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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: DoubleP1243
My bad, the thought just popped in my head after reading the earlier posts.


No, its a good thing.

Now we can finally talk about The AIs.

Where could they be? how are they being powered?

My only guess would be that they're somewhere protected from all threats like the flood, the Halo array, and the Forerunners back in the day.
Somewhere deep underground perhaps? Once they taped into humanities modern communications it wouldn't matter where they were.
As for how they're being powered, I'm not sure. Techology seemed to be crazy advanced back then based on the standards in 2552, so who knows.


Well it would have to be within or on the borders of UNSC space pre-covenant.

For some reason reach is the first thing to pop into mind, though that might be a forerunner made planet.

hm...

  • 04.04.2011 2:35 PM PDT

Is it interesting that they're information is found on data pands, something a human would have and use on Reach. One is even found near a human body in the first level, could some humans be aware of them? Or am I thinking to literal?

-Maybe they're (the A.I.'s) on Earth somewhere. In Cryptum it even said that humanity originally evolved on Earth, so it was probably still their main base of operations over 100,000 years ago.

[Edited on 04.04.2011 2:40 PM PDT]

  • 04.04.2011 2:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: DoubleP1243
Is it interesting that they're information is found on data pands, something a human would have and use on Reach. One is even found near a human body in the first level, could some humans be aware of them? Or am I thinking to literal?

-Maybe they're (the A.I.'s) on Earth somewhere. In Cryptum it even said that humanity originally evolved on Earth, so it was probably still their main base of operations over 100,000 years ago.


Far too literal :)

To be fair the forerunners speculated that Earth was our homeworld, i just got done re-reading the book so it is clear in my head.
so that is something to think about

  • 04.04.2011 2:50 PM PDT

I think I may have noticed something curious about data pad 19.
In one of the sentences the word all is written as "a][" and in data pad 8 the "][" appears to be the signature sign off for the AI on trial.

  • 04.20.2011 10:10 PM PDT

It's kinda fun to do the impossible. :)

Tell me if this has been posted before but there was a large network that AIs could comune to in Forerunner times.(from Cryptum) They may have been able to tap into that source.

  • 06.15.2011 7:57 PM PDT

you are what you dare.

http://81st-combatbrigade.forumotion.com/
http://forge4life.betaboard.net/

the large network of forerunner AIs are known as Ancilla. the large AI type construct that all Forerunners could access was known as the Domain, and it kinda worked like the internet works today is what i am thinking.

but there is ne thing that i cannot exactly confir as i do not have it with me at the moment, but there is a special project that is mentioned in Dr. Halsey's Journal from Halo Reach's limited and legendary editions... a "tribunal" type AI that she was concidering creating, but from wht i remember, once cortana was up and running, i dont think that other project got upand running, however this "Tribunal" style AI Construct just might be the backbone of the connection between the data pads.- if anyone can confirm what i am talking about and provide furher informtion, that would be greatly apreciated, thank you.

  • 06.15.2011 9:54 PM PDT

"Moooooooo"
-Ghost cow

wait ... is this canon???

  • 06.25.2011 10:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: kurtambrose051
the large network of forerunner AIs are known as Ancilla. the large AI type construct that all Forerunners could access was known as the Domain, and it kinda worked like the internet works today is what i am thinking.

but there is ne thing that i cannot exactly confir as i do not have it with me at the moment, but there is a special project that is mentioned in Dr. Halsey's Journal from Halo Reach's limited and legendary editions... a "tribunal" type AI that she was concidering creating, but from wht i remember, once cortana was up and running, i dont think that other project got upand running, however this "Tribunal" style AI Construct just might be the backbone of the connection between the data pads.- if anyone can confirm what i am talking about and provide furher informtion, that would be greatly appreciated, thank you.


Ancilla= AI not a network of them

The domain is not a AI, it is complicated to explain but it is more like a biological "internet".

Halsey wanted to create AIs in slipspace thus giving them infinite amount of memory but it didn't work. the assembly then stated they should look into doing that.

