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Subject: Decoding the data pads

Here goes my interpretation of the data pad audio. I compared my own recording/reversing to the one posted by Hamedolk and I hear the following phrases (Alphabetical Order):

Breach Identified
Corruption Contained
Lineage Confirmed
Protocols Reinstated
Purge Initiated
Rogue/Role Confirmed (Toss-up, leaning towards rogue)
Welcome Scion

Ordering: There appears to be no absolute order or pattern. This is based on my listening to the two data pads in Winter Contingency (DP1 and DP10).

Background: Recall the possible nature of the AI Assembly as a rotating body of AIs being created and inducted into the assembly and AIs being eliminated if/when rampancy becomes a threat, while using the system of mandatory voting to avoid rampancy as best they can. For the purpose of this argument I operate on the assumption that "Lineage Confirmed" in the context of the data pads is unrelated to the phrase played in the Halo 3 terminals.

Meaning: Perhaps the sound playing over the pads represents a sort of running audible log of the Assembly's security system.
It transcribes important events, such as the induction and elimination into the Assembly. If the Assembly is composed of a vast number of AIs, it would make sense to see a mess of entries all interlaced - logging events occurring near simultaneously.

--Lineage Confirmed: A particular new AI is recognized as one of their caliber.
--Welcome Scion: A new member, confirmed, joins the Assembly's ranks.
--Breach Identified: A security breach has occurred (would this be an internal breach by an Assembly member or from the outside, such as the distributor of the data pads hints that he has accomplished?)
--Rogue Confirmed: An Assembly member has been identified as having gone rogue.
--{ALT}Role Confirmed: A new Assembly member has chosen Minority or Majority.
--Corruption Contained: Damage caused by an Assembly member's rampancy, or perhaps their general rampant tendencies, has been contained.
--Purge Initiated: A rogue AI has been eliminated and purged from their systems.
--Protocols Reinstated: Resumption of normal operation after an interruption such as a breach/rampancy.

Turned out longer than I'd hoped, sorry! I'm excited to see what other interpretations you all can make these fit!

[Edited on 01.31.2011 11:56 PM PST]

  • 01.31.2011 11:51 PM PDT

I am a good player and I try my hardest and I love being in Collective Insanity.

I have to say that was a excellent decoding probably better than I could ever do.

  • 02.22.2011 8:15 PM PDT


Posted by: MAXPWN197
i have a small addition to your theory, first that they could have combined there knowledge's after the were decommissioned by ONI than used that to disappear for hundreds of years. another part of my modified theory is that since they were earlier versions of smart AI they may share the ability with dumb AI to live for much longer time spans with reduced processing abilities.


While the first part of your modified theory makes sense, the second part is so-so. While it is a possibility that they had someone what of a balance between smart and dumb AI, but even Dumb AI's have a lifespan.

I think there is only 2 or so logical answers to who made/what are these AI's.

1A) Human AI's that are "rogue" but instead of going crazy and doing whatever, they banded together for a certain love for their creators. New AI's are brought in to replace old/dying when they see the need. Managing things for the greater good of humanity. ect...ect...

1B) ONI played a part in creating the group of AI's possibly as as a secret project to keep humanity oblivious to the dangers it faces. And rotates AI's into the group and takes out old/damaged as they see fit.

2) The Assembly is a forerunner "long-term" AI project. basicly working like what Halsey suggested in her journal of a democracy based AI with 3 AI's grouped together. I honestly think that having others to converse with would lessen the likelynness of rampancy in forerunner AI. Anyway, The forerunners could have left them on earth after the human-forerunner war as to keep humanity on track. Although this could be considered flawed because they have no indication that they know about the flood (( the forerunners let the humans survive because they knew how to staving off the flood so you would think they would impart their AI's with some helpful information ))

But all in all i have alot of different idea's about this bouncing around in my head, some make more sense then others, but its almost impossible to guess what Bungie intended with the information they gave us. unless we find something new then were kinda stuck

P.S: This came out longer thne i thought, but im happy people still care about the data pads. they have to mean somthing, bungie would have just thrown them into the game for no reason but to bother us

  • 02.22.2011 9:11 PM PDT

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  • 02.27.2011 12:37 PM PDT

For now, I lean heavily towards a democratic assembly of AI's formed to avoid rampancy. (Whether ONI-guided or without ONI's knowledge - on the fence.)

The strongest evidence for me here are the references to voting:
DP6: "</ Debate is now closed! Voting will commence! />"
DP18: "</ Debate is now closed! Voting will commence! />"

These occur very quickly after debate begins and display an urgency to the matter in using an exclamation point after each sentence. As if the longer the debate continued after some crucial point, the more danger of rampancy there will be.

