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Posted by: privet caboose
It doesn't say majority. It says, specifically, "four-, five-, and six-year-old children."


That doesn't say there CAN'T be older children. He could have been talking about the majority, would you rather think, "Four-, five-, and six- year old" or "four-, five-, six-, seven-, eight-....eleven-"......See my point?

  • 10.13.2010 9:28 PM PDT


Posted by: KillerDie666
1. you have no proof so its still up fo debate....happy with that one?


Posted by: privet caboose
It doesn't say majority. It says, specifically, "four-, five-, and six-year-old children."

Except I was right from the start....happy with that one?


2.If you evolve on a planet you don't think that you don't have to defend yourself from ALL directions...so unless you evolved in space, you should still have the same psychological block when working in space or defending your planet.

So, by your logic, they should have MACs all around the planet. Which is what you're arguing against.


3. Protecting Human lives isn't cosidered important. Plus who's to say that the military didn't have more of a claim to that side to protect. How did the Corvettes get past? They just did they were on the surface too.

You were just arguing that the most heavily populated side would be the most protected. Now you're saying the opposite.
How did the Corvettes get past? They just did
Excellent theory. Any other startling insights to offer?


as for the debris, if you play the multiplayer level Corvette ad look out the hangar doors or if you play the Sabre level and look off into the distance, you will see it.

No evidence, so apparently you are incorrect until you provide it for me. Link plz.


4. Watch the final cutscene from Tip of the Spear it is directly over the frigate that destroys the spire. inside the MAC guns protective bubble.

MACs don't have protective bubbles.
That's not on the surface.

  • 10.13.2010 9:33 PM PDT


Posted by: KillerDie666

Posted by: privet caboose
It doesn't say majority. It says, specifically, "four-, five-, and six-year-old children."


That doesn't say there CAN'T be older children. He could have been talking about the majority, would you rather think, "Four-, five-, and six- year old" or "four-, five-, six-, seven-, eight-....eleven-"......See my point?

Yes, it does mean there can't be. Read the novels.
And obviously he wasn't talking about the majority because the word wasn't used.

Stop speculating. Kthx.

  • 10.13.2010 9:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: KillerDie666
1. you have no proof so its still up fo debate....happy with that one?


Posted by: privet caboose
It doesn't say majority. It says, specifically, "four-, five-, and six-year-old children."

Except I was right from the start....happy with that one?


2.If you evolve on a planet you don't think that you don't have to defend yourself from ALL directions...so unless you evolved in space, you should still have the same psychological block when working in space or defending your planet.

So, by your logic, they should have MACs all around the planet. Which is what you're arguing against.


3. Protecting Human lives isn't cosidered important. Plus who's to say that the military didn't have more of a claim to that side to protect. How did the Corvettes get past? They just did they were on the surface too.

You were just arguing that the most heavily populated side would be the most protected. Now you're saying the opposite.
How did the Corvettes get past? They just did
Excellent theory. Any other startling insights to offer?


as for the debris, if you play the multiplayer level Corvette ad look out the hangar doors or if you play the Sabre level and look off into the distance, you will see it.

No evidence, so apparently you are incorrect until you provide it for me. Link plz.


4. Watch the final cutscene from Tip of the Spear it is directly over the frigate that destroys the spire. inside the MAC guns protective bubble.

MACs don't have protective bubbles.
That's not on the surface.


No you weren't right from the start there is still no age REQUIREMENT proof at all.

I'm talking psychology when I'm talking about defending a planet and that it is impossible to defend a planet from all directions.

I'm still arguing that the most heavily populated is being defended and I did not state otherwise.

The proof is in the game so stop saying I have no proof when I just told you where to find it.

I meant the protective bubble that the MAC guns create while protecting the planet, its not an actual bubble it is the places around the planet that the MAC guns can create to protect the planet.

[Edited on 10.13.2010 10:02 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 9:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: KillerDie666

Posted by: privet caboose
It doesn't say majority. It says, specifically, "four-, five-, and six-year-old children."


That doesn't say there CAN'T be older children. He could have been talking about the majority, would you rather think, "Four-, five-, and six- year old" or "four-, five-, six-, seven-, eight-....eleven-"......See my point?

