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Subject: Unexplainable errors in the Halo canon. (Spoilers)
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Posted by: Chubrock3056

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you can't make a game based on a 2 hour battle.


Bungie could have easily made a story following the events shortly before, during, and after the battle. We all knew Reach was not completely glassed, and there was plenty of land left after the space battle.

Hell, I would have even gone for something similar to the Earth invasion.

A preliminary Covenant strike force, lets say 15 ships, breaks through Reach's defensive barriers and deploys ground troops on the evening of the 29th.

Noble carries out various missions defending assets through the night, and the distress signal is sent out. Everyone knows it takes a couple of days for UNSC ships to travel through slipspace, so having the strike force arrive on the 29th would give the UNSC very little time to prepare for the main invasion fleet on the 30th.



you most certainly can, but you'd have a hard time focusing on a single character.

There are acceptable retcons that could be made to stretch the time table as well.

  • 09.26.2010 9:52 AM PDT

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I noticed a few of the errors mentioned the first time I finished the campaign. The first one I noticed was the invasion one. Someone defiantly screwed that one up but I tried not to let it bother me.

I also noticed the MAC cannons as well. The way FoR described it, the entire orbital command was littered with MAC cannons, and so was the planet. Yet we only saw two MAC cannons the whole time. Once on that ship and once at the end. We didn't see any in the space mission. And like you said. If the first invasion wasn't a full force, then a MAC cannon defiantly should of been able to take out a Corvette.

Seeing the PoA on the Reach upset me more then anything. In the FoR, it would make no sense for the PoA to be on the Reach. Also, it doesn't make sense that Cortana was on Reach since (from what I can remember) she was on the PoA the whole time.

  • 09.26.2010 10:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Orphius_Rex
How would the "Cloaking" towers work (I believe they are just big Jammers with shields) They emit a Dome shaped projection, which is nowhere near big enough to hide 3.33 miles of Super Carrier, let alone one Stealth Cruiser. I think that they are just teleporters, designed to speed up the deployment of ground troops. (Most of this has already been said, I know) And this is unlikely, but the towers could have been dropped from orbit, it wouldn't be too hard to slow them down with anti gravity tech.

Oh, and I would like to point out that the Covenant do have innovative capabilities: Truth's plan in "The Cole Protocol" to use Kig-Yar to sell the Rubble insurrectionists Covenant weapons with tracking devices to find the location of Earth. That is a masterpiece of a plan. It would have worked too if Keyes, Regret, Delgado, and Gray Team hadn't have shown up.
Truth was a very smart individual and very good at foresight.

Saying that the Covenant is innovative because one individual had a good plan is like saying every human is remarkably intelligent because some scientists have built amazing things, like the nuclear reactor, nuclear bomb and space flight.

The minority =/= the majority, and vice-versa.

  • 09.26.2010 10:15 AM PDT

Error 1:
Most Spartans didn't arrive till the end of the battle.
Error 1 null.

Error 2:
Many Spartan 3's where "under the table" and didn't stay with the companies, read the prerelease material.
Error 2 null.

Error 3:
It was a war and a huge planet, and not all Humans love the UNSC so much that they would do anything for them, also the last we heard of data wiping was during ONI Sword Base. The rest of the game was just trying to keep Reach a live and evacuate civilians, not to mention up until Noble blew up the Corvette the UNSC thought they could keep it under wraps.

Error 4:
There was no set age for Spartan 3's to begin at, also look to above answer.
Error 4 null.

Error 5:
Macs where either disabled or there where none in the area. Reach only had like 20 Macs.
Error 5 null.

Error 6:
There was a window of time when the PoA need to be refitted. Guess what, this was the window.
Error 6 Null.

Yeah... go eat a cookie little boy.

  • 09.26.2010 11:47 AM PDT


Posted by: Switchfoot4
I noticed a few of the errors mentioned the first time I finished the campaign. The first one I noticed was the invasion one. Someone defiantly screwed that one up but I tried not to let it bother me.

I also noticed the MAC cannons as well. The way FoR described it, the entire orbital command was littered with MAC cannons, and so was the planet. Yet we only saw two MAC cannons the whole time. Once on that ship and once at the end. We didn't see any in the space mission. And like you said. If the first invasion wasn't a full force, then a MAC cannon defiantly should of been able to take out a Corvette.

