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Posted by: Nuke incoming
Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Posted by: privet caboose
HALO REACH IS ALL ONI PROPAGANDA.
Actually I kinda buy that one...Legendary edition comes in a crate with the letter saying "this is the most accurate depiction of the battle we could piece together" or something like that. ONI probably made the battle seem like it was drawn out and we barely lost it, rather than let the public know what a bloodbath it was...So...by it never happening, it fits canon...I think what he's saying is that some of the stuff can't be confirmed because it was pieced together by people at ONI.
I posted my thoughts on this a while ago in Coma's Canon fixes thread (I think it was his) I'll see if I can find my thoughts...
EDIT: Found it :D Searchbar is my friend :P
With the Limited and Legendary editions of Reach, there was a piece of paper which says:
You are now in possession of the most complete and accurate account that anyone has been able to assemble of SPECWAR/GroupTHREE/NOBLE's actions during the final weeks before the Covenant glassed Reach.
I suspect your interest in all of this has something to do with your involvement in Operation WHITE GLOVE. Coincidentally, Halsey made multiple inquiries about NOBLE just as everything started going all to hell. She's the one loose end that may never be wrapped up satisfactorily - no body, no closure. In any event, I secured the next best thing for you. Section 0 has had it for some time - so there's that - but I think you'll find enough intel in here for your purposes.
-W
Who is W?
And this does leave a bit of wiggle room with the story, as it says "The most complete and accurate account that anyone has been able to assemble of SPECWAR/GroupTHREE/NOBLE's actions during the final weeks before the Covenant glassed Reach."Therefore, the events depicted in the game can be classified as unreliable intel, subject to human bias because they are the "most accurate" anyone has been able to produce. This does not necessarily mean they are the correct series of events that took place. They could have been exaggerated greatly by ONI for propaganda purposes. For example ONI would have increased the size of the Supercarrier so that when they blew it up, it showed civilians and military that the Covenant can be beaten, no matter how big their ships are.
This also means that ONI would have edited out the less interesting parts, or parts that showed the UNSC losing badly, and edited in parts such as the PoA being on Reach and then taking off, because they (ONI) thought that a single Longsword was not exciting enough to boost the troops' morale. This opens up the idea that ONI skewed the dates of the entire conflict, so as to make it look like the UNSC can hold out against the Covenant, albeit not indefinitely. Again, this would be morale boosting.
This means that the Pillar of Autumn is not on Reach, and the Cortana Fragment was picked up by Keyes, albeit in a Longsword, and the interactive disc (Halo: Reach game disc) has been edited by ONI to improve the storyline, to make it more epic, if you will.
Noble Team's involvements in the conflict could also have been manipulated for storyline purposes, such as the Long Night of Solace action. It may have just been shot by an ODP, but this was changed to make the protagonists seem more involved int the defence of Reach. This implies that Jorge died in a less heroic way, such as being assassinated by an Elite or he was blown up by a Wraith tank.
ONI could have changed the details of Noble Team's deaths, so as to make the story more tragic, which leads me to the possibility that Noble Six never died, as his actions in "Lone Wolf" are falsified for the purposes of a good war movie. The reason I say they were falsified is because there were no living UNSC soldiers or civilians in the area, and the whole area was glassed anyway, erasing any recordings the helmet cameras might have made. Therefore, Six may still be alive, and floating through space in a Pelican, or on another Human colony.
The part of the letter I quoted be interpreted as:
"We (ONI) had a cursory look round Reach at the end of the war, found this Journal, and made up most of the rest of what's on the interactive disc (Reach game disc) to suit our needs, and show how Noble team sacrificed themselves to defend Reach."
I hate to say it but Bungie covered themselves pretty well with this one letter. Essentially this letter could make the whole Halo:Reach plot irrelevant, and there is actually another story, yet to be told.
Orphius.
[Edited on 03.20.2011 1:06 PM PDT]