isn't explicitly confirmed or denied in another source, doesn't mean it can't have happened in a fictional universe. Quit taking things so literally. Expand your thinking beyond the very localized approach you're handed in Halo: Reach and the corresponding novels. The universe itself doesn't take place in a vacuum. It is a complex set of constantly fluid variables that a proper storyteller (in this case, Bungie) won't waste time or effort in explaining.

You're not using your own thoughts or intuition to change the story. You're using it to come to conclusions about what fills in the blanks. It lets the audience engage the story, form their own conclusions, and have discussion based on what they feel is in those blanks. That's what allows for forums and mediums such as this place.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

and if bungie won't take the time to explain something they clearly aren't interested in it, that doesn't apply to everything but still.


Halo Reach- The random forerunner artifact is destroyed before we have any clue what it was

Halo 3- The ark was destroyed before we could really "get into it". and this will piss you off more once you read cryptum and see how important the ark was.


Knock it off with the "your a little kid act", age does not equal intelligence it equals wisdom. And majority of the regulars of the universe forum are in college myself included so cut the crap and just talk.

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Posted by: grey101
and if bungie won't take the time to explain something they clearly aren't interested in it, that doesn't apply to everything but still.


Halo Reach- The random forerunner artifact is destroyed before we have any clue what it was

Halo 3- The ark was destroyed before we could really "get into it". and this will piss you off more once you read cryptum and see how important the ark was.


Knock it off with the "your a little kid act", age does not equal intelligence it equals wisdom. And majority of the regulars of the universe forum are in college myself included so cut the crap and just talk.


Like you said, I don't care who you are or what your age is. Communicate like a grown up if you want your points taking seriously. And don't concern yourself with the assumptions I'm making about the institution you attend.

Why do you need to be spoon fed every detail about the artifact found at Reach? Maybe its being saved for latter revelation. Maybe Bungie didn't deem it a pertinent use of their time to flesh it out. I could give a thousand reasons why it isn't necessary to break down exactly what that is. Does a little mystery kill you?

And I have read Cryptum, and I'm well aware of the significance and importance of the Ark. Did H3 really need to get farther into the fiction behind the Ark? The books cover it well enough, and the game could only go so far into covering it without getting boring or detracting from the story at hand.

There's far more that goes into the decision making of what is and what is not including in a game's fiction or a book's substance. Its not, "Oh man they totally whiffed on the dates!" If you want a story pandered to the intellectual equivalent of a toddler that needs all points laid out in plain text, stick to the children's game section. If not, fire up some brain cells and put the work in yourself.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: grey101
and if bungie won't take the time to explain something they clearly aren't interested in it, that doesn't apply to everything but still.


Halo Reach- The random forerunner artifact is destroyed before we have any clue what it was

Halo 3- The ark was destroyed before we could really "get into it". and this will piss you off more once you read cryptum and see how important the ark was.


Knock it off with the "your a little kid act", age does not equal intelligence it equals wisdom. And majority of the regulars of the universe forum are in college myself included so cut the crap and just talk.


Like you said, I don't care who you are or what your age is. Communicate like a grown up if you want your points taking seriously. And don't concern yourself with the assumptions I'm making about the institution you attend.

Why do you need to be spoon fed every detail about the artifact found at Reach? Maybe its being saved for latter revelation. Maybe Bungie didn't deem it a pertinent use of their time to flesh it out. I could give a thousand reasons why it isn't necessary to break down exactly what that is. Does a little mystery kill you?

And I have read Cryptum, and I'm well aware of the significance and importance of the Ark. Did H3 really need to get farther into the fiction behind the Ark? The books cover it well enough, and the game could only go so far into covering it without getting boring or detracting from the story at hand.

There's far more that goes into the decision making of what is and what is not including in a game's fiction or a book's substance. Its not, "Oh man they totally whiffed on the dates!" If you want a story pandered to the intellectual equivalent of a toddler that needs all points laid out in plain text, stick to the children's game section. If not, fire up some brain cells and put the work in yourself.



1. because the artifact must have some importance but we don't know do we? and the mystery isn't helping explain some of the contradictions of the story

The fact you keep talking about "mystery's" and the fact "everything doesn't need to be explain" i doubt you have read any of the novels. So Read the novels then you will understand some of the reasons reach "breaks canon".