Seeing the PoA on the Reach upset me more then anything. In the FoR, it would make no sense for the PoA to be on the Reach. Also, it doesn't make sense that Cortana was on Reach since (from what I can remember) she was on the PoA the whole time.

Read Halsey's journal, Cortana was split in two.

  • 09.26.2010 11:48 AM PDT

I have read through the entire thread now and I still haven't seen a plausible explanation to the Supercarrier's undetected presence on Reach (in orbit). This is still the most glaring unrealistic element of Reach's plot.

This and the awkward decision to make the Fall of Reach a five-week affair, when five days would not only make more sense plot-wise, it would also make things much more tense and epic. No Halo game lasts as long as Reach does, when in fact - it could have been one of the shortest.

I love Bungie and I loved most of Reach's campaign, gameplay-wise, and even if the Fall of Reach did not exist, there are still too many things that don't make LOGICAL sense.

  • 09.26.2010 12:15 PM PDT
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assuming your adressing the errors pointed out by private caboose...
Posted by: ArchedNature
Error 1:
Most Spartans didn't arrive till the end of the battle.
Error 1 null.
Error: Reach was invaded on July 24th.

Proof: All Halo media has always stated Reach fell in one day, and that day was August 30th.

at no point was the issue about Red team going groundside brought up in this statement; nor was thier impact on the battle discussed at any point in this thread. you are showcasing poor reading comprehension and very little knowledge about what is being discussed. your point is invalid

Error 2:
Many Spartan 3's where "under the table" and didn't stay with the companies, read the prerelease material.
Error 2 null.
once again, you have demonstrated your inablity to read. The "A" in the spartan designation denotes Alpha Company- which we have accounted for. Bungie has created a retcon. your argument has been rendered invalid once again.

Error 3:
It was a war and a huge planet, and not all Humans love the UNSC so much that they would do anything for them, also the last we heard of data wiping was during ONI Sword Base. The rest of the game was just trying to keep Reach a live and evacuate civilians, not to mention up until Noble blew up the Corvette the UNSC thought they could keep it under wraps.
-what does civilian support for The UNSC have to do with Military Personel following proper procedure? Every person with access to the internet or television (equivalents at the time) has been drowned in propaganda explaining the covenant threat. Everyone in Uniform understands that failure to comply with orders is the highest of treason, punishable with death; and could lead to the extinction of the human race.
-here you showcase no knowledge of the books, as you are unfamiliar with the Cole Protocol.
-The rest of the game has absolutely NOTHING to do with the error in question.


Error 4:
There was no set age for Spartan 3's to begin at, also look to above answer.
Error 4 null.
provide a source for your answer. the age limit was removed in LATER stages as the augmentation process was refined.

Error 5:
Macs where either disabled or there where none in the area. Reach only had like 20 Macs.
Error 5 null.
You are using handwavium to dismiss this without providing any logical argument or reasoning. your understanding of all that takes place around reach is woefully inadequate for you to be talking down to us.

Error 6:
There was a window of time when the PoA need to be refitted. Guess what, this was the window.
Error 6 Null.
it has been stated in TFoR that the PoA was refitted well before the battle of Reach took place. You are wrong once again; and once again you provide a baseless argument to support your claims.

Yeah... go eat a cookie little boy.


yea... go play outside and do something productive. you're attitude is counter productive to what we are trying to achieve here; you obviously have nothing to contribute.

  • 09.26.2010 12:22 PM PDT

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BANKS: Good grief yes, to both! What's not to like? ...Well, unless you're actually a fascist or a power junkie or sincerely believe that money rather than happiness is what really matters in life. And even people with those bizarre beliefs are catered for in the Culture, albeit in extreme-immersion VR environments.

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Posted by: Orphius_Rex
How would the "Cloaking" towers work (I believe they are just big Jammers with shields) They emit a Dome shaped projection, which is nowhere near big enough to hide 3.33 miles of Super Carrier, let alone one Stealth Cruiser. I think that they are just teleporters, designed to speed up the deployment of ground troops. (Most of this has already been said, I know) And this is unlikely, but the towers could have been dropped from orbit, it wouldn't be too hard to slow them down with anti gravity tech.