Yes, it does mean there can't be. Read the novels.
And obviously he wasn't talking about the majority because the word wasn't used.

Stop speculating. Kthx.


There is still no proof that there CAN'T be older children so untill you have proof stop speculating.

  • 10.13.2010 9:43 PM PDT


Posted by: KillerDie666
No you weren't right from the start there is still no age REQUIREMENT proof at all.

So the fact that it says in TFoR that Spartans needed to be 6 or under, and the fact all S-IIs and S-IIIs were 6 or under is less proof of them needing to be 6 or under than your claim that HEY THEY CAN BE OLDER JUST CUZ.


I'm talking psychology when I'm talking about defending a planet and that it is impossible to defend a planet from all directions.

Except you just argued that they would try to defend a planet from all sides, since they evolved on a planet. You're very contradictory. Psychology has nothing to do with interplanetary defense.


I'm still arguing that the most heavily populated is being defended and I did not state otherwise.

You said protecting human lives wasn't important. More contradictions.


The proof is in the game so stop saying I have no proof when I just told you where to find it.

The proof is in the books so stop saying I have no proof when I just told you where to find it.


I meant the protective bubble that the MAC guns have while protecting the planet, its not an actual bubble it is the places it is a bubble around the planet that the MAC guns can create to protect the planet.

So you're saying it's not an actual bubble but a bubble around the planet MAC guns can create in order to protect the planet. A little confusing logic there.

  • 10.13.2010 9:56 PM PDT


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Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: KillerDie666

Posted by: privet caboose
It doesn't say majority. It says, specifically, "four-, five-, and six-year-old children."


That doesn't say there CAN'T be older children. He could have been talking about the majority, would you rather think, "Four-, five-, and six- year old" or "four-, five-, six-, seven-, eight-....eleven-"......See my point?

Yes, it does mean there can't be. Read the novels.
And obviously he wasn't talking about the majority because the word wasn't used.

Stop speculating. Kthx.


There is still no proof that there CAN'T be older children so untill you have proof stop speculating.

And you have no proof that Jorge did/did not die, that Noble 6 did/did not die, that Noble 6 is/is not a woman disguise, etc.

You're just as bad as the people you QQ about in the Halo Reach forum.

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The fall of reach is talking about Spartan 2's not 3's..I have proof also, my proof is Carter was eleven when he bagan training...there is still absolutely no proof of an age requirement.

Wow...can you possible protect every square inch of a planet with MAC guns...no. thats what im saying.

I never said protecting human lives wasn't important, stop putting words in my mouth.

I'm talking about the protective sphere that the MAC guns create to stop people from attacking the planet...draw a circle to represent the planet Reach, then draw a circle around that, thats the protective sphere/bubble that is created.

I have given you many facts with much proof maybe if you wouldn't contradict me and actually listened or actually played reach, or knew the difference between Spartan 2's and 3's you would understand but idk if you're capable.

  • 10.13.2010 10:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: KillerDie666

Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: KillerDie666

Posted by: privet caboose
It doesn't say majority. It says, specifically, "four-, five-, and six-year-old children."


That doesn't say there CAN'T be older children. He could have been talking about the majority, would you rather think, "Four-, five-, and six- year old" or "four-, five-, six-, seven-, eight-....eleven-"......See my point?

Yes, it does mean there can't be. Read the novels.
And obviously he wasn't talking about the majority because the word wasn't used.

Stop speculating. Kthx.


There is still no proof that there CAN'T be older children so untill you have proof stop speculating.

And you have no proof that Jorge did/did not die, that Noble 6 did/did not die, that Noble 6 is/is not a woman disguise, etc.

You're just as bad as the people you QQ about in the Halo Reach forum.


No one has proof that jorge lived or died...Noble six died Halsey said so at the end of Reach though i still doubt u played it...Noble six can be a man or a women so that really makes no sense.

  • 10.13.2010 10:26 PM PDT


Posted by: KillerDie666
The fall of reach is talking about Spartan 2's not 3's..I have proof also, my proof is Carter was eleven when he bagan training...there is still absolutely no proof of an age requirement.

