- Richomack360
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Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?
Right, I am going to have a go at trying to explain / offer theories on the below - purely to generate discussion - flaming etc is not wanted nor welcome in any part of this neck of the Universe
Error: Reach was invaded on July 24th.
Proof: All Halo media has always stated Reach fell in one day, and that day was August 30th.
Sources:Ghosts of Oynx, First Strike, Fall of Reach.
The main invasion could of been the 30th, however the insertion by the super carrier would have been on an earlier date
Error: Alpha Company was wiped out completely during Operation: PROMETHEUS in 2537. Carter, Emile, and Jun should not be alive.
Proof: Halo: Ghosts of Onyx goes into quite a bit of detail on Operation: PROMETHEUS. Spartan-III Alpha Company (comprised of 300 Spartans) were sent to K7-49 on a mission to destroy plasma reactors the Covenant were using to liquefy metallurgical components.
The operation was a success, but it is explicitly stated that it cost the lives of every Spartan-III on the asteroid because they got cut off from their Calypso-class Exfiltration crafts and completely lost their unit cohesion.
Halo Reach chooses to ignore this. Carter (A-259), Emile (A-239), and Jun (A-266) are a part of Noble Team when they should have been dead years ago; Bungie have given us no explanation on how they escaped at all.
Perhaps they were plucked before / during the mission as exceptional candiadtes ? If you had several grade A soldiers there would be little point sending them on a certain death trip. Does the little convo between Mendez and Kurt indicate that certain SIII's were plucked from operations ?
Error: ONI's actions as well as the Cole Protocol.
According to the Cole Protocol, if any Covenant Forces are detected, then all NAV bases and ships should purge their computers of information to protect Earth and the inner colonies.
Proof:If Covenant are detected on Reach on July 23rd, how is it that a month later, there are still computers with information to Earth still active? If ONI hadn't taken more than a month, than Blue team wouldn't have been deployed to the Circumference, and James wouldn't have died, and Linda wouldn't have been in a coma. Infact, they would have been on Reach with Red team.
Sources:
Pg 289 of The Fall of Reach gives information on the purging of Info not complete.
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/United_Nations_Space_Command_Emerg ency_Priority_Order_098831A-1
I think this is one of the biggest and subtle canon breaks in the game - unfortunately it feels like the average gamer would have no concept of the Cole Protocol...and if it had been included there would of been hundreds of threads asking what it was
Error: Carter, Emile, and Jun's age.
Carter is born in 2520. He was 11 years old when Alpha Company began their training. This puts him 5 years above the previously stated age, and it makes no sense at all. Why would they have an 11 year old on the same training regime as a 4 year old? It's too large of a difference, and it's an error that can be avoiding by simply changing his birthdate. This same thing goes for Emile and Jun, who are older than 6 years old at Alpha training.
Proof: Page 69(I'm doing this by memory, I may be wrong.) of Ghosts of Oynx states that all of Alpha Company was comprised of 4, 5, and 6 year old children that he was going to have to forge into the best warriors humanity has ever seen.
Source: Ghosts of Oynx, page 69.
This one I am not sure even I can explain, perhaps someone along the line lied about their ages (to boost numbers) for reasons unknown ?
Error: Lack of Orbital MAC's.
Proof: Reach had a number of Orbital MAC's that were used in the battle of Reach. They were present on August 30th, so they should have been present during the mission "Long Night of Solace" in Halo: Reach. Had they been present, they Jorge wouldn't have died. Where were they?
Source: Fall of Reach, First Strike, Halo: Reach
This was a large shocker, perhaps the MAC cannons were on a different side of the planet or clumped in a different area...if you were commander of the LNOS then you wouldn't move your prized ship into a firing line of a massive anti ship battery
- But, it seems like the MACS were made obsolete by Bungie's need to create a dramatic death...shame as I wanted to see the SMACS knock seven bells out of some ships
Error: Pillar of Autumn on Reach.
Proof During the final level of Halo: Reach, the Pillar of Autumn is on the planet, and isn't in space, preparing for the Prophet mission. This COMPLETELY destroys much of Halo's canon. If the ship wasn't in space, than the Spartans of Red Team would have never jumped to the planet, meaning that the 4 spartans who died, would have still been alive. Which could have hanged the outcome of the battle. PLUS, the space op to destroy the Circumference's NAV data wouldn't have happened. So Chief, James, and Linda had no reason to NOT be part of Red team. So the chief wouldn't have been on the Autumn, so Halo: CE wouldn't have happened.
Why schedule a mission to capture a prophet, when there's a full scale invasion of Humanities second most important planet?
Sources: Halo: Reach, Fall of Reach
Perhaps they knew Reach was doomed to fall, sending the Spartans on the ground would have consigned them and the UNSC's best soldiers to a burning end. Perhaps they were banking on capturing the prophet and halting the Covenant before they got to Earth ?
All in all I agree with Mr Caboose's points and each one can be answered by "Bungie retconned the books so the casuals could understand the story"
Sadly, that seems to be the case and I could have imagined Reach being a far better game if they had followed the books a little closer.
Fact I still cannot grasp (as they made the game assuming people had not read the books) is why they chose to use SIII's as the main characters ?
Not every Halo gamer would have heard of SIII's ? If they did assume that most people had read the books and knew of SIII's (to validate their inclusion) then why try to change some of the key facts contained in the books ?
Does seem to be a bit of a mess - but we also do not know of how much Bungie was allowed to show / reveal in the Halo timeline / galaxy as 343i might have the intellectual rights and potentially blocked Bungie on certain aspects ?
Just a thought
[Edited on 11.05.2010 7:02 AM PDT]