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Posted by: grey101
1. because the artifact must have some importance but we don't know do we? and the mystery isn't helping explain some of the contradictions of the story

The fact you keep talking about "mystery's" and the fact "everything doesn't need to be explain" i doubt you have read any of the novels. So Read the novels then you will understand some of the reasons reach "breaks canon".


I have read the novels. My point remains. These events don't happen in little vacuums. Just because something isn't covered in The Fall of Reach, doesn't mean it couldn't have happened during Halo: Reach. Absence of evidence buddy. Quit pigeon-holing yourself.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: grey101
1. because the artifact must have some importance but we don't know do we? and the mystery isn't helping explain some of the contradictions of the story

The fact you keep talking about "mystery's" and the fact "everything doesn't need to be explain" i doubt you have read any of the novels. So Read the novels then you will understand some of the reasons reach "breaks canon".


I have read the novels. My point remains. These events don't happen in little vacuums. Just because something isn't covered in The Fall of Reach, doesn't mean it couldn't have happened during Halo: Reach. Absence of evidence buddy. Quit pigeon-holing yourself.


So explain to me why cortana needed a random forerunner relic to decode the sigma crystal when she did that in the book before they got to reach.

Explain why halsey was banking on something highly important to be at that location despite the fact it was never touched upon in the books.


you do understand that the entire theme of halo being found on a whim is completely shattered by the fact the PoA purposely went there? Then you have the fact of how the PoA got there so fast with the lacking human slipspace travel.

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Posted by: privet caboose
Error: Lack of Orbital MAC's.

Proof: Reach had a number of Orbital MAC's that were used in the battle of Reach. They were present on August 30th, so they should have been present during the mission "Long Night of Solace" in Halo: Reach. Had they been present, they Jorge wouldn't have died. Where were they?

Source: Fall of Reach, First Strike, Halo: Reach


Didn't the Orbital MAC guns get destroyed pretty early on in the battle of Reach? This would explain why there is a lack of them.

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Posted by: grey101
So explain to me why cortana needed a random forerunner relic to decode the sigma crystal when she did that in the book before they got to reach.

Explain why halsey was banking on something highly important to be at that location despite the fact it was never touched upon in the books.


you do understand that the entire theme of halo being found on a whim is completely shattered by the fact the PoA purposely went there? Then you have the fact of how the PoA got there so fast with the lacking human slipspace travel.


Maybe there was additional decoding that needed to take place. Maybe the pieces of the crystal needed interpreting based on information found in the artifact below Sword Base.

One of Halsey's researcher colleague's felt he was on to something highly important before he was killed by the Zealot's. She didn't know what he was on to, but she found out for herself over the course of Halo: Reach. Like I've reiterated, just because the book doesn't cover it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Sure, Halo being found on a whim is false if we know Cortana used the crystal translation using the Forerunner artifact. But did Keyes know that? No. Did Chief know that? No. For all they know, they randomly stumbled upon the ring. Cortana didn't need to explain to them where she was going. She, like Halsey, is good at manipulation. It serves her purposes to lead Keyes and PoA to Halo without their knowledge. Doesn't break canon, it adds a layer. Great twist to anyone who doesn't pigeon hole themselves on assumptions they made.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: longhorn10
Posted by: grey101
1. because the artifact must have some importance but we don't know do we? and the mystery isn't helping explain some of the contradictions of the story

The fact you keep talking about "mystery's" and the fact "everything doesn't need to be explain" i doubt you have read any of the novels. So Read the novels then you will understand some of the reasons reach "breaks canon".


I have read the novels. My point remains. These events don't happen in little vacuums. Just because something isn't covered in The Fall of Reach, doesn't mean it couldn't have happened during Halo: Reach. Absence of evidence buddy. Quit pigeon-holing yourself.


So explain to me why cortana needed a random forerunner relic to decode the sigma crystal when she did that in the book before they got to reach.

Explain why halsey was banking on something highly important to be at that location despite the fact it was never touched upon in the books.


you do understand that the entire theme of halo being found on a whim is completely shattered by the fact the PoA purposely went there? Then you have the fact of how the PoA got there so fast with the lacking human slipspace travel.



I don't remember the part with Cortana needing a random forerunner relic to decode the sigma crystal. And the second thing about Halsey I would have to go back and read the books to give you an answer.