You have no proof that it doesn't apply to S-IIIs.
Carter was in Cryo for 5 years of time before joining the S-III program.


Wow...can you possible protect every square inch of a planet with MAC guns...no. thats what im saying.

Actually, you probably could if you spread it out. You're also forgetting the fleet of 100-150 ships around Reach at all times.


I never said protecting human lives wasn't important, stop putting words in my mouth.

Posted by: KillerDie666
3. Protecting Human lives isn't cosidered important. Plus who's to say that the military didn't have more of a claim to that side to protect. How did the Corvettes get past? They just did they were on the surface too.

Pg. 25


I'm talking about the protective sphere that the MAC guns create to stop people from attacking the planet...draw a circle to represent the planet Reach, then draw a circle around that, thats the protective sphere/bubble that is created.

MAC cannons are capable of no such thing.


I have given you many facts with much proof maybe if you wouldn't contradict me and actually listened or actually played reach, or knew the difference between Spartan 2's and 3's you would understand but idk if you're capable.

The only fact you have given is Carter's age and have provided no proof other than "look for yourself."

If you listened or actually played reach, or knew the similarities between Spartan-IIs and Spartan-IIIs you would understand but idk if you're capable. If you read any Halo material and were able to formulate an argument without contradicting yourself, maybe you would be able to understand but idk if you're capable.

  • 10.13.2010 10:27 PM PDT


Posted by: KillerDie666

No one has proof that jorge lived or died...Noble six died Halsey said so at the end of Reach though i still doubt u played it...Noble six can be a man or a women so that really makes no sense.

Halsey never says specifically that he died.
And pardon, you don't know if Emile is actually a man or not. He could just be using a voice translator.

Your argument and points mirror the arguments and points people in the Reach forum make that you QQ about.

  • 10.13.2010 10:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: KillerDie666
The fall of reach is talking about Spartan 2's not 3's..I have proof also, my proof is Carter was eleven when he bagan training...there is still absolutely no proof of an age requirement.

You have no proof that it doesn't apply to S-IIIs.
Carter was in Cryo for 5 years of time before joining the S-III program.


Wow...can you possible protect every square inch of a planet with MAC guns...no. thats what im saying.

Actually, you probably could if you spread it out. You're also forgetting the fleet of 100-150 ships around Reach at all times.


I never said protecting human lives wasn't important, stop putting words in my mouth.

Posted by: KillerDie666
3. Protecting Human lives isn't cosidered important. Plus who's to say that the military didn't have more of a claim to that side to protect. How did the Corvettes get past? They just did they were on the surface too.

Pg. 25


I'm talking about the protective sphere that the MAC guns create to stop people from attacking the planet...draw a circle to represent the planet Reach, then draw a circle around that, thats the protective sphere/bubble that is created.

MAC cannons are capable of no such thing.


I have given you many facts with much proof maybe if you wouldn't contradict me and actually listened or actually played reach, or knew the difference between Spartan 2's and 3's you would understand but idk if you're capable.

The only fact you have given is Carter's age and have provided no proof other than "look for yourself."

If you listened or actually played reach, or knew the similarities between Spartan-IIs and Spartan-IIIs you would understand but idk if you're capable. If you read any Halo material and were able to formulate an argument without contradicting yourself, maybe you would be able to understand but idk if you're capable.


the page 25 thing i posted was a typo so you can drop that.

Considering the fleet and all the MAC guns in halo the fall of reach were destroyed, and since the fleet was grouped together it is likely to assume that they were on one side of the planet.

I just told you what i meant with the sphere n how i meant it and how to prove it...again you didn't listen. your wrong if you say its impossible thats a fact.

I now concede the point about the age, you were pissing me off so i kept going on that one i didn't know about the cryo thing.

But that doesn't change the fact that he was 11 thats what i was saying.

  • 10.13.2010 10:33 PM PDT


Posted by: KillerDie666
Considering the fleet and all the MAC guns in halo the fall of reach were destroyed, and since the fleet was grouped together it is likely to assume that they were on one side of the planet.
It's only stated a Quarter of the platforms are destroyed. The rest are disabled with generators going offline.
Also, if you're going to say that they were all clustered on one side, and the Supercarrier/Corvette went on the other side, you should provide the evidence to support that.


