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Posted by: DngerlyAwkwrd
I'm gonna settle this for everybody.
"Reach wasn't invaded until August 30, 2552! Where's the Cole Protocol?!"
Winter Contingency was declared, which put the Cole Protocol on hold until it had to be put into action. They couldn't risk losing all the data they had on Reach so soon.
Okay, are you pulling this out of your ass, or...what? Because, to my knowledge, this is never stated in the game, or in any of the books. Regardless, this is an extremely small detail, but you're going to need to provide a source for where you got your info on the Winter Contengincy. The only information I can provide is from the bonus content in the reissue of TFoR, where specific orders are given to all ONI agents that Cole Protocol mandates are in effect.
What happened from July 23rd - August 29 can best be explained from a quote from Signs:
"They send out a scouting force, to check things out. [To] make sure everything's A-OK,"
"For what?"
"...For the rest of them,"
ONI kept things quiet. They only invaded a certain area of Reach. On 8/30/2552, they attacked the entire planet with full forces.
Right, cause M. Night Shamylan movies are extremely relevant to Halo. Regardless, your quote is self defeating; in Signs, everyone -blam!- knows the aliens are there, and that was a SMALL scale invasion with a few foot soldiers, Reach's "scouting force" consisted of at least two Covenant Frigates and gorram Supercarrier(which was ~27KM long.) That Supercarrier could carry just as many troops as Regret's ships could in H2. Not. A. Scouting. Force.
"How do they have MJOLNIR Mk. V if nobody got it until August 26?!"
Listen, Noble Team was an elite fighting force. ONI gave them the best weaponry and equipment possible.
Yes, and the SPARTAN II's are not at an elite fighting force. Obviously.
"What's MJOLNIR Mk. VI doing in the armory?!"
Relax. It's only a prototype.
This doesn't even need to be adressed, for the same reason there aren't a bunch of SIII's running around killing eachother in Emile's helmet.
"Alpha Company was wiped out in Operation Prometheus! What's up with Carter, Emile, and Jun?!"
Carter (along with Kat, for the record) was pulled out of Alpha Company and put into a SIII group called Blue Team. Jun and Emile were probably pulled out too, like Jorge was pulled out of the SIIs.
Fine, but when it comes to the other SIII teams (Echo and Gauntlet, probably more) the list of SIII's being ONI'd into existance is getting long, and making less sense.
"Where were the SMACs?!"
They could have had a cloaking system. They've been fighting the Covenant for 27 years. I think that gave them some time to reverse engineer ship-designed cloaking devices. Who knows what ONI was capable of?
Are you kidding me? Are you being funny? You're going to tell me, that, first of all, the UNSC somehow found a way to make their SMACs invisible anti-son-of-a--blam!- machines, and the Covenenat STILL got around them? Aside from the fact that you just pulled that out of your ass, it makes no sense. Why weren't the SMACs at Earth cloaked? Why didn't the PoA get cloaking? Why didn't the UNSC Cruisers get cloaking? And if the SMACs were cloaked, this still doesn't explain why they did not shoot down the Frigate and Supercarrier that were in orbit.
And the biggest whine of them all...
Seriously, -blam!- you.
"The Pillar of Autumn couldn't be on Reach!"
How could a huge ship like that dock? Simple. If you saw WALL-E, you would know it could have docked similarly to the Axiom did at the end of the movie.
Again, WALL-E and Halo are completely different. WALL-E was vastly more technilogically advanced than Halo.
And here's what happened if you connect The Fall of Reach with Halo: Reach:
1. The Pillar of Autumn heads to the rally point to assist UNSC forces.
I'm with you so far, though I do ask why the PoA was leaving Reach when they had been under heavy combat for almost a month and, as said by Carter, lost every ship capable of carrying a nuke (aside from the Savannah and the PoA and...all the rest of the ships that were apparently killed by 3 Covenant ships....somehow) I'd also like to ask why ONI would send the SII's away when, by Augest 30, Reach had been basically lost, and why the SIIs never defended they're "home".
2. Captain Keyes drops off John-117, Kelly, and James to the station to destroy the data on the UNSC Circumfrence.
Circumference had a month to purge they're nav data, or leave Reach. Gonna need to explain that one.
3. After all is said and done, they set a slipspace route.
Still have allot of stuff to explain, but okay.
4. Dr. Halsey sends a distress call to Keyes to recieve the Package (Cortana's clone). The Pillar of Autumn docks and recieves repairs while awaiting the Package's arrival.
Repairs from who? Who was left on Reach at this point? How did the PoA land on Reach? They would need to get past the ENTIRE Covenant fleet that had overrun Reach, land without being shot down, expedite repairs from some random workers still on Reach, attatch the jets they use to get back into space, and wait for however long they had to after that for Noble 6 to bring the Cortana fragment, all while not being overwhelmed by the Covenant forced that own the planet now. O...kay... (fine, it's capable of landing, I don't carre about that)(The PoA also spent all this time on the ground and didn't think about unfreezing Master Chief so that he could help defend the PoA, nor did they try to contact the ~20 SIIs they had earlier suicidally launched onto the plantet)
5. Noble Six gives Keyes the Package. The Pillar of Autumn launches.
Still some big gaps you need to fill there.
6. They head into a "random" Slipspace route set by Cortana (plus the data recieved from the Package)
Which was already gleamed from the rock found on Cote D'Azure. Making all those lives that were sacrificed to get the Cortana fragment to the PoA absolutely pointless.
7. 15 days later on September 14, 2552, the Pillar of Autumn finds Alpha Halo, aka Installation 04.
Well, okey dokey, but theres still quite a few gaps that need to be filled here.
[Edited on 01.26.2011 4:41 PM PST]