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Subject: (Spoilers) Secret Collectibles/Killables/Pushables (Spoilers)

So I just read through 28 pages of forum posts, and all I have to say is "wow". It's this sort of dedication to details that makes Bungie so much different from other developers, and more importantly, makes Halo fans so much different than fans of other games. I'm more than willing to help in any way I can, but I can't start until later tonite. I have a Calculus midterm exam, but after I finish taking it up the butt and rush back to my dorm, I'll be more than wiling to help find the solution to whatever the mystery of the hour is!

XBL: Drummuh Dude

EDIT: How perfect is it that I'm the first post on page 29 after saying that I've read through 28 pages?

[Edited on 09.22.2010 11:43 AM PDT]

  • 09.22.2010 11:42 AM PDT


Posted by: Churchie
Gonna do Lone Wolf for a while to see if I can find out whats causing the skull deaths.


let us know


Posted by: Drummuh Dude
So I just read through 28 pages of forum posts, and all I have to say is "wow". It's this sort of dedication to details that makes Bungie so much different from other developers, and more importantly, makes Halo fans so much different than fans of other games. I'm more than willing to help in any way I can, but I can't start until later tonite. I have a Calculus midterm exam, but after I finish taking it up the butt and rush back to my dorm, I'll be more than wiling to help find the solution to whatever the mystery of the hour is!

XBL: Drummuh Dude

EDIT: How perfect is it that I'm the first post on page 29 after saying that I've read through 28 pages?


Awesome - one more person added to the madness. I want to be the first to welcome you to not having a life... cus this is all i can think about now. Can't even work really. Anyway i also want to say there is no way these things have NO meaning at all. Bungie put them there on purpose... lets find out what our present is. Unwrap this present - so to speak.

Just to clarify - my wife thinks I've gone off te deep end, my daughter doesn't know me anymore and my coworkers think I am on drugs. Halo is great!

[Edited on 09.22.2010 12:03 PM PDT]

  • 09.22.2010 11:55 AM PDT
Subject: (Spoilers) Secret Collectables/Killables/Pushables (Spoilers)

I was thinking about this the other day while playing, Reach is sooo huge, and there are tons of places in levels you're not supposed to get to. It's like a breeding ground for possible easter eggs. Which happen to be my favorite things about the Halo games up to this point.

  • 09.22.2010 12:31 PM PDT

Haha I wouldn't necessarily say that i'm another person added to the madness. I was reading this page between classes for a while, then finished when I got back to my dorm. And I've beaten every single Halo game ever (including Halo Wars) on legendary by myself. I haven't taken on Reach's campaign solo yet just cuz I'm usin my buddy's 360 and we usually end up playing split screen. But rest assured, I will get to the bottom of this riddle!

  • 09.22.2010 12:46 PM PDT


Posted by: Drummuh Dude
Haha I wouldn't necessarily say that i'm another person added to the madness. I was reading this page between classes for a while, then finished when I got back to my dorm. And I've beaten every single Halo game ever (including Halo Wars) on legendary by myself. I haven't taken on Reach's campaign solo yet just cuz I'm usin my buddy's 360 and we usually end up playing split screen. But rest assured, I will get to the bottom of this riddle!


I just meant the madness of these secrets and this thread

  • 09.22.2010 1:03 PM PDT


Posted by: ThadJarvice

Posted by: Drummuh Dude
Haha I wouldn't necessarily say that i'm another person added to the madness. I was reading this page between classes for a while, then finished when I got back to my dorm. And I've beaten every single Halo game ever (including Halo Wars) on legendary by myself. I haven't taken on Reach's campaign solo yet just cuz I'm usin my buddy's 360 and we usually end up playing split screen. But rest assured, I will get to the bottom of this riddle!


I just meant the madness of these secrets and this thread

I know what you meant, I just chose to take it in a different manner haha.

  • 09.22.2010 1:10 PM PDT

Spartan XL_Malice_LX reporting for duty. Read through the whole thread and its all i can think about now too. Too many secrets not to have a payoff. I'm in, and will begin searching.

  • 09.22.2010 1:52 PM PDT

I found a BOB at the beggining of nightfall. at the first Big attack scene. after the assassinations of a elite and 2 grunts, i seen him run away.

so do i :)

  • 09.22.2010 2:15 PM PDT
Subject: (Spoilers) Secret Collectibles/Killables/Pushables (Spoilers)

FPS Mattmatt i think thats the switch for the easter egg reach racer

  • 09.22.2010 2:18 PM PDT

I feel that this thread is no longer moving forward, but more in a twisted circle, I have found out the ?? classified deaths are for crashing in the space mission, but I feel that we can start moving forward if we had more people look through the thread before posting to see if what they found has already been discovered. Next has anyone looked through the buildings that you can land on in "New Alexandria" (Not entirely sure if I spelt it right but you should know which mission it is) that mission is probably the one we need several expeditions on just because it is easy to over look areas on that.

  • 09.22.2010 2:30 PM PDT

Many people are (butt)faces. They prove it by spewing crap from their mouths.