To be fair, DP18 goes on to say the voting is unnecessary at that time. I can only think being all in agreement can also keep rampancy at bay?



  • 03.03.2011 3:26 PM PDT
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Hey guys

I recorded the sound from the data pads for 5 min .Every 2-3 minutes the data pads say something different. For example I have heard these word
Researching, David Running, Skewering(?) Array

The data Pad that i recorded from was PoA

  • 03.03.2011 5:26 PM PDT

Nice! That is indeed longer than both my recordings, thanks. I'll try to verify in the next couple days.

  • 03.04.2011 4:59 AM PDT
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Possible Halo Cryptum spoilers.

From the new information in Cryptum, there is another new possibility for these data pads. I only suggest this one because of the mention in the data pads of 200,000 years. The AI could be human AI from before the Human/Forerunner war before humans were devolved, or at least the council could have started then. I don't know that there is a lot to support this, there may even be more against this idea, but I thought I'd bring it up as it does seem to be a new possibility due to the new information and a few little comments in the data pads just seemed to make me think more along these lines (again, very possibly incorrectly).

  • 03.04.2011 7:02 AM PDT

This was probably already said somewhere but...

Half of me wants to think that medicant bias was involved with this. He wanted atonement for what he did after all. Who is to say he wasn't uh..."stealing" AIs and using them to guide humanity.

Eh...

  • 03.04.2011 10:53 AM PDT


Posted by: da Thnikkalemur
For now, I lean heavily towards a democratic assembly of AI's formed to avoid rampancy. (Whether ONI-guided or without ONI's knowledge - on the fence.)

The strongest evidence for me here are the references to voting:
DP6: "</ Debate is now closed! Voting will commence! />"
DP18: "</ Debate is now closed! Voting will commence! />"

These occur very quickly after debate begins and display an urgency to the matter in using an exclamation point after each sentence. As if the longer the debate continued after some crucial point, the more danger of rampancy there will be.

To be fair, DP18 goes on to say the voting is unnecessary at that time. I can only think being all in agreement can also keep rampancy at bay?




Ah, this does bring up a good point. i do think you are correct with this theory, maybe they close and vote on discussions that they deem that would cause an acceleration of rampancy. But the only problem i see with this is that the group of AI's seem to have very very very deep and influential roots in peoples life, they basically are that little whisper in your ear. It would take a modest amount of time to gain this level of influence with the government and media, and this brings up the question.....how long can a group of self aware AI's hold off rampancy. i mean how much they have to think about what can hurt humanity and what can help and all that fun stuff is alot of work.

Unless these AI's are not human ( in that case then they can last literally forever with other AI companionship ) I dont see how they could last that long with that amount of information strain unless they replaced rampant AI with new ones periodically. Thus, one can ask "where are the new AI coming from?" i would say ONI....or perhaps....they have a stock of forerunner AI's ? idk



[Edited on 03.04.2011 1:31 PM PST]

  • 03.04.2011 1:29 PM PDT

Spartans never die... they just revert to last checkpoint.

I think the AI are Forerunner. The forerunners limited the knowledge of their AI.

And we all know the Forerunner's tech is self-sufficient.
Sentinel factories still continue to function and the Rings/Shield Worlds are all self-maintained.
These AI could have been created after the Forerunners vanished.

  • 03.04.2011 6:51 PM PDT

That is a good deduction. another one of my theories that is tied for first would definitely be that the AI are forerunner in origin and were brought to earth after the human-forerunner war to kind of watch out and guide humanity back to there original strength. while my theroy has its flaws, almost all others have just as many due to the lack of information

  • 03.04.2011 7:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

These aren't Forerunner AI and if you have read cryptum or atleast paid attention to how much they care about humanity you could tell who made them.

They are ancient AI's built by humans that are protecting us and ensuring we become advanced as they once were.

I am going to assume nobody payed attention when they hid the planet onyx and deemed the tech being too dangerous for their creators. that is becuase it is forerunner tech, which automatically canceled them out of being forerunner AI.


What we should be talking about is why they tried contacting the flood given our history with them.

  • 03.05.2011 3:01 PM PDT

Ive been meaning to buy/read cryptum.... >.>

should probably get on that....

  • 03.05.2011 3:26 PM PDT
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Not sure if this has been said or not, as I don't have the patience to read through everything.

The Smart AI cannot be (or are incredibly unlikely) to be forerunner. If they've studied Cortana and S-117's neural interface and determined that the Committee must do the same, they're very likely to be human AI's. What Spartan would want another Guilty Spark bouncing around?

