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CoD is a good game, even if the Halo series are better in some aspects. Anyone who insults either is just bad in that game. Grow up.
Posted by: Alf stewert
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Posted by: Alf stewert
Posted by: topperharley
Emile's death was badly scripted because;
a) Why didn't he shoot the phantom down with the rail gun?
b) Who was firing the plasma turret at 6, worst aim ever, of all time.
c) Zealot elites x6, spartan x1, why are they moving so slowly? Its comically bad timing.
d) Zealot elite allows himself to be stabbed very predicatbly in the neck. They are hard as nails, it was a cutscene on easy difficulty!
I know errors exist on other Halo games and in any game for that matter, but Reach felt illogical, uninspiring and just plain badly thought out. Proof, scenes like this.
I should say however, i really like the the fee of the game, the movements and i enjoy battling the AI, my issue is with canon/story driven failures.
did you miss the part were the mac was aimed at the cruiser did you miss the part were the phantom sped right through to emille hell do you not remember how slow the mac is to move?
and a stab to the neck can kill and elite his shields are down and the damage cause by loss of blood can and will kill a elite that and perhaps emille stabbed the elite more on the ground.
Emille was occupied with the crusier enough to not notice another elite behind him his suit may have been damaged at this point of the game.
I'd thought that his arguments, although not complete, would be sufficient to prove my point...but looks like I'll have to add my own...
So the MAC was aimed at the cruiser, and let's assume that Emile was not able to turn it to destroy the phantom there were still plenty of stupid things in the short cutscene...
-Why did none of the Pelican pilots seem to have realized that the phantom was there? there was no "Noble 4 (or Captain Keyes), we have an incoming phantom, approaching fast" or whatever. Let me remind you that you can actually see that phantom coming in the cutscene itself.
-When the phantom did show up, why did the pelicans not engage it? Granted, the first pelican (which was the escort, supposed to be on guard) was taken out fast because it did not shoot at the phantom as it appeared, instead, it faced a completely wrong direction. That still doesn't change the fact that the pelican carrying Keyes did not engage the phantom at any point.
-Why did the phantom change its target from the pelicans to Noble six? The pelican is obviously a much larger threat.
-Why did Noble six just crouch there? a well trained soldier would have tried to do something; get to cover, run to avoid the plasma bolts, or even just warn Emile. None of these happened.
-The covenant phantom just left after dropping off the two zealots. Why didn't it stick around to make sure the job was done? Why didn't it engage the pelican and Noble six? For that matter, why didn't the pelican engage the phantom?
-Emile was frking slow. He definitely took his time killing the first elite, something that should not happen in a clearly hostile area. The entire sequence of stand up-aim-pump-shotgun-shoot took way too long. Why didn't he pump the shotgun as he aimed?
-And then he proceeded to fail by saying "who's next?" to the dead body of the elite instead of looking around for more danger, not checking his motion sensor, since he was caught off-guard by the second zealot.
-At the point when the second elite showed up, he again showed the skills and agility of a standard marine instead of an augmented super-soldier. First, he was not aware of the elite's presence, despite the lists of clues he would have had, then, when it growled, he did not even dive away, turn around, or anything. He lets himself get stabbed.
So there you go...a list of things that didn't make sense in one single cutscene because Bungie couldn't spare some time making sure the cutscenes were logically constructed. By the way, saying emile's armor may have been damaged doesn't make it true. For all we know, it wasn't, as we didn't see it happen. Saying that the armor was damaged has no proof; only speculation.
Enter button please learn to use it. anyway hmm lets see a planets the pilots lived on being destroyed and a cruiser coming in to destroy them would make anyone edgy the first pelican was killed because it wasnt facing the same way as the phantom it was facing the Autumn Why? we can Assume that it was looking out for cruisers to see if any were coming from the other side of the autumn it was occupied by this in which it would obviously get destroyed and as they had the package it started moving towards the Autumn then got shot down it was in a hurry to get back to the POA.
The pelican couldnt engage it was on a time limit a small window to escape why spend time fighting a phantom which could take you out when you got something that could end a war? God hopes your not in charge of a humanity saving feat we would all die.
the phantom had Elites on board they most likely wanted a worthy kill so they left the pelican and killed emille knowing six would have to ascend to the cannon o help the POA they fired warning shots to get him agitated so the Fight would be more worthy for the most part.
emille dieing we all new emile was up on himself from visigrad to now he would still be cocky for the most part,
anyway thats my look on things.
I seriously don't understand how you can convince yourself of these things...and btw, a list is a list no matter how many enters I press, it would have just made the thread even longer.
So let's first look at the overview of what you said here. Most of it is based on assumptions, and very narrow ones at that...
The pilots of the first pelican were probably edgy, but I don't see how that makes a difference. they being edgy doesn't stop their role from being the escort-the one looking out for hostiles that could cause immediate harm to the captain of the ship. (who shouldn't be there...)
You assume that the pelican is trying to see if any covenant ships are coming from the other side of the PoA. Well, that's an assumption, and a poorly based one at that. From its angle, the pelican wouldn't be able to see past the PoA any more than Keyes or Noble Six would have. The POA have sensors and cameras too, and its crew would have known if a ship was coming from that direction. As well, even if the pelican DOES see a covenant ship, what the hell could it do? What can anyone do? The MAC gun isn't facing the right way if the covenant ship was to come from that direction anyways, and it wouldn't have saved the PoA from getting destroyed.
Then the next part is just plain stupid. Let me remind you that the phantom can be seen approaching the area, and with all their sensors and directions they covered, they still somehow managed to miss it. Again, the escort failed its job. Why would it leave for the PoA before Keyes's pelican does?
The pelican had a time limit, true, but that isn't saying much. The phantom left as soon as they dropped off the two zealots, and the pelican had plenty of time to engage the phantom as the zealots were killing Emile. Remember in Halo 3 where a pelican easily destroyed 2 phantoms? Why wouldn't they have done that? As big a threat to the pelican as the phantom was, why would you risk having it around? What if the phantom decided to destroy the second pelican? A dead captain and a lost relic is so much better than a few seconds spent on destroying a threat, right? And at this point I should mention too that it's retarded that the phantom did not attack the second pelican...why would they just leave if it was so easy to destroy a pelican?
I don't understand your statements about the zealots and the worthy kill analogy, but if they knew that noble 6 would take over the MAC gun and destroy the cruiser, why the hell would they let him live? And wtf? firing shots to agitate him? Either way, I'm pretty sure they'd prefer destroying an entire ship AND kill Six than to just get one "worthy kill".
Everyone know that Emile is cocky, but Spartans are not driven by emotions, and I fail to see how being cocky would have reduced him to having the same skills as a normal marine. He had plenty of time in the cutscene, yet he still failed to anticipate and counter the zealots. Bungie had a million ways to humanize Spartans, and they chose the easiest one: Making them weak.
And you still didn't counter all of my points, and the ones you addressed you gave your opinions on what happened, not exactly the logic behind why those things happened.
Ps. Before you decide to start the grammar -blam!- fight, maybe you should fix your transitions and punctuations. It took me several readings to understand what you're saying.