I've killed 6 bobs, I think. I don't remember where, though.

  • 09.22.2010 2:42 PM PDT

I will probably offend you


Posted by: Vincent K
Found a Bob on Nightfall on Legendary that wasn't listed. I made a clip and rendered it.


Well. You confirmed that some of them can be assassinated. I thought they couldn't. Nice work.

  • 09.22.2010 2:43 PM PDT

BRYCE
Are you going to play with Boo again?

Beat.

BRYCE
You son of a -blam!-.


Posted by: iIIidon
I feel that this thread is no longer moving forward, but more in a twisted circle, I have found out the ?? classified deaths are for crashing in the space mission, but I feel that we can start moving forward if we had more people look through the thread before posting to see if what they found has already been discovered. Next has anyone looked through the buildings that you can land on in "New Alexandria" (Not entirely sure if I spelt it right but you should know which mission it is) that mission is probably the one we need several expeditions on just because it is easy to over look areas on that.


There is progress, it's just difficult to find it all. I'm very invested in the Skull Kills/Deaths in campaign. Even if those turn out to not be any significant secret, we don't know how it works, so it needs investigation.

I was thinking about this in class today, and I think I have a proposal as to what the skulls mean.

Now the "?" kill says its kills by the guardians. Strangely I have 17 KILLS with the "?" and only 1 death, so I'm not sure what is defined by a guardian kill. There's even the "??" classified section for really unexplained things.
But more importantly, the weapon with the picture of the skull says "Classified" and the description reads "Everybody has secrets". If the skull kills were simply strange, unexplained, or freak accident kills, they could easily fall under the "??" category, or the "Collision Damage" or "Explosion" category. But there is this other, very specific category with no real definable purpose.


Because of the description, I think its based around enemy secrets. We know that you get a skull KILL if you take down the invisible elite with the data pad. That enemy had a secret, and you got it by killing him. We've also had skull DEATHS, so far unexplained.

I think that you get a skull kill if you kill an enemy with a secret, and you get a skull death if you get killed BY an enemy with a secret. It could be a system Bungie put in there to help us find these abstract secrets.

If this is the case, we've had 3 confirmed skull DEATHS on Lone Wolf, and if the same enemy is killing us every time, he could possess some sort of secret. If we can find the enemy causing the skull deaths, we could investigate. Another good idea would be to see if you can get the invisible elite to kill you and thus get a skull DEATH. Though I don't know if he attacks at all.

I can also confirm the fake Bob at the beginning of ONI Sword Base does not contribute towards skull deaths or kills, and he doesn't contain any sort of secret.

So ultimately, I would suggest everyone check your online stats, find the level you got a skull death/kill on, and lets see if we can confirm what causes them.

[Edited on 09.22.2010 3:06 PM PDT]

  • 09.22.2010 3:00 PM PDT

I am going to go through new Alexandria if anyone wants to help... Not sure when yet ... Working mon- Friday 8-6:30

  • 09.22.2010 3:00 PM PDT

BRYCE
Are you going to play with Boo again?

Beat.

BRYCE
You son of a -blam!-.

Also, if we need to clean up all this info and make it easier to sort, I would definitely be down for making a group. We can have separate forum posts for Bobs, Data Pads, buttons, and skulls. OP, if you want to make one just let us know. Or we can form one otherwise.

I have to give bungie some credit with this skull kill/death thing. Because even though we're not trying to find the actual skulls in game, this is yet another halo game where we technically get to hunt for "skulls" =]

  • 09.22.2010 3:04 PM PDT

A hero need not speak, for when he is gone the world will speak for him.

i though ? was guardians and ?? is unknown(though now known apparently as spaceship crashes)

edit: which cant be true, I have a kill by ?? on the tenth mission(forget the name but not lone wolves) and none in the space mission.

[Edited on 09.22.2010 3:14 PM PDT]

  • 09.22.2010 3:09 PM PDT

I will probably offend you


Posted by: Th3 Quester
Also, if we need to clean up all this info and make it easier to sort, I would definitely be down for making a group. We can have separate forum posts for Bobs, Data Pads, buttons, and skulls. OP, if you want to make one just let us know. Or we can form one otherwise.

I have to give bungie some credit with this skull kill/death thing. Because even though we're not trying to find the actual skulls in game, this is yet another halo game where we technically get to hunt for "skulls" =]


OP said he wouldn't be posting anymore, and left everything up to us.

Personally I think the Skull thing is just a waste of time. The Bobs and Switches are what is important.

And the switches for ONI base, for New Alexandria, and for the tribute room, all have their uses, and thus no longer matter towards our cause.

Our goal should be finding bobs, and other switches that have no purpose.

  • 09.22.2010 3:14 PM PDT

BRYCE
Are you going to play with Boo again?

Beat.

BRYCE
You son of a -blam!-.