But how do you know how long it took the PoA to get the the first Halo, and how far away the first Halo was from Reach to dub it "the PoA got there so fast with the lacking human slipspace travel?" And Cortana is the one who took the PoA to the first Halo without anybody else knowing what she was doing. Making everyone else think it was just a random jump.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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that is what the whole level "the package" was about.


That was in the game not the book, "the package".

Because it was in the books, it took two weeks for the PoA to get to installation 4, and keyes told cortana to make a random jump she didn't do it alone.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: longhorn10
Posted by: grey101
So explain to me why cortana needed a random forerunner relic to decode the sigma crystal when she did that in the book before they got to reach.

Explain why halsey was banking on something highly important to be at that location despite the fact it was never touched upon in the books.


you do understand that the entire theme of halo being found on a whim is completely shattered by the fact the PoA purposely went there? Then you have the fact of how the PoA got there so fast with the lacking human slipspace travel.


made.


maybe I am green, maybe the hulk is a troll, maybe maybe maybe.

Maybe doesn't get anybody anywhere, "maybe" halo is really a unicorn, "maybe" master chief is a girl.

There was nothing that helped cortana get the location, she cracked that easy but she couldn't understand the language.

That doesn't make sense nor does it explain the fact she was expecting the location to have something that could change the war.

Um cortana clearly stated she used the location for the crystal as a jump after they got to halo, and cortana does need to tell keyes where they are going since he outranks her.

you are pretty much making up events off the premise of "maybe", nothing you stated is relevant nor did it happen that way; you really need to re-read the books and stop using circular logic to "support yourself".


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Posted by: grey101
and cortana does need to tell keyes where they are going since he outranks her.


Seriously? Technically Cortana might have to tell Keyes, but nothing is forcing her to tell him, and on many different occasions she breaks protocol. It's what makes Cortana Cortana.

You are seriously lacking in knowledge of the Halo Universe if you think Cortana would have told Keyes about the jump.

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Posted by: grey101
maybe I am green, maybe the hulk is a troll, maybe maybe maybe.


Yes, maybe those are true. But we definitely know that the Hulk is green, and you're a troll :P

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another thing we know is that all the events have not, and probably will not, ever happen, and everything mentioned is just fiction.


So cool it, kiddies.

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Posted by: grey101
maybe I am green, maybe the hulk is a troll, maybe maybe maybe.

Maybe doesn't get anybody anywhere, "maybe" halo is really a unicorn, "maybe" master chief is a girl.

There was nothing that helped cortana get the location, she cracked that easy but she couldn't understand the language.

That doesn't make sense nor does it explain the fact she was expecting the location to have something that could change the war.

Um cortana clearly stated she used the location for the crystal as a jump after they got to halo, and cortana does need to tell keyes where they are going since he outranks her.

you are pretty much making up events off the premise of "maybe", nothing you stated is relevant nor did it happen that way; you really need to re-read the books and stop using circular logic to "support yourself".


I'd rather use maybe to state possibilities than to look childish and assume that because something is not stated, then it never happened. You really are showing how close minded you are, and your very limited capacity for thought outside the small and understandable world you have been spoon fed. Clearly I'm going to get nowhere with you, spinning my wheels assuming you're capable of accepting that action can take place outside of your understanding.

If you are thinking Cortana divulges information to anyone on the premise of rank, than I think you're the one that needs to brush up on your fiction. Cortana runs the show, just like Halsey. She deals in secrecy and has little regard for rank or the strutcture demanded of military actions. Your limiting the dynamic nature of Cortana's character, which makes me believe you lack any ability to read between the lines.

Of course Cortana thinks Halo could change the course of the war. All of the Forerunner allusion to the rings is about how powerful they are.

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Posted by: grey101
and cortana does need to tell keyes where they are going since he outranks her.


Seriously? Technically Cortana might have to tell Keyes, but nothing is forcing her to tell him, and on many different occasions she breaks protocol. It's what makes Cortana Cortana.

You are seriously lacking in knowledge of the Halo Universe if you think Cortana would have told Keyes about the jump.


Sarg gets it.

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Grey's brain are like this [~~~~].

  • 08.03.2011 10:12 AM PDT

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another thing we know is that all the events have not, and probably will not, ever happen, and everything mentioned is just fiction.


So cool it, kiddies.


