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Posted by: OrderedComa
Obviously there is, since they have those tugs in Reach, and that whole cradle landing pad thing was there. As to why a ship would have a reason to land, I can't think of anything right now off the top of my head...but I'll get back to you on it. Though I think what Rotary said several posts above is a good suggestion, makes perfect sense to me.
This "established system" is an assumption using the game we are currently disputing. Without REASON there is no point to having a system. Having it because they do is stupid. Something existing because it exists is paradoxical. And for emergencies, yes. I can understand that. But let me give you an example about how emergencies in similar situations today are handled.
Lets take the crash landing of a plane. If a plane cannot land properly do they send tug planes out to assist it land? No, they don't. They clear the landing site and minimize the collateral damage. This would more than likely be the same procedure for any ships in an emergency situation that could not make it to a station. Planes are made to crash land as best they can but they are not meant to crash "safely". Anyone getting on a plane knows that in the event of an emergency their lives are not guaranteed. Just like those serving on a naval ship understand that when their ship sinks all they have is their life rafts to save them and the hope they are retrieved before the elements overcome them.
The same would be true for a space ship.
Posted by: OrderedComa
I didn't say he was solely concerned about the damage, I was saying that would be why he believed it would pancake and the landing would be better experienced away from the Autumn. I'd be nervous about landing too if I didn't have the right resources and similar things to help the ship land, the quote does not indicate to me anything about it not being able to fly in atmosphere.
But his PRIORITY is placed on it NOT BEING MADE FOR ATMOSPHERE. That is my point. Assuming he had concerns about damage when his concerns were obviously elsewhere is just the same as putting words in his mouth. WHY would he be MORE CONCERNED about the fact the ship wasn't made for atmospheric operation than the heavy damage it had taken? Possibly because regardless of the damage it had taken, landing was a bad idea to begin with.
And how is that breaking canon? And being another Spartan program would be merely a suspicion, because as I said, for all she knew they could have been a second batch of IIs. Halsey really didn't know anything definite until First Strike, and as I said, the information she gained from Ackerson's file as well as the vague hunches and proofs she had found before makes her actions seem much more in tune with her character.
Another batch of II's that she isn't aware of? That IS another Spartan program. Regardless of how you make it sound, they were Spartans from a program Halsey didn't know of, aka ANOTHER PROGRAM!
Posted by: OrderedComa
1. That was at the Battle of Sigma Octanus, not Reach, easy confusion to make though, lots of the space battle have a tendency to blend together for me as well. Halopedia says in its summary of the battle that at least three repair and refit stations were used as shields by the UNSC in the first phase of the space battle. Well they obviously were practical shields or the UNSC would not have used them as such.
If you read the thread someone corrected me on this already. And I'm talking about the stations around Reach that obviously WERE NOT those ones, seeing as MC was on such a station. Those are not the only stations surrounding Reach.
Posted by: OrderedComa
2. Last I checked none of the Halo characters have the gift of prophecy, there would be no way anyone would know that Halsey and Red Team would meet up with the Chief in First Strike, and with the Covenant practically knocking on your door, if there's information you want to safe-guard, you'll try and get it away from Covenant hands by any means necessary.
Ugh... I'm talking STORY WISE, not characters. In terms of writing the storyline it could have been done that way and still worked. There are NUMEROUS ways it COULD HAVE BEEN but Bungie opted for an entirely new series of events that conflict with most everything that originally happened, as such conflicting with FOUR BOOKS (Fall of Reach, The Flood, First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx).
Posted by: OrderedComa
Reach Station Gamma wasn't really repair station, it was for communications and smaller ships such as Prowlers docked inside it. It repaired smaller ships, but that was it, it wasn't meant for large repair jobs such as on Frigate, Destroyers, or stuff like that.
Regardless, it proves there are smaller stations that are not the ones used for shields. Which was my point. Yet you seem to think my point was that it was a repair station. Congrats on arguing a completely irrelevant detail.
[Edited on 05.15.2011 4:45 PM PDT]