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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Except the Saturn V never landed on solid ground. It landed in the ocean (and used parachutes, not thrusters). Unless you mean the Lunar Lander landing on the surface of the moon. The only reason that worked was because of the moon's gravity being so low and the craft being incredibly light.
The PoA is an entirely different beast. I can understand Frigates being able to fly around the surface, but the PoA was a much larger ship.
No, I don't mean the Lunar Lander. The forces used are different, but the principle is the same thing.
The Spirit of Fire was floating around in the Shield World's atmosphere just fine, and it was at least as big as Earth, also the Spirit was much bigger than the Autumn. I don't think these ships have any problem being in atmosphere, their weight may be a slight problem just entering atmosphere willy-nilly, but there would be certain procedures to properly enter atmo.
There is no Halo 4, first off. Second it is rare that the games lead into the books directly. In fact, they never have. I agree that it may have a purpose but we will have to see if that purpose is realized within the re-creation of Halo CE that 343 is overseeing.
343i has confirmed that there will be a Halo 4, I can't remember if they said that's what they're going to do first or not, but there will be a Halo 4 at some point down the road. There has been absolutely no confirmation from an official source if the rumors about a CE remake are true. First Strike and CE are directly linked with each other, so the games and books do lead into each other at least once. And Cryptum pretty spawned straight from the Terminals in Halo 3. The information from the SWORD Artifact will be more developed at some point because it was directly stated that it was important, whether it will be in another game, a book, a comic, an animated short, or something else entirely it will be expounded on at some point.
If I were the UNSC, if I saw a Covenant carrier at a key planet I would immediately call back all available ships in anticipation of more Covenant arriving. Better safe than sorry. They know the location of the planet, it is only a matter of time before it gets attacked.
And they did do that, as soon as they found out about the Super Carrier all ships were being recalled to Reach. Remember the cutscene right after Tip of the Spear? Dot talks about the first groups of ships arriving within 48 hours. They may have even called them in before the Long Night of Solace was discovered.
It just seems like a waste to throw out old canon. It is basically taking fan effort and flushing it down a toilet and telling them to re-learn what they already know. It just seems that those who write this canon haven't even tried to make things fit.
I can understand that sentiment, but Bungie has been pretty good about canon, in comparison to other universes anyway. Maybe they were content with how they had fit things together and over-estimated the community, idk, but I know that Reach and TFoR can still connect, we may not actually have an official sequence of events to go look at, but it's not hard to connect the threads.
I am referring to First Strike, and no Halsey's Journal didn't really fix much at all.
And how exactly does Reach conflict with First Strike? It explained everything that really needed, anything else can easily be fit together by the fans, such as the Autumn landing on Reach and the extending of the battle.
If there is actual conflict, the these claims aren't "baseless".
They conflict, but that doesn't mean the conflict breaks canon. I'm not saying something conflicts is a baseless claim, I'm talking about making claims that something breaks canon.
They aren't baseless. But I understand your point. Just keep in mind that without questions there are no answers and my purpose here is to try and ask the questions you guys can't answer. But instead many of you just glaze over the really hard questions and give half-hearted replies or avoid the questions all together. We know the canon, and we understand that this canon will (hopefully) get mended and smoothed back into a fluid stream of events. What I am wondering is why the current canon has been rewritten. I have checked several times and it could have easily been kept unchanged. Yet here we are with an entirely new book needing to be written and a total of three books disagreeing with the most recent game.
Again, my intent is also not to "crucify" anyone. But you would think that when dealing with more than likely the most closely held Halo book in the saga they would at least read the book recently enough to recall events correctly.
TFoR is the only book that disagrees with Reach, there are no conflicts between it and the others because any conflicts that might have been were fixed in either the marketing materials for Reach or in Halsey's Journal.
I haven't glazed anything over or given any half-hearted replies to people's problems with the campaign. You (and others) may not be satisfied with my answers, but the same answer won't satisfy everybody. My answers satisfy my own questions, and that's enough for me. I've got nothing against asking questions or searching for answers, 'cause that helps improve your own knowledge of the story. But in our asking of questions we shouldn't automatically assume the worst when something doesn't seem to fit, instead find the option where everything fits best in your eyes without ignoring or tampering too much with the information available.