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Subject: Unexplainable errors in the Halo canon. (Spoilers)

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Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: HellKnight2153
It's a couple of very small details, but "Noble" Team was the error. The name itself, I mean. All spartan teams have been named after colors...


That only applies to the II's.

The III's had names after various things. "Alpha, Foxtrot, Katana, Saber, Team-Wolf-Pack."


Indeed. My apologies, I get my years mixed up sometimes. I should go read Ghosts of Onyx again anyway, what an amazing book.

  • 05.27.2011 4:15 AM PDT

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hmm... good point maybe bungie wanted to alter the storyline?

just a theory

  • 05.27.2011 4:21 AM PDT

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books suck, reading is lame.

games rock, games are...game?

bungie created halo and its story, eric nylund didnt.

id say about 60% of the reach gamers have heard of the books but not necessarily read them. ultimately they dont care.

99.9% of the xbox live community is unable to read because they are to young.

therefor bungie have the right to make a kick ass game that screws a few of the books ideas.

problem solved :)

  • 05.27.2011 4:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: GingerBenj
books suck, reading is lame.

games rock, games are...game?

bungie created halo and its story, eric nylund didnt.

id say about 60% of the reach gamers have heard of the books but not necessarily read them. ultimately they dont care.

99.9% of the xbox live community is unable to read because they are to young.

therefor bungie have the right to make a kick ass game that screws a few of the books ideas.

problem solved :)


Why are you even in the Universe Forum?

  • 05.27.2011 4:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: GingerBenj
books suck, reading is lame.

games rock, games are...game?

bungie created halo and its story, eric nylund didnt.

id say about 60% of the reach gamers have heard of the books but not necessarily read them. ultimately they dont care.

99.9% of the xbox live community is unable to read because they are to young.

therefor bungie have the right to make a kick ass game that screws a few of the books ideas.

problem solved :)


... Get out if you're not willing to contribute to this thread. Universe thread is ABOUT discussion of canon standing, elements, books, etc. As you know, books are canon. If you're thinking that books are boring to read, then it shows that you're obviously uneducated, refusing to learn more. And most of your claims are false. You should research little more before you go making with misleading, unreliable information without any evidence.

  • 05.27.2011 4:31 PM PDT

Bungie Studios doesn't control crap anymore. 343 Industries does.

  • 05.27.2011 9:27 PM PDT

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Wtf bungie. Reach gameplay wise is the best but the story fail ruined the whole thing. I felt horrible after i beat the campaign. It was the most disapointing end to a game i ever had. The last entry to a huge series ends with a huge break in the story. Were your story writers drunk? Thats just sad.

  • 05.31.2011 9:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: wswartzendruber
Bungie Studios doesn't control crap anymore. 343 Industries does.

343 cares just look at highlands. It's right from the book. Mabye they'll give halo the care that bungie gave the first 3 games.

  • 05.31.2011 9:06 AM PDT
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damn good read fellas.

  • 05.31.2011 9:40 AM PDT


Posted by: Itz JABLEs

Posted by: wswartzendruber
Bungie Studios doesn't control crap anymore. 343 Industries does.

343 cares just look at highlands. It's right from the book. Mabye they'll give halo the care that bungie gave the first 3 games.


Where does highlands take place

  • 05.31.2011 1:13 PM PDT


Posted by: wswartzendruber
Bungie Studios doesn't control crap anymore. 343 Industries does.


A valid point to bring up, but what is the point of mentioning it at all?

  • 05.31.2011 1:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: immadchill

Posted by: Itz JABLEs

Posted by: wswartzendruber
Bungie Studios doesn't control crap anymore. 343 Industries does.

343 cares just look at highlands. It's right from the book. Mabye they'll give halo the care that bungie gave the first 3 games.


Where does highlands take place


It's a reservation in the middle of a forest in Reach, I think it was the one where the Spartans trained when they were kids. I might be mistaken though.

[Edited on 05.31.2011 6:44 PM PDT]

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Posted by: immadchill

Posted by: Itz JABLEs

Posted by: wswartzendruber
Bungie Studios doesn't control crap anymore. 343 Industries does.

343 cares just look at highlands. It's right from the book. Mabye they'll give halo the care that bungie gave the first 3 games.


Where does highlands take place


It's a reservation in the middle of a forest in Reach, I think it was the one where the Spartans trained when they were kids. I might be mistaken though.


No, you're not mistaken. It is actual correct; as from The Fall of Reach novel. I can check the pages if you want to.

  • 05.31.2011 7:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: GingerBenj
books suck, reading is lame.

games rock, games are...game?



You just lost all credibility. Ever.

  • 05.31.2011 7:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: immadchill

Posted by: Itz JABLEs

Posted by: wswartzendruber
Bungie Studios doesn't control crap anymore. 343 Industries does.

343 cares just look at highlands. It's right from the book. Mabye they'll give halo the care that bungie gave the first 3 games.


Where does highlands take place


It's a reservation in the middle of a forest in Reach, I think it was the one where the Spartans trained when they were kids. I might be mistaken though.


No, you're not mistaken. It is actual correct; as from The Fall of Reach novel. I can check the pages if you want to.


Nah, I'm okay with the you're not mistaken bit.

  • 05.31.2011 7:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: immadchill

Posted by: Itz JABLEs

Posted by: wswartzendruber
Bungie Studios doesn't control crap anymore. 343 Industries does.

343 cares just look at highlands. It's right from the book. Mabye they'll give halo the care that bungie gave the first 3 games.


Where does highlands take place


It's a reservation in the middle of a forest in Reach, I think it was the one where the Spartans trained when they were kids. I might be mistaken though.