Wait, what?! It is fiction? I never knew that! Why do I care?! My goodness, without your valuable insight, I don't know what I would have done with my life. Thank you so much.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Sarg GoldIeaf

Posted by: grey101
and cortana does need to tell keyes where they are going since he outranks her.


Seriously? Technically Cortana might have to tell Keyes, but nothing is forcing her to tell him, and on many different occasions she breaks protocol. It's what makes Cortana Cortana.

You are seriously lacking in knowledge of the Halo Universe if you think Cortana would have told Keyes about the jump.


Other than the fact it is keyes ship and he outranks cortana along with the fact she did tell him

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Sarg GoldIeaf

Posted by: grey101
and cortana does need to tell keyes where they are going since he outranks her.


Seriously? Technically Cortana might have to tell Keyes, but nothing is forcing her to tell him, and on many different occasions she breaks protocol. It's what makes Cortana Cortana.

You are seriously lacking in knowledge of the Halo Universe if you think Cortana would have told Keyes about the jump.


Other than the fact it is keyes ship and he outranks cortana along with the fact she did tell him


So what if it's Keyes ship and he outranks her?

It's like saying, "I have kids and they are perfectly good kids who NEVER EVER do anything wrong because it's my house and I'm the parent!"

And if you say that's the way it works then Longhorn's estimate of your brain size was to big.

Also, when did she tell Keyes exactly?

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Posted by: grey101
and cortana does need to tell keyes where they are going since he outranks her.
[/quote]

Seriously? Technically Cortana might have to tell Keyes, but nothing is forcing her to tell him, and on many different occasions she breaks protocol. It's what makes Cortana Cortana.

You are seriously lacking in knowledge of the Halo Universe if you think Cortana would have told Keyes about the jump.[/quote]

Other than the fact it is keyes ship and he outranks cortana along with the fact she did tell him


So what if it's Keyes ship and he outranks her?

It's like saying, "I have kids and they are perfectly good kids who NEVER EVER do anything wrong because it's my house and I'm the parent!"

And if it say that's the way it works then Longhorns estimate of your brain size was to big.


that is the entire point. In the story "mona lisa" you have a clear example on what it would have been if keyes didn't out rank cortana.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Sarg GoldIeaf

Posted by: grey101
and cortana does need to tell keyes where they are going since he outranks her.
[/quote]

Seriously? Technically Cortana might have to tell Keyes, but nothing is forcing her to tell him, and on many different occasions she breaks protocol. It's what makes Cortana Cortana.

You are seriously lacking in knowledge of the Halo Universe if you think Cortana would have told Keyes about the jump.[/quote]

Other than the fact it is keyes ship and he outranks cortana along with the fact she did tell him


So what if it's Keyes ship and he outranks her?

It's like saying, "I have kids and they are perfectly good kids who NEVER EVER do anything wrong because it's my house and I'm the parent!"

And if it say that's the way it works then Longhorns estimate of your brain size was to big.


that is the entire point. In the story "mona lisa" you have a clear example on what it would have been if keyes didn't out rank cortana.


How much of the Halo Canon do you really know? I've seen you bring up the "mona lisa" several different times, but I haven't seen a single other source from you.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Sarg GoldIeaf

Posted by: grey101
and cortana does need to tell keyes where they are going since he outranks her.
[/quote]

Seriously? Technically Cortana might have to tell Keyes, but nothing is forcing her to tell him, and on many different occasions she breaks protocol. It's what makes Cortana Cortana.

You are seriously lacking in knowledge of the Halo Universe if you think Cortana would have told Keyes about the jump.[/quote]

Other than the fact it is keyes ship and he outranks cortana along with the fact she did tell him[/quote]

So what if it's Keyes ship and he outranks her?

It's like saying, "I have kids and they are perfectly good kids who NEVER EVER do anything wrong because it's my house and I'm the parent!"

And if it say that's the way it works then Longhorns estimate of your brain size was to big.[/quote]

that is the entire point. In the story "mona lisa" you have a clear example on what it would have been if keyes didn't out rank cortana.


How much of the Halo Canon do you really know? I've seen you bring up the "mona lisa" several different times, but I haven't seen a single other source from you.


Because that is the only example for that, how much do you know? because i have never seen you or longhorn until the forums got cleaned up.


Glorious how the new people come here and ask the older people "how much canon do you know"? glorious.

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