I don't like cocaine, I just like the way it smells.
The Elites were made to look more like the Halo: CE version, which I thought was a great move. The Elite's haven't been the same since they were hunched forward in Halo 2, and the taller profile is visually more intimidating, for me at least. The aesthetic differences in Halo Wars were from reinterpretation - they wanted the Elites to look mean, and they succeeded. I like both looks. In the end, it's interpretation.
Noble is explicitly the exception to the rules. Most S-III's still aren't quite up to S-II standards, even if they're still far superior to regular soldiers/Marines, and are capable of using MJOLNIR. The members of Noble have the same genetic profile as the S-II's, and were therefore reassigned so they wouldn't be wasted on kamikaze missions. Again, no contradiction. As for the armour - what's wrong with customisation? Different armour components have different properties, and even in war a soldier wants to personalise what is his/hers. It happened in Vietnam. I'm sure it probably happens today. If anyone wants to correct me on this, feel free.
Who ever said the M392 and the BR55 were even the same series? The DMR is much earlier, and is being replaced by the BR55. That doesn't make it the "test version", it makes it the BR55's predecessor. And notice that Halo Wars and Contact Harvest were based on a Marine perspective - the Army uses different materiel. The two branches have different requirements, different acquisition methods and aims, so it makes sense that their arsenals differ a little. I'd be surprised if they didn't.
You can't "Break" Canon. You can only add to it. Sometimes you need to modify some bits, clarify others, in the form of retcons, ie the dates of the Fall of Reach. But the only thing that can "break" it would be something major, ie; saying that the Master Chief is a enlisted as a Marine and was made a Spartan later, when we have so many other sources stating otherwise. That's an example of something that completely ignores the canon. Bungie didn't take the Halo Bible and throw it out the window. They looked through it, selected what they wanted to keep, partitioned others that they wanted to modify, and set to work.
I'm sorry, but this just seems like a huge overreaction. I'm not blaming you specifically for it, because its one a lot of fans share. But I think TV Tropes perfectly summarises this kind of thing. -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 23:51, 4 March 2011 (EST)
Vegerot (talk) 20:19, 5 March 2011 (EST)While we have pretty much given him a good talking to on the technological portion of this. The big thing that I don't know is the timeline. Like the Pillar of Autumn landing. Or Gamma Station (or wherever they saw the big blob from one of the probes and blew themselves up) knowing about the Covenant yet apparently Noble Team was 1st, and then alerted FLEET COMMAND. Again, I'm not trying to be like Atlas and claim that this isn't canon. I'm just asking.
Essentially, The Fall of Reach claimed that the planet was invaded in one day (a ridiculous proposition when you think of the logistics that would require), and that the rest of the campaign, well into September, was just guerrilla holdouts and desperate breaks through enemy lines. Reach stretches things out a bit, with a small expeditionary taskforce to pave the way arriving in July, skirmishes around their footholds in Viery, and then the arrival of an entire Covenant fleet, which matches with the FoR's events, retconning it so that these are reinforcements rather than the initial invasion. The Spartans, whose viewpoint we're given, don't know that this is a follow-up effort because they weren't told - their preparations for Operation: RED FLAG were too important to distract them with details like the battle for their home, and Halsey needed their minds focussed 100% on the mission. As for the Pillar of Autumn, we know that by the time it's cradled on Reach the Master Chief has already been taken back aboard - the cryotube is either him or, I think more likely, Linda. This is a brief stop, the recover part of Cortana, after which they head off to Alpha Halo.
Does that answer everything? -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 05:09, 6 March 2011 (EST)
Vegerot (talk) 12:32, 6 March 2011 (EST): Yeah, the only thing that I don't get now is Cortana. Because I read Dr. Halsey's Journal yet it doesn't make sense. Because if Halsey wanted the PoA to have the full Cortana then they would have had Cortana. If she wanted to keep part of Cortana, then she would have not asked NOBLE to retrieve her. Also, is it right to assume that ONI didn't create the SPARTAN-III variant of MJOLNIR with the Memory-processor superconductor layer, because that was almost half the cost of the armor. Also, Cortana could have just changed herself (as in updating her calculations, like in the Fall of Reach, when she says "in fact, now I have just made it a 98 percent chance") like she did with John-117 to speed SPARTAN-B312's reflexes and provide support in the Battle Field.
Halsey divided Cortana because she needed her to finish archiving the data gathered from the relics under Sword Base. At the same time, Cortana needed to accomodate herself aboard the Pillar of Autumn, a lengthy process. The solution was to split her into two separate halves until Operation: RED FLAG was launched, at which point they would be reunited. The plan needed to be modified, because the unexpected arrival of Covenant reinforcements cut the two halves off from each other, and the results of the Sword Base dig turned out to be more important than anyone could guess, hence the involvement of Noble.
And while I don't think it's explicitly stated, I don't think that Noble's MJOLNIR would need the equipment to support a Smart AI, otherwise Six would have uploaded Cortana to his suit rather than carry her in a rather fragile-looking container. It makes sense - that's what much of the cost and effort go into, so removing it would make sense from an economic point of view. Dot is a more primitive construct, and I don't know if she's even carried in combat anyway - I got the impression that she was stored elsewhere, perhaps on the Pelican, and communicating at range. Having every Spartan equipped with an AI would have been unrealistic - I think the plan was always that only John would carry Cortana. -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 23:01, 6 March 2011 (EST)
I got the impression that Dot was a military AI, not assigned to Noble but rather to the UNSC Army. She seems to reflect the mannerisms of a Dumb AI, and has access to be able to contact cameras and military surveillance equipment all over the planet. She may be attached to Reach instead, but one scene with Jorge implies she doesn't understand Hungarian, which could suggest she's assigned to the Army rather than to Reach (or maybe Jorge was just mumbling!) Tuckerscreator(stalk) 19:49, 7 March 2011 (EST)
If only more of you guys were in the Bungie Universe Forum on Bungie.net. Literally 2/3's of the population is the same as the original poster. Missing Mandible 18:57, 10 March 2011 (EST)
What does that mean? Vegerot (talk) 19:15, 10 March 2011 (EST)?!!
Things are very heptic over there. I can think of a few, by name, that claim that Bungie completely ignore the Halo Bible, that Bungie did this as a Middle Finger to Microsoft, that MS forced them to defy canon, that Bungie forced Nylund to "Come up with the excuse that you call Halsey's Journal." The list just goes on. (If you are refering to the Original Poster, it means the guy that started this discussion {The one who posted first}) Missing Mandible 19:22, 10 March 2011 (EST)
So then what do you say? You wanna move this (aka, copy and paste) talk to Bungie.net?Vegerot (talk) 19:53, 10 March 2011 (EST)?!?!
You can try, but many of the points have been said before. Many times, in fact. Yet people still refuse listen.
I have already given up on that community. I used to look up to some of those people, but, nowadays, I no longer give a -blam!- about them. Half the time I just roll my eyes and move on. Missing Mandible 20:06, 10 March 2011 (EST)
goes on Bungie.net Forums* Yikes!!! Just come the -blam!- down with Armor Lock already! You're right. It seems more like a Bungie-hating forum rather than a Bungie Discussion forum! But can you give me the link to a few of the Topics regarding canon. As Bungie doesn't have a search feature that I know of. Vegerot (talk) 20:38, 10 March 2011 (EST)!!
You need to go to the Bungie Universe Forum, not Halo Reach's Forum. Missing Mandible 21:02, 10 March 2011 (EST)