  • 06.25.2011 11:05 AM PDT

you are what you dare.

http://81st-combatbrigade.forumotion.com/
http://forge4life.betaboard.net/

ok first off i stated that i wasnt entirely sure what i was typing up. but thank you for clarifying.

  • 07.11.2011 12:14 AM PDT

The Ban Hammer is all that was and all that will be! The Ban Hammer is time and space, life and death! The Ban Hammer can see into your mind! The Ban Hammer can see into your soouull....

Pretty much it's simple. Human AI is gathering to be a collective mind. They think they are the shepards of humanity, and should never get involved, since humans wont listen to them. so they hatch a plan to make humans believe what they want them to believe as if they came up with it on their own...OH CRAP! INCEPTION! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! If humanity dies oh well. But then an AI sends message to the covenant and alerts them to humanity. The AI's all go crazy as to why, and the AI said, if we are to save humanity, we need them to unite. and we need to fight along next to them.

Booyah, there ya go.

  • 07.12.2011 4:40 PM PDT


Posted by: Hysterical Joker
I agree with your assessment of Halsey's brutality. The question is does she actually have a chemical imbalance, or is that a question posed based on the degree of her ruthlessness?

Noland + Johnson is something I will look into later on when I have more time.

Gravemind is an interesting theory, very interesting.

Rest of the answers sound reasonable, though I won't immediately remove those questions as there could be some as of yet unnoticed thing.


the chemical imbalance could be related to here obvious excessive paranoia. Take on look at here journal and you can see ramblings of how the UNSC is spying on here work (eg page 5,9,120(i think) and countless others)

  • 08.01.2011 3:26 PM PDT

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  • 08.01.2011 3:26 PM PDT


Posted by: Al1757XNA

Posted by: Hysterical Joker
I agree with your assessment of Halsey's brutality. The question is does she actually have a chemical imbalance, or is that a question posed based on the degree of her ruthlessness?

Noland + Johnson is something I will look into later on when I have more time.

Gravemind is an interesting theory, very interesting.

Rest of the answers sound reasonable, though I won't immediately remove those questions as there could be some as of yet unnoticed thing.


the chemical imbalance could be related to here obvious excessive paranoia. Take on look at here journal and you can see ramblings of how the UNSC is spying on here work (eg page 5,9,120(i think) and countless others)

I'll try to get back to this when I can. I need to reacquaint myself with the details and intricacies of the lore, and the question you're asking already have a definitive answer. There's also 3 pages of discussion to catch up on.

It's neat that there is still discussion to be had on these subjects.

  • 08.01.2011 3:28 PM PDT

someone needs to sumerize this thread for easy reading

  • 08.01.2011 3:36 PM PDT


Posted by: Al1757XNA
someone needs to sumerize this thread for easy reading

It'd be nice the trim out the superfluous bits, but I think it would still end up being lengthy.

  • 08.01.2011 3:39 PM PDT

WAR IS INFINITE PEOPLE TO FIGHT THEM ARE NOT


Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
These would appear, from some of the data pads, to be Forerunner AIs. This is probably not correct, since they appear to have minimal knowledge of the Flood and the Shield World Onyx.

Still, they explain some of ONI's shadier activities.


Indeed

  • 08.01.2011 3:51 PM PDT

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finaly read all 11 pages, some very interesting theories and some crazy ones. it got really frustrating to read beyond page 9 when posts were just repeating subjects that were allready coverd.

will share my thoughts later as it is way past bedtime now
cheers for keeping this thread alive all this time