Oh, and I would like to point out that some beings in the Covenant do have innovative capabilities: Truth's plan in "The Cole Protocol" to use Kig-Yar to sell the Rubble insurrectionists Covenant weapons with tracking devices to find the location of Earth. That is a masterpiece of a plan. It would have worked too if Keyes, Regret, Delgado, and Gray Team hadn't have shown up.
Truth was a very smart individual and very good at foresight.

Saying that the Covenant is innovative because one individual had a good plan is like saying every human is remarkably intelligent because some scientists have built amazing things, like the nuclear reactor, nuclear bomb and space flight.

The minority =/= the majority, and vice-versa.


I fixed it, that was a stupid oversight on my part, I love the Halo storyline. I feel like I've been schooled. (I have, to be honest) But I have read all of this thread, and agree with most, if not all of the points made. And I haven't read Contact Harvest or First Strike, but in the books I have read, I remember that there isn't much of a show when a ship exits Slipspace. There's only a fireworks show if the ship is carrying fissile material. I.E Nukes. they emit Cherenkov Radiation (Though this has already been stated.) The Covenant don't use fissile material do they?

Also, the Nuclear Bomb, not really amazing. Good piece of engineering, prett cloud, shame it does what it does though.

  • 09.26.2010 12:40 PM PDT

The Nuclear Bomb might have saved the world from a very, very destructive conventional war, occuring not long after WW2. It's not all bad, dude.

  • 09.26.2010 12:43 PM PDT

GROSSMAN: Do you think of the Culture as a utopia? Would you live in it, if you could?

BANKS: Good grief yes, to both! What's not to like? ...Well, unless you're actually a fascist or a power junkie or sincerely believe that money rather than happiness is what really matters in life. And even people with those bizarre beliefs are catered for in the Culture, albeit in extreme-immersion VR environments.

KOTOR

Posted by: Sunnycool77
The Nuclear Bomb might have saved the world from a very, very destructive conventional war, occuring not long after WW2. It's not all bad, dude.


I agree with you, but it did spawn the cold war, which had most of the world on the toilet.

On Topic. Supercarriers, we know they can jump from inside the atmosphere of a planet. Can they jump to it? I doubt it. Also, in GoO, the part where the S-IIIs take out a Covenant refuelling station, there are ships parked in tight formation, and the eyes in the sky assume they are part of the facility. I'm not saying that this is what happened with the Supercarrier, but satellites can evidently make bad calls. (Though ut was a Black Widow com probe iirc, not a planetary relay.)

  • 09.26.2010 12:51 PM PDT
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I'd like to point out a mistake made between the Journal and Game.


In Halsey's Journal, the last few entries do not correspond to the game at all. August 29th is the date that the remnants of Noble Team arrive to retrieve the Package (Cortana) from Halsey in her lab. (Source:: The Package, 9th level, Halo Reach). By the time August 29th came around, the Covenant already had begun it's invasion (For about 15 days), and had gained control of Sword Base, forcing Halsey to remain in her lab underneath the Base.

However, the Journal goes against this, making it seem like Halsey could roam around like nothing happened. She meets with all the remaining Spartan II's (Save Jorge who she does not know is dead) on August 27th. Now, if they managed to get through Sword, thats fine.

August 29th is the biggest farce. The day that Noble Team supposidly reached Halsey with Sword Base completly under Covenant control is the same day that John had surgery and Mark V tests? That's a bloody lie.

In the Journal, Noble Team does not reach Halsey until August 30th.


  • 09.26.2010 2:16 PM PDT

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Good to see someone's making a log of canonical errors... I was pretty disappointed to find the PoA still on Reach at the end. Also, I'm pretty sure Cortana was already on the PoA beforehand.

  • 09.26.2010 2:48 PM PDT
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I just bought the new Fall of Reach. I am going to Read it, then read the Journal from Reach limited edition.

  • 09.26.2010 3:19 PM PDT

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Error: Alpha Company was wiped out completely during Operation: PROMETHEUS in 2537. Carter, Emile, and Jun should not be alive.