I just told you what i meant with the sphere n how i meant it and how to prove it...again you didn't listen. your wrong if you say its impossible thats a fact.

MAC platforms do not create bubbles that protect the planets from enemies. If you'd like to revise your statement with language that makes sense, by all means.


But that doesn't change the fact that he was 11 thats what i was saying.

No one ever denied that he was 11.

[Edited on 10.13.2010 10:41 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 10:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: KillerDie666
Considering the fleet and all the MAC guns in halo the fall of reach were destroyed, and since the fleet was grouped together it is likely to assume that they were on one side of the planet.
It's only stated a Quarter of the platforms are destroyed. The rest are disabled with generators going offline.
Also, if you're going to say that they were all clustered on one side, and the Supercarrier/Corvette went on the other side, you should provide the evidence to support that.


I just told you what i meant with the sphere n how i meant it and how to prove it...again you didn't listen. your wrong if you say its impossible thats a fact.

MAC platforms do not create bubbles that protect the planets from enemies. If you'd like to revise your statement with language that makes sense, by all means.


But that doesn't change the fact that he was 11 thats what i was saying.

No one ever denied that he was 11.


They were clustered around a 2kilometer area on one side of the planet...my proof is they used 2 refit and repair platforms to protect themselves from the covenants opening salvo.

You said that they had to be four five or six...yes you did

to further elaborate on my sphere of protection, heres a picture...hereThink of the planet as Reach, the circle is the protection that the MAC guns offer, ITS NOT A REAL BUBBLE IVE ALREADY SAID THAT....the Supercarrier and the corvettes were within that circle and on the planet in Tip of the Spear.

[Edited on 10.13.2010 10:52 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 10:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ageless Durandal
One of the Halo: Evolutions stories state that in every company of S-III, they pull some of them out right before primary deployment to be a part of "Headhunter" teams.
It's possible Kurt pulled more of them out for other things before Pegasi.

Source on site: Here. (Although, they say that they rarely get to pull S-III's right after training, in the book they say they do it pretty often. Probably due to Ackerson wanting more "special" Spartans on his own.)

Also, you do realize that the books are "optional" canon and are over-ridden by the game canon, right?


The official games are more important then official books or whatever you guys are reading.

  • 10.13.2010 10:47 PM PDT


Posted by: KillerDie666
They were clustered around a 2kilometer area on one side of the planet...my proof is they used 2 refit and repair platforms to protect themselves from the covenants opening salvo.

They used 3. That doesn't mean it covered every SMAC, all it means is that the salvo was mostly absorbed by a 3km long blockade.
The initial salvo of plasma torpedoes was mostly absorbed by three sacrificial refit and repair stations


You said that they had to be four five or six...yes you did

Yes, which they were. If Carter spent 5 years in Cryo he would be 6 years old in normal time.


to further elaborate on my sphere of protection, heres a picture...Think of the planet as Reach, the circle is the protection that the MAC guns offer, ITS NOT A REAL BUBBLE IVE ALREADY SAID THAT....the Supercarrier and the corvettes were within that circle and on the planet in Tip of the Spear.

We've already seen that MACs can hit through the atmosphere(See: Sword Base, where the ODP destroys a Corvette).
So obviously, they weren't safe. Also, the Supercarrier was never on the surface. Additionally, ODPs couldn't fire on Covenant vessels because they would pinpoint jump right next to the ODPs, not below them.

  • 10.13.2010 10:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: KillerDie666
They were clustered around a 2kilometer area on one side of the planet...my proof is they used 2 refit and repair platforms to protect themselves from the covenants opening salvo.

They used 3. That doesn't mean it covered every SMAC, all it means is that the salvo was mostly absorbed by a 3km long blockade.
The initial salvo of plasma torpedoes was mostly absorbed by three sacrificial refit and repair stations


You said that they had to be four five or six...yes you did

Yes, which they were. If Carter spent 5 years in Cryo he would be 6 years old in normal time.


to further elaborate on my sphere of protection, heres a picture...Think of the planet as Reach, the circle is the protection that the MAC guns offer, ITS NOT A REAL BUBBLE IVE ALREADY SAID THAT....the Supercarrier and the corvettes were within that circle and on the planet in Tip of the Spear.