  • 03.08.2011 8:52 AM PDT

Glory and fame, blood is our name!
Souls full of thunder, hearts of steel!
Killers of men, a warrior's friend!
Sworn to avenge our fallen brothers!
Sons of the gods, today we shall die.
Open Valhalla's door!
Let the battle begin, with swords in the wind! Hail Gods of War!

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  • 03.08.2011 11:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
These aren't Forerunner AI and if you have read cryptum or atleast paid attention to how much they care about humanity you could tell who made them.

They are ancient AI's built by humans that are protecting us and ensuring we become advanced as they once were.

I am going to assume nobody payed attention when they hid the planet onyx and deemed the tech being too dangerous for their creators. that is becuase it is forerunner tech, which automatically canceled them out of being forerunner AI.


What we should be talking about is why they tried contacting the flood given our history with them.


I was thinking along the same lines, I believe they COULD still be forerunner AI simply because no one, save the didact and his associates and the Librarian and her associates seemed to know of the Shield worlds, But ancient human AI would make sense. Contrary to what was earlier posted MOST/ALL Forerunner knowledge was kept in an accessible network called the Domain and Forerunners and AI alike had access to it therefore it would be difficult to hide anything from a Forerunner AI.

  • 03.25.2011 3:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Infinite Zero00
Posted by: grey101
These aren't Forerunner AI and if you have read cryptum or atleast paid attention to how much they care about humanity you could tell who made them.

They are ancient AI's built by humans that are protecting us and ensuring we become advanced as they once were.

I am going to assume nobody payed attention when they hid the planet onyx and deemed the tech being too dangerous for their creators. that is becuase it is forerunner tech, which automatically canceled them out of being forerunner AI.


What we should be talking about is why they tried contacting the flood given our history with them.


I was thinking along the same lines, I believe they COULD still be forerunner AI simply because no one, save the didact and his associates and the Librarian and her associates seemed to know of the Shield worlds, But ancient human AI would make sense. Contrary to what was earlier posted MOST/ALL Forerunner knowledge was kept in an accessible network called the Domain and Forerunners and AI alike had access to it therefore it would be difficult to hide anything from a Forerunner AI.


Again, they are human AIs without a doubt and i am sure that Medicant Bias crushed the domain.

  • 03.26.2011 9:22 AM PDT

Remember, Cortana did this regularily.

  • 03.28.2011 11:08 PM PDT

I think the third party that instilled terror into the covenant was mendiacant bias aboard the forerunner ship. it basically told the would be prophets that the humans were their gods, or their gods chosen ones.


  • 04.01.2011 3:12 AM PDT


Posted by: Hysterical Joker

Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
These would appear, from some of the data pads, to be Forerunner AIs. This is probably not correct, since they appear to have minimal knowledge of the Flood and the Shield World Onyx.

Still, they explain some of ONI's shadier activities.

While I do doubt them to be Forerunner AI, it does pose an interesting question as to how there could be such a large network of Smart AI that are undetected and unknown and can infiltrate ONI so thoroughly without fear of detection.

I just had a thought, correct me if I'm wrong or if this has been pointed out before but: If you've read Cryptum it shows that humanity once had a vast empire over 100,000 years ago, before teh forerunners cut them down. Could these A.I. be from that time period where humanity had far more advanced technology? Perhaps they watched over the re-evolution and growing of humanity?
Thoughts?

  • 04.04.2011 2:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: DoubleP1243

Posted by: Hysterical Joker

[quote]Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
These would appear, from some of the data pads, to be Forerunner AIs. This is probably not correct, since they appear to have minimal knowledge of the Flood and the Shield World Onyx.

Still, they explain some of ONI's shadier activities.


Thoughts?


Look 3 posts above you

  • 04.04.2011 2:24 PM PDT

My bad, the thought just popped in my head after reading the earlier posts.

  • 04.04.2011 2:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: DoubleP1243
My bad, the thought just popped in my head after reading the earlier posts.


No, its a good thing.

Now we can finally talk about The AIs.

Where could they be? how are they being powered?

  • 04.04.2011 2:30 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: DoubleP1243
My bad, the thought just popped in my head after reading the earlier posts.


No, its a good thing.

Now we can finally talk about The AIs.

Where could they be? how are they being powered?

My only guess would be that they're somewhere protected from all threats like the flood, the Halo array, and the Forerunners back in the day.
Somewhere deep underground perhaps? Once they taped into humanities modern communications it wouldn't matter where they were.
As for how they're being powered, I'm not sure. Techology seemed to be crazy advanced back then based on the standards in 2552, so who knows.

  • 04.04.2011 2:34 PM PDT