Proof: Halo: Ghosts of Onyx goes into quite a bit of detail on Operation: PROMETHEUS. Spartan-III Alpha Company (comprised of 300 Spartans) were sent to K7-49 on a mission to destroy plasma reactors the Covenant were using to liquefy metallurgical components.

The operation was a success, but it is explicitly stated that it cost the lives of every Spartan-III on the asteroid because they got cut off from their Calypso-class Exfiltration crafts and completely lost their unit cohesion.

Halo Reach chooses to ignore this. Carter (A-259), Emile (A-239), and Jun (A-266) are a part of Noble Team when they should have been dead years ago; Bungie have given us no explanation on how they escaped at all.

Sources:
- Ghosts of Onyx, page 83-87.
- Halo Reach



Error: ONI's actions as well as the Cole Protocol.

According to the Cole Protocol, if any Covenant Forces are detected, then all NAV bases and ships should purge their computers of information to protect Earth and the inner colonies.

Proof:If Covenant are detected on Reach on July 23rd, how is it that a month later, there are still computers with information to Earth still active? If ONI hadn't taken more than a month, than Blue team wouldn't have been deployed to the Circumference, and James wouldn't have died, and Linda wouldn't have been in a coma. Infact, they would have been on Reach with Red team.

Sources:

Pg 289 of The Fall of Reach gives information on the purging of Info not complete.
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/United_Nations_Space_Command_Emerg ency_Priority_Order_098831A-1



Error: Carter, Emile, and Jun's age.
Carter is born in 2520. He was 11 years old when Alpha Company began their training. This puts him 5 years above the previously stated age, and it makes no sense at all. Why would they have an 11 year old on the same training regime as a 4 year old? It's too large of a difference, and it's an error that can be avoiding by simply changing his birthdate. This same thing goes for Emile and Jun, who are older than 6 years old at Alpha training.

Proof: Page 69(I'm doing this by memory, I may be wrong.) of Ghosts of Oynx states that all of Alpha Company was comprised of 4, 5, and 6 year old children that he was going to have to forge into the best warriors humanity has ever seen.

Source: Ghosts of Oynx, page 69.



Error: Pillar of Autumn on Reach.

Proof During the final level of Halo: Reach, the Pillar of Autumn is on the planet, and isn't in space, preparing for the Prophet mission. This COMPLETELY destroys much of Halo's canon. If the ship wasn't in space, than the Spartans of Red Team would have never jumped to the planet, meaning that the 4 spartans who died, would have still been alive. Which could have hanged the outcome of the battle. PLUS, the space op to destroy the Circumference's NAV data wouldn't have happened. So Chief, James, and Linda had no reason to NOT be part of Red team. So the chief wouldn't have been on the Autumn, so Halo: CE wouldn't have happened.

Why schedule a mission to capture a prophet, when there's a full scale invasion of Humanities second most important planet?

Sources: Halo: Reach, Fall of Reach



All of these, I can explain.

Error: Alpha Company was wiped out completely during Operation: PROMETHEUS in 2537. Carter, Emile, and Jun should not be alive.


Solution: Jun, Emile, and Carter were all pulled out before Operation: PROMETHEUS, just like Kat and N6 were pulled out of Beta right before Operation: TORPEDO. Every single Spartan of PROMETHEUS didn't make it, although a few were pulled out. For the age of the three Noble Alphas, it was confirmed that they were recruited older than the normal parameters, but the book says everybody was 4, 5, and 6.

Error: ONI's actions as well as the Cole Protocol

Solution: ONI probably had not got time to purge all of the databases relating to the Cole Protocol once there was Covenant action, and had to fight their ways back to their databases.

Error: Pillar of Autumn on Reach

Solution: The PoA was up in space when the missions for the Spartan II's were commenced, and Red was sent down to do ground missions. Blue Team purged the NAV's on the Circumference, and came back into the Autumn. The PoA found out that it had to go back to the surface for Repairs, etc. and to possibly pick up Red Team. Red Team couldn't make it to Aezod, so instead of Cortana's fragment being flown up to the PoA, the Remainder of Noble Team transported it to the PoA. In an Easter Egg in the Reach level, Pillar of Autumn, you can see the MC or Linda in Cryo on the Pillar of Autumn, so either my point is right, or a much bigger piece of Canon is broken.