We've already seen that MACs can hit through the atmosphere(See: Sword Base, where the ODP destroys a Corvette).
So obviously, they weren't safe. Also, the Supercarrier was never on the surface. Additionally, ODPs couldn't fire on Covenant vessels because they would pinpoint jump right next to the ODPs, not below them.


I didnt say it covered every MAC I meant it covered the fleet. meaning one side of the planet.

He is biologically 6 he is still eleven.


I never said they couldn't shoot through the atmosphere...I know they can....Im saying they create that sphere around the planet to defend it. THE SUPERCARRIER WAS ON THE SURFACE...SO WAS MANY CORVETTES IF YOU WOULD BOTHER TO PLAY TIP OF THE SPEAR AND NIGHTFALL YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY WOULD RATHER SAY THEY WERENT AND FRUSTRATE ME, they were on the surface, the Supercarrier destroyed a frigate which was right under it on the surface,there were corvettes on the levels Exodus, tip of the spear, nightfall...i don't know why you cant understand that.

[Edited on 10.13.2010 11:05 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 11:01 PM PDT


Posted by: KillerDie666
I didnt say it covered every MAC I meant it covered the fleet. meaning one side of the planet.

So, can you prove that the Supercarrier and Corvette were on the unprotected side of the planet?


He is biologically 6 he is still eleven.

Which means he perfectly fits the criteria for the S-III program, and is not older


I never said they couldn't shoot throug the atmosphere...I know they can....Im saying they creat that sphere around the planet to defend it. THE SUPERCARRIER WAS ON THE SURFACE...SO WAS MANY CORVETTES IF YOU WOULD BOTHER TO PLAY TIP OF THE SPEAR AND NIGHTFALL YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY WOULD RATHER SAY THEY WERENT AND FRUSTRATE ME

The supercarrier is never on the surface of Reach. If they created this "sphere", as you say, and they can fire through the atmosphere, then they would've been able to hit the Supercarrier.
they were on the surface, the Supercarrier destroyed a frigate which was right under it on the surface
So if the supercarrier was on the surface, how can it destroy a frigate which was on the surface right underneath it?

,there were corvettes on the levels Exodus, tip of the spear, nightfall...i don't know why you cant understand that.
I never said there weren't Corvettes on those levels.

[Edited on 10.13.2010 11:07 PM PDT]

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Posted by: KillerDie666
They were clustered around a 2kilometer area on one side of the planet...my proof is they used 2 refit and repair platforms to protect themselves from the covenants opening salvo.

They used 3. That doesn't mean it covered every SMAC, all it means is that the salvo was mostly absorbed by a 3km long blockade.
The initial salvo of plasma torpedoes was mostly absorbed by three sacrificial refit and repair stations


You said that they had to be four five or six...yes you did

Yes, which they were. If Carter spent 5 years in Cryo he would be 6 years old in normal time.


to further elaborate on my sphere of protection, heres a picture...Think of the planet as Reach, the circle is the protection that the MAC guns offer, ITS NOT A REAL BUBBLE IVE ALREADY SAID THAT....the Supercarrier and the corvettes were within that circle and on the planet in Tip of the Spear.

We've already seen that MACs can hit through the atmosphere(See: Sword Base, where the ODP destroys a Corvette).
So obviously, they weren't safe. Also, the Supercarrier was never on the surface. Additionally, ODPs couldn't fire on Covenant vessels because they would pinpoint jump right next to the ODPs, not below them.


I didnt say it covered every MAC I meant it covered the fleet. meaning one side of the planet.

He is biologically 6 he is still eleven.


