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Posted by: KillerDie666
Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Posted by: KillerDie666
Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Posted by: KillerDie666
Why can't his training excersise fit in??...nothing contradicts it.
Halsey could have met with the spartans before or after the ONI Sword base level.
Again nothing says that Red team couldn't have dropped to the planet.
Nothing contradicts its so it all lines up.
You haven't read Halsey's Journal have you?
Sword Base happens July 26.
Sword Base is assaulted with Halsey and most of the staff presumed dead on August 14 (Long Night of Solace). Operation Red Flag's briefing takes place on the 27th of August at a location that is likely not Sword Base seeing as it is occupied by the Covenant at this point for on August 26th Noble Team is assigned the demo op of Sword Base and Jun makes his comment of how Covenant "own [Sword Base] now".
No known Spartan IIs (other than Jorge) were killed by the time this briefing occurred. The planet's orbital defense has been long since compromised at this point. While it's likely that Red team died/fled to Castle Base defending the Autumn from ground forces (read up on my theory earlier in this thread) there is zero factual evidence to indicate exactly what they were doing at this time.
29th is when John's exercise with Cortana takes place. Guess what? It's also the same day Noble Team pays Halsey a visit in Sword Base. Not to mention given the current state of Reach it is incredulous to believe that Ackerson (as much of an ass he is) would waste valuable military resources in an attempt to upstage Halsey's Spartans.
So yes, there are several contradictions that have spawned out of mere common logic. There is no common logic presented however to actually make sense with how these events go along smoothly with Halo:Reach.
They changed the timeline...I said this, so they changed dates of events as well..it can all be made to fit in....as for the autumn whos to say it wasn't in space like in the fall of reach and then it dropped off red team and the chief n linda...then picked up the chief linda and johnson and landed on the planet to get the fragment and then left? IT ALL CAN FIT. Eveyone just wants to make it difficult when it is simple.
...Did you not read a single word I said? The fact dates have been changed is of incredible significance.
August 27th. ALL Spartan IIs (this includes Red Team, Linda, Chief, every Spartan in the original novel that was included in the briefing then) were present and accounted for planetside for a briefing with Halsey along with Captain Keyes. John is still undergoing his exercises on the 29th with Cortana. The Autumn is still on the ground waiting to take off on the 30th.
So please. With your sound reasoning why don't you care to explain how the Autumn can be in space, drop off red team on the planet, pick up chief, johnson, and linda in space, land on the planet and dock itself and run a shakedown run with Cortana while picking up the other Cortana fragment over the course of a single day? Please go right ahead.
The Chief and in effect the Autumn don't receive the full version of Cortana until the 29th so go and explain how all these events fit in a single day when it already is iffy in a four day span.
THEY CHANGED THE DATESSSSSS......THE FALL OF REACH DATES DON'T COUNT ANYMORE, is that clear enough, they changed the timeline not everything has a set date anymore, but it can all be fit in.
The Autumn was in space, it went to leave, Reach was attacked by a major covenant fleet, it went back it dropped off red team and the chief and linda, then it picked up linda and the chief and landed on reach to pick up the cortana fragment....then it left reach to go to Halo. that is it, it all fits.
Then show me the new timeline that says it fits in. I certainly don't see it anywhere.
Here, let me give you 24 hours worth of time:
-I want you to drive from Los Angeles, California all the way to the state line of Utah.
-Then I want you to go snowboarding for the day
-Now, I want you to go eat dinner for a few hours at a nice restaurant
-Now, you drive home to Los Angeles, but you need to stop in Redlands, California to go see the Redwood National Forest for 2 and a half hours
-Then, you make it home to Los Angeles
Trust me, you can totally do it in 24 hours. I said so.
See the analogy?