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  • 09.26.2010 3:45 PM PDT

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tenn' Ambar-metta!

"He was right. Fred had seen Elites, their weapons depleted of charge, die rather than touch fully loaded UNSC assault rifles at their feet."

- Ghosts of Onyx, page 207.

I wonder if this is a glitch or Bungie did this on purpose?

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=289514 5&player=MastaSin333

I've played Halo: CE I've never seen a covie take a human weapon nor vehicule, Halo 2 or 3 neither, this is the first time in a Halo game that i see Elites taking or using humans weaponary.

[Edited on 09.26.2010 5:34 PM PDT]

  • 09.26.2010 5:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Orphius_Rex
How would the "Cloaking" towers work (I believe they are just big Jammers with shields) They emit a Dome shaped projection, which is nowhere near big enough to hide 3.33 miles of Super Carrier, let alone one Stealth Cruiser. I think that they are just teleporters, designed to speed up the deployment of ground troops. (Most of this has already been said, I know) And this is unlikely, but the towers could have been dropped from orbit, it wouldn't be too hard to slow them down with anti gravity tech.

The dome is an EMP field, they could still cloak, in some unspecified manner.

  • 09.26.2010 5:46 PM PDT


Posted by: MOB74656
I'd like to point out a mistake made between the Journal and Game.


In Halsey's Journal, the last few entries do not correspond to the game at all. August 29th is the date that the remnants of Noble Team arrive to retrieve the Package (Cortana) from Halsey in her lab. (Source:: The Package, 9th level, Halo Reach). By the time August 29th came around, the Covenant already had begun it's invasion (For about 15 days), and had gained control of Sword Base, forcing Halsey to remain in her lab underneath the Base.

However, the Journal goes against this, making it seem like Halsey could roam around like nothing happened. She meets with all the remaining Spartan II's (Save Jorge who she does not know is dead) on August 27th. Now, if they managed to get through Sword, thats fine.

August 29th is the biggest farce. The day that Noble Team supposidly reached Halsey with Sword Base completly under Covenant control is the same day that John had surgery and Mark V tests? That's a bloody lie.

In the Journal, Noble Team does not reach Halsey until August 30th.



This.

  • 09.26.2010 5:51 PM PDT


Posted by: MOB74656
I'd like to point out a mistake made between the Journal and Game.


In Halsey's Journal, the last few entries do not correspond to the game at all. August 29th is the date that the remnants of Noble Team arrive to retrieve the Package (Cortana) from Halsey in her lab. (Source:: The Package, 9th level, Halo Reach). By the time August 29th came around, the Covenant already had begun it's invasion (For about 15 days), and had gained control of Sword Base, forcing Halsey to remain in her lab underneath the Base.

However, the Journal goes against this, making it seem like Halsey could roam around like nothing happened. She meets with all the remaining Spartan II's (Save Jorge who she does not know is dead) on August 27th. Now, if they managed to get through Sword, thats fine.

August 29th is the biggest farce. The day that Noble Team supposidly reached Halsey with Sword Base completly under Covenant control is the same day that John had surgery and Mark V tests? That's a bloody lie.

In the Journal, Noble Team does not reach Halsey until August 30th.


well i reckon halsey set off to help test John and as it was done knowing what was going on she reaced back to sword base with the split cortana to decode what was under sword base, remember the whole lot of dead marines? most likely they got her back into sword base. and noble meets halsey on the 29th on the 30th they go to the pillar to drop cortanas half off.

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  • 09.26.2010 5:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Alf stewert

Posted by: MOB74656
I'd like to point out a mistake made between the Journal and Game.


In Halsey's Journal, the last few entries do not correspond to the game at all. August 29th is the date that the remnants of Noble Team arrive to retrieve the Package (Cortana) from Halsey in her lab. (Source:: The Package, 9th level, Halo Reach). By the time August 29th came around, the Covenant already had begun it's invasion (For about 15 days), and had gained control of Sword Base, forcing Halsey to remain in her lab underneath the Base.