I never said they couldn't shoot throug the atmosphere...I know they can....Im saying they creat that sphere around the planet to defend it. THE SUPERCARRIER WAS ON THE SURFACE...SO WAS MANY CORVETTES IF YOU WOULD BOTHER TO PLAY TIP OF THE SPEAR AND NIGHTFALL YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY WOULD RATHER SAY THEY WERENT AND FRUSTRATE ME, they were on the surface, the Supercarrier destroyed a frigate which was right under it on the surface,there were corvettes on the levels Exodus, tip of the spear, nightfall...i don't know why you cant understand that.
That's like saying that if someone 20 years old was cryogenically preserved this year, and was thawed in 50 years, we should treat them like a 70 year old, and they require, for example, aid with moving [bad argument]. For the purposes of the SPARTAN programme (the augmentations), biological age is what matters - if they were too close to puberty during augmentation, the augmentations would cripple them.

The Supercarrier is 27km long, and carried the Corvettes with it. If you look at the cutscene of the Corvette docking with the Supercarrier, and compare that with the rest of the ship, it must be able to hold around a dozen corvettes.
As such, when you see it in Tip of the Spear, it looks so close to the ground because of scale. It's more than 60x the length of the Grafton which it destroys.

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Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: KillerDie666
I didnt say it covered every MAC I meant it covered the fleet. meaning one side of the planet.

So, can you prove that the Supercarrier and Corvette were on the unprotected side of the planet?


He is biologically 6 he is still eleven.

Which means he perfectly fits the criteria for the S-III program, and is not older


I never said they couldn't shoot throug the atmosphere...I know they can....Im saying they creat that sphere around the planet to defend it. THE SUPERCARRIER WAS ON THE SURFACE...SO WAS MANY CORVETTES IF YOU WOULD BOTHER TO PLAY TIP OF THE SPEAR AND NIGHTFALL YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY WOULD RATHER SAY THEY WERENT AND FRUSTRATE ME

The supercarrier is never on the surface of Reach. If they created this "sphere", as you say, and they can fire through the atmosphere, then they would've been able to hit the Supercarrier.
they were on the surface, the Supercarrier destroyed a frigate which was right under it on the surface
So if the supercarrier was on the surface, how can it destroy a frigate which was on the surface right underneath it?

,there were corvettes on the levels Exodus, tip of the spear, nightfall...i don't know why you cant understand that.
I never said there weren't Corvettes on those levels.


No, my GUESS is that the side the carrier was on was the less protected side. I never said it WAS.

He's still ELEVEN which means he is older than six which means they accept older children simple. as. that.

OK let me clarify something...when I say ON THE SURFACE i dont -blam!-ing mean its laying on the surface I mean it is on the -blam!-ing planet in atmosphere....do you understand now..do i have to draw you a -blam!-ing diagram to represent the planet and the ship....it was on the "surface". happy now?...it was still past the MAC guns.

Now I have just had a realization which I think will clear this up...the spires as said by auntie dot are linked to a teleportation network (Auntie Dot: "Noble Five, ONI believes those spires to be teleportation terminals." )....that is how the ships got to the "surface" of the planet. At the end of Tip of the Spear when the frigate destroys the one spire, the supercarrier destroys the frigate, how did they not see the frigate?it was cloaked,(Auntie Dot: "Latest intel suggests these spires may be projecting electro-magnetic cloaking shields.") Then after that level those ships entered orbit as seen in the next level, Long night of solace, where you fly the sabre...this means the ODP's probably did not have enough time to turn to fire on the Supercarrier which proceded to destroy the guns....it was a suprise attack from their unprotected side. This explains all of the debri in the Corvette and Sabre missions. ok?

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Posted by: KillerDie666

No my GUESS is that the side the carrier was on was the less protected side. I never said it WAS.

So can you provide evidence to support your guess? Which you've been arguing in favor of for quite a while now?

He's still ELEVEN which means he is older than six which means they accept older children simple. as. that.

Biological age counts for the augmentations, not "actual" age. Ergo, Carter still fits the criteria and is not older.


OK let me clarify something...when I say ON THE SURFACE i dont -blam!-ing mean its laying on the surface I mean it is on the -blam!-ing planet in atmosphere....do you understand now..do i have to draw you a -blam!-ing diagram to represent the planet and the ship....it was on the "surface". happy now?...it was still past the MAC guns.

Oh, I'm glad to see you finally picked up on your misuse of language. I was wondering when you'd figure that out.