One of several facilities is more like it. Highland's facilities don't seem to fit the description of the main base they've trained at since kids.

  • 05.31.2011 7:46 PM PDT

Posted by: Darth1Snyder
Everytime someone sacks my groceries, I think of Loaf.

I consider Halo: Reach an alternate realty where spartan III's are given Mjolnir armor and are as good as a spartan II, but as far as I'm concerned, this campaign isn't canon.

  • 05.31.2011 9:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: SPARTAN 32192
I consider Halo: Reach an alternate realty where spartan III's are given Mjolnir armor and are as good as a spartan II, but as far as I'm concerned, this campaign isn't canon.


True, in the true reality, Spartan III's are even better than Spartan II's.

  • 05.31.2011 10:39 PM PDT

Oh hey there

Posted by: petarded2
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Posted by: GingerBenj
books suck, reading is lame.

games rock, games are...game?

bungie created halo and its story, eric nylund didnt.

id say about 60% of the reach gamers have heard of the books but not necessarily read them. ultimately they dont care.

99.9% of the xbox live community is unable to read because they are to young.

therefor bungie have the right to make a kick ass game that screws a few of the books ideas.

problem solved :)
My God what is happening to the Universe.


I'm going to assume by the lack of edit in the OP no one has come up with any more compelling reasons to believe that there are not glaring errors in Reach's canon since the last time I participated in the discussion in this thread. Reasons of course that weren't thought of and shot down within the first couple months of this debate starting.

Would I be correct in assuming that? I don't feel like flicking through 90+ pages of mostly the same incorrect arguments that say Reach did not break canon.

  • 05.31.2011 10:45 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan1065
Posted by: GingerBenj
books suck, reading is lame.

games rock, games are...game?

bungie created halo and its story, eric nylund didnt.

id say about 60% of the reach gamers have heard of the books but not necessarily read them. ultimately they dont care.

99.9% of the xbox live community is unable to read because they are to young.

therefor bungie have the right to make a kick ass game that screws a few of the books ideas.

problem solved :)
My God what is happening to the Universe.


I'm going to assume by the lack of edit in the OP no one has come up with any more compelling reasons to believe that there are not glaring errors in Reach's canon since the last time I participated in the discussion in this thread. Reasons of course that weren't thought of and shot down within the first couple months of this debate starting.

Would I be correct in assuming that? I don't feel like flicking through 90+ pages of mostly the same incorrect arguments that say Reach did not break canon.


People have brought up many valid points against or explaining most if not all of Caboose's so called errors.

And Reach did not break canon, and you shouldn't claim it did because none of us has seen the complete picture (aka the Halo Story Bible). Other than what Bungie or 343i tells us about canon we know nothing of what is true or not, and Bungie has said that Reach and TFoR match, now 343i may change things, but I very highly doubt that is going to happen, so like it or not Reach is canon and does not break canon.

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Posted by: Spartan1065
Posted by: GingerBenj
books suck, reading is lame.

games rock, games are...game?

bungie created halo and its story, eric nylund didnt.

id say about 60% of the reach gamers have heard of the books but not necessarily read them. ultimately they dont care.

99.9% of the xbox live community is unable to read because they are to young.

therefor bungie have the right to make a kick ass game that screws a few of the books ideas.

problem solved :)
My God what is happening to the Universe.


I'm going to assume by the lack of edit in the OP no one has come up with any more compelling reasons to believe that there are not glaring errors in Reach's canon since the last time I participated in the discussion in this thread. Reasons of course that weren't thought of and shot down within the first couple months of this debate starting.

Would I be correct in assuming that? I don't feel like flicking through 90+ pages of mostly the same incorrect arguments that say Reach did not break canon.


People have brought up many valid points against or explaining most if not all of Caboose's so called errors.

And Reach did not break canon, and you shouldn't claim it did because none of us has seen the complete picture (aka the Halo Story Bible). Other than what Bungie or 343i tells us about canon we know nothing of what is true or not, and Bungie has said that Reach and TFoR match, now 343i may change things, but I very highly doubt that is going to happen, so like it or not Reach is canon and does not break canon.


Sorry to burst your bubbles, but it did break the canon :) It conflicts the Fall of Reach, First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx.

As I have been reading arguments bought up by those few people like you have been defending Halo: Reach so fiercely, is basic same argument as before in early pages of this topic to now.

And, I understand that some valid points has been proved but it has little effect to none to the errors in the canon of Reach. I am sorry but there is many, probably majority of people at bungie.net seem to disagree with you and those guys. (general assumption)

[Edited on 06.01.2011 11:39 AM PDT]

  • 06.01.2011 11:38 AM PDT

Conflict does not = break...

  • 06.01.2011 12:02 PM PDT

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Ghosts Of Onyx conflicts with The Fall Of Reach, does that means it breaks canon as well?

  • 06.01.2011 12:05 PM PDT

Reach only really conflicts TFoR, First strike only with the PoA and GoO has no problems from what I can say

  • 06.01.2011 12:08 PM PDT

Oh hey there

Posted by: petarded2
It's a metaphor for the 07s' lack of identity. too old to be newfa­g, yet too new to be oldfa­g, we wander b.net in search of a home, forever trying to be something we are not.

I have played Halo Reach. I have read the novels. I think that it has broken several things about the already established canon. I spent a while looking through the thread, I have seen your so called good arguments and I do not really buy any of them.

OrderedComa
I remember a long time ago a month or two after Reach was released you made a thread to counter this one about how Reach didn't break canon. We had a debate for a few pages and I distinctly remember shooting down all of your excuses. Just sayin.

[Edited on 06.01.2011 2:21 PM PDT]

  • 06.01.2011 2:17 PM PDT