I'm looking through some random people's stats to see where skull deaths/kills have happened. I'll try to post some for proof and investigation:

Final Mission Skull Death
http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/weapons.aspx?pl ayer=Xl%20Malice%20lX&vc=4&mf=5080

http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/weapons.aspx?pl ayer=Cityfires&vc=4&mf=5080

10th Mission Skull Death
http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/weapons.aspx?pl ayer=DeMoNiCxLeGeNd&vc=4&mf=5070

8th Mission Skull Death
http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/weapons.aspx?pl ayer=immortal%20eNeME&vc=4&mf=5052

7th Mission Skull Death
http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/weapons.aspx?pl ayer=DeMoNiCxLeGeNd&vc=4&mf=5050

3rd Mission "Unknown (76)" Death
http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/weapons.aspx?pl ayer=DeMoNiCxLeGeNd&vc=4&mf=5020


2nd Mission Skull Kill
http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/weapons.aspx?pl ayer=Spartanic%20Ghost&vc=4&mf=5010


[Edited on 09.22.2010 3:23 PM PDT]

  • 09.22.2010 3:15 PM PDT

A hero need not speak, for when he is gone the world will speak for him.

that unknown thing... thats new

  • 09.22.2010 3:16 PM PDT

BRYCE
Are you going to play with Boo again?

Beat.

BRYCE
You son of a -blam!-.


Posted by: Spartanic Ghost

Posted by: Th3 Quester
Also, if we need to clean up all this info and make it easier to sort, I would definitely be down for making a group. We can have separate forum posts for Bobs, Data Pads, buttons, and skulls. OP, if you want to make one just let us know. Or we can form one otherwise.

I have to give bungie some credit with this skull kill/death thing. Because even though we're not trying to find the actual skulls in game, this is yet another halo game where we technically get to hunt for "skulls" =]


OP said he wouldn't be posting anymore, and left everything up to us.

Personally I think the Skull thing is just a waste of time. The Bobs and Switches are what is important.

And the switches for ONI base, for New Alexandria, and for the tribute room, all have their uses, and thus no longer matter towards our cause.

Our goal should be finding bobs, and other switches that have no purpose.


I definitely think the skulls are significant, and at least worth looking to see what causes them. By all means, lets keep looking for switches and bobs, but I'm more interested in this right now. If the skull deaths/kills really do point to secrets, it may lead us to the legendary ending.

  • 09.22.2010 3:17 PM PDT

The Diving Pirates will surface!


Posted by: Spartanic Ghost

Posted by: Th3 Quester
Also, if we need to clean up all this info and make it easier to sort, I would definitely be down for making a group. We can have separate forum posts for Bobs, Data Pads, buttons, and skulls. OP, if you want to make one just let us know. Or we can form one otherwise.

I have to give bungie some credit with this skull kill/death thing. Because even though we're not trying to find the actual skulls in game, this is yet another halo game where we technically get to hunt for "skulls" =]


OP said he wouldn't be posting anymore, and left everything up to us.

Personally I think the Skull thing is just a waste of time. The Bobs and Switches are what is important.

And the switches for ONI base, for New Alexandria, and for the tribute room, all have their uses, and thus no longer matter towards our cause.

Our goal should be finding bobs, and other switches that have no purpose.


lol, i never said I wouldnt be posting anymore. I said I was updating the third post for now on. But the group idea seemed great so I couldn't resist making it! ^_^ Hey Spartanic, would you like to be a special member of the group for all your help here on this great thread?
http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/377930/Group/GroupHome.aspx Here is the new group.

[Edited on 09.22.2010 4:45 PM PDT]

  • 09.22.2010 3:22 PM PDT

I will probably offend you


Posted by: Th3 Quester
I definitely think the skulls are significant, and at least worth looking to see what causes them. By all means, lets keep looking for switches and bobs, but I'm more interested in this right now. If the skull deaths/kills really do point to secrets, it may lead us to the legendary ending.


Maybe, I won't deny the possibility. But I really don't think so.

I'm actually starting to think that the Legendary ending only has to do with BOBs, Data pads, and Legendary difficulty.

I'm actually intrigued by the idea that having the TACPAD equipped could allow you to record the data of the data pads. The descrpition of the data pad seems suspicious towards that very idea.

When I get my TACPAD, I will test the theory. I will go through on legendary, kill every known bob, and collect every data pad. When I finish the game, I will report back here with anythng that comes up.

  • 09.22.2010 3:23 PM PDT

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I don't think the skull deaths are anything.

Halo 3 had deaths by guardians, falls, suicides, and unknown all listed separately, and that wasn't anything.

  • 09.22.2010 3:25 PM PDT

BRYCE
Are you going to play with Boo again?

Beat.

BRYCE
You son of a -blam!-.


Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno
I don't think the skull deaths are anything.

Halo 3 had deaths by guardians, falls, suicides, and unknown all listed separately, and that wasn't anything.


I agree. EXCEPT that this game has guardians, falls, suicides, unknowns, AND Skull kills. It's a separate category, so there must be a reason. It's worth the time to try and figure out why.

  • 09.22.2010 3:27 PM PDT