Just because they were past the MAC guns doesn't mean anything(See: Sword Base Corvette)


Now I have just had a realization which I think will clear this up...the spires as said by auntie dot are linked to a teleportation network....that is how the ships got to the "surface" of the planet.

Covenant don't have teleportation technology that potent. The teleportation is likely to transport troops and supplies to the surface from orbit since no gravlifts are present in the cutscenes.

At the end of Tip of the Spear when the frigate destroys the one spire, the supercarrier destroys the frigate. Then after that level those ships entered orbit as seen in the next level where you fly the sabre...this means the ODP's probably did not have enough time to turn to fire on the Supercarrier which proceded to destroy the guns....it was a suprise attack from their unprotected side. This explains all of the debri in the Corvette and Sabre missions. ok?
How does the Supercarrier get there in the first place?
(Assuming we don't handwave that the Covenant magically got Supercarrier teleporting technology and forgot about it for the rest of the war.)

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Posted by: Monkeyboy1993
Can't we just admit that the canon is just a little screwy?


The only thing Bungie changed is the length of the battle and the fact that the pillar of autumn landed on reach after picking up the master chief....everything else can be explained and combined neatly with the already established canon. Some people just don't want to see that.

  • 10.13.2010 11:33 PM PDT
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No my GUESS is that the side the carrier was on was the less protected side. I never said it WAS.

So can you provide evidence to support your guess? Which you've been arguing in favor of for quite a while now?

He's still ELEVEN which means he is older than six which means they accept older children simple. as. that.

Biological age counts for the augmentations, not "actual" age. Ergo, Carter still fits the criteria and is not older.


OK let me clarify something...when I say ON THE SURFACE i dont -blam!-ing mean its laying on the surface I mean it is on the -blam!-ing planet in atmosphere....do you understand now..do i have to draw you a -blam!-ing diagram to represent the planet and the ship....it was on the "surface". happy now?...it was still past the MAC guns.

Oh, I'm glad to see you finally picked up on your misuse of language. I was wondering when you'd figure that out.

Just because they were past the MAC guns doesn't mean anything(See: Sword Base Corvette)


Now I have just had a realization which I think will clear this up...the spires as said by auntie dot are linked to a teleportation network....that is how the ships got to the "surface" of the planet.

Covenant don't have teleportation technology that potent. The teleportation is likely to transport troops and supplies to the surface from orbit since no gravlifts are present in the cutscenes.

At the end of Tip of the Spear when the frigate destroys the one spire, the supercarrier destroys the frigate. Then after that level those ships entered orbit as seen in the next level where you fly the sabre...this means the ODP's probably did not have enough time to turn to fire on the Supercarrier which proceded to destroy the guns....it was a suprise attack from their unprotected side. This explains all of the debri in the Corvette and Sabre missions. ok?
How does the Supercarrier get there in the first place?
(Assuming we don't handwave that the Covenant magically got Supercarrier teleporting technology and forgot about it for the rest of the war.)


Evidence to support my guess is common sense...there's no fleet on this side so obviously its on the other side.

Carter is still 11.

I'm sorry I thought you would realise that when i say surface i didnt mean it was freaking parked.

I also updated my post...here I'll repost auntie dots quotes

Auntie Dot: "Latest intel suggests these spires may be projecting electro-magnetic cloaking shields."

thats how the supercarrier was cloaked.

Auntie Dot: "Noble Five, ONI believes those spires to be teleportation terminals."

Thats how most of the ships got to the surface, especially the Supercarrier. Obviously it requires a remote destination and spires to be built to work thats why it wasn't used a lot and why you havent heard about it before.

any other typos i have that give you reason to say I'm wrong when all the facts point to my logic?

  • 10.13.2010 11:39 PM PDT


Posted by: KillerDie666

Posted by: Monkeyboy1993
Can't we just admit that the canon is just a little screwy?


The only thing Bungie changed is the length of the battle and the fact that the pillar of autumn landed on reach after picking up the master chief....everything else can be explained and combined neatly with the already established canon. Some people just don't want to see that.

Not true. Halopedia just doesn't list the inconsistencies. They conveniently snip everything they don't like in order to make it look nice.

  • 10.13.2010 11:41 PM PDT