However, the Journal goes against this, making it seem like Halsey could roam around like nothing happened. She meets with all the remaining Spartan II's (Save Jorge who she does not know is dead) on August 27th. Now, if they managed to get through Sword, thats fine.

August 29th is the biggest farce. The day that Noble Team supposidly reached Halsey with Sword Base completly under Covenant control is the same day that John had surgery and Mark V tests? That's a bloody lie.

In the Journal, Noble Team does not reach Halsey until August 30th.


well i reckon halsey set off to help test John and as it was done knowing what was going on she reaced back to sword base with the split cortana to decode what was under sword base, remember the whole lot of dead marines? most likely they got her back into sword base. and noble meets halsey on the 29th on the 30th they go to the pillar to drop cortanas half off.


She would have never been able to get out of her Lab and help Test and Perform Surgury on John without being shot or captured by Covenant. Play the level the package, which is the same date that the surgery and test apparently happened. Covenant have control of both Sword and the land around it. Shades, Elites, Banshee's, Ghosts, Wraiths, Revenants, Hunters, and plenty more. She would have to have been a god to have lived.

The Marines were from the defense of Sword.

  • 09.26.2010 6:26 PM PDT

Alright Reach was twice the size of Earth, with only 20 Orbital guns. If you look at Reach it is huge, I seriously doubt that 20 orbital guns can cover the planet side to side and top to bottom. That being said, with Halo:Reach's release we obviously still don't know a thing about the covenant, and their stealth capabilities, the super carrier is highly plausable and with Reach being huge and a big UNSC asset, the attack on the Veiry territory, would draw all UNSC forces to stop the Covenant, this has happened in history where one foe would focus on one location but forget to look behind their back.

  • 09.26.2010 7:14 PM PDT

Also, just a fun tidbit.
On the level ONI when you reach the top of the elevator to go take care of the Banshees, Kat makes this comment:

"There have to be at least 4 Orbital Defense Platforms that could take this ship out, what are they doing?"

And that's it.

Apparently Bungie is aware that everything should've been blasted to bits, but decided not to without giving a reason as to why.

  • 09.26.2010 8:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hysterical Joker
Also, just a fun tidbit.
On the level ONI when you reach the top of the elevator to go take care of the Banshees, Kat makes this comment:

"There have to be at least 4 Orbital Defense Platforms that could take this ship out, what are they doing?"

And that's it.

Apparently Bungie is aware that everything should've been blasted to bits, but decided not to without giving a reason as to why.


True, however, there was also the beginning of the level, where DOT explains that MAC guns have been restricted from use due to the Cruiser being too close to SWORD

  • 09.26.2010 8:22 PM PDT


Posted by: MOB74656

Posted by: Hysterical Joker
Also, just a fun tidbit.
On the level ONI when you reach the top of the elevator to go take care of the Banshees, Kat makes this comment:

"There have to be at least 4 Orbital Defense Platforms that could take this ship out, what are they doing?"

And that's it.

Apparently Bungie is aware that everything should've been blasted to bits, but decided not to without giving a reason as to why.


True, however, there was also the beginning of the level, where DOT explains that MAC guns have been restricted from use due to the Cruiser being too close to SWORD

Oh, alright.

  • 09.26.2010 8:24 PM PDT

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Also, if you have any explanation to these canon errors, please, explain how they fit into canon, and the sources. Bungie stated at the very beginning of processing that the games had nothing to do with the books. In Bungie's eyes none of the other stuff happened. The Halo GAMES and the Halo BOOKS are two completely different stories. They may have the same people, but Bungie made the characters, so they're always right.

  • 09.26.2010 8:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: Twinkerdoodle

Also, if you have any explanation to these canon errors, please, explain how they fit into canon, and the sources. Bungie stated at the very beginning of processing that the games had nothing to do with the books. In Bungie's eyes none of the other stuff happened. The Halo GAMES and the Halo BOOKS are two completely different stories. They may have the same people, but Bungie made the characters, so they're always right.


Again, we state this excuse does nothing but blasts more poppycock over a once good story.

  • 09.26.2010 8:31 PM PDT