  • 08.04.2011 3:43 PM PDT

HajDuk

If you ask me I think they live in the human systems. Not that they are AIs in the system but that they ARE the system sorta. It would explain why they would want to keep humanity alive and how they have gone undetected by ONI. Either way it doesn't explain how come Cortana never found them out. She can crack into human, forerunner and covenant systems so there is a big question as to how comes Cortana never mentioned or found them out. As to how they could harm humanity should they wish and/or run experiments its pretty clear that if they have access to ONI they also have access to ALL other human technology includiong terraformers and machinery involved in food production. These tests are most likely the testing of certain chemical agents that are put into the air or food supply. The main reason I would say that they've never created something terrible or had a Halo ecuivelant to 28 days later is that they are an extremely intelligent COMMITTEE meaning they would avoid such risks. I'm very sure they are human and that they are unaware of the Flood. Also what bothers me is what happened to them after Reach? After Halo 3? It says in a novel that scientists have been studying the gate to the ark post-Halo 3 and i guess we have the committee controlling that. I'll post some more off my thoughts later on.

  • 08.15.2011 4:54 AM PDT

So at the beginning of each data pad something speaks which speaks differently than the AI.

The summary to Primordium seems to imply that Chakas was turned into an AI or something and is still "alive", talking to cheif. So what if the "human like" voice at the beginning of each data pad is Chakas?

Also, "Lineage Confirmed"...Greg Bear also told us that the Spartan-II's are all descendants of Chakas and/or Riser.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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  • 08.15.2011 5:54 AM PDT


Posted by: Wazooty
So at the beginning of each data pad something speaks which speaks differently than the AI.

The summary to Primordium seems to imply that Chakas was turned into an AI or something and is still "alive", talking to cheif. So what if the "human like" voice at the beginning of each data pad is Chakas?

Also, "Lineage Confirmed"...Greg Bear also told us that the Spartan-II's are all descendants of Chakas and/or Riser.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Another person has made that connection, I think that it holds some weight and makes sense. Though I haven't had the time to go through and make any stern confirmations. Others are more than welcome to take up the task though!

  • 08.25.2011 3:00 PM PDT


Posted by: Hajduk17
If you ask me I think they live in the human systems. Not that they are AIs in the system but that they ARE the system sorta. It would explain why they would want to keep humanity alive and how they have gone undetected by ONI. Either way it doesn't explain how come Cortana never found them out. She can crack into human, forerunner and covenant systems so there is a big question as to how comes Cortana never mentioned or found them out. As to how they could harm humanity should they wish and/or run experiments its pretty clear that if they have access to ONI they also have access to ALL other human technology includiong terraformers and machinery involved in food production. These tests are most likely the testing of certain chemical agents that are put into the air or food supply. The main reason I would say that they've never created something terrible or had a Halo ecuivelant to 28 days later is that they are an extremely intelligent COMMITTEE meaning they would avoid such risks. I'm very sure they are human and that they are unaware of the Flood. Also what bothers me is what happened to them after Reach? After Halo 3? It says in a novel that scientists have been studying the gate to the ark post-Halo 3 and i guess we have the committee controlling that. I'll post some more off my thoughts later on.

I see that you have a lot of disjointed thoughts. Who do you think the committee is? Provide your point of view, don't try to satisfy every opposing viewpoint all at once.

  • 08.25.2011 3:02 PM PDT

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Wow. A lot of awesome information in there. Thanks for the summary. I think I need to go through and re-read the pads.

  • 09.07.2011 5:24 AM PDT
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  • 09.11.2011 6:50 PM PDT

Some say that you cant do all that, Id like to see them prove me wrong.

Im just curious, and have had heard much speculation that the AI are smart AI and that they could possibly be Forerunner or Covenant AI, the latter I doubt. But as forementioned they had found forerunner technology on other planets, that these AI had deemed "dangerous" to humanity. But the thing that I've been wondering is whether or not one of these, or all of these AI, are based off forerunner tech. The possibility of the forerunner tech. being reverse engineered most definently being possible. And considering that there are also forerunner objects on Earth, Halo 3, then why is it not possible that one of these AI could potentially be a Forerunner AI. Which might explain how they could work under the radar without much notice of ONI. As well the fact that ONI had an insurrection on its front doorstep probably doesnt help, and also considering that these smart AI can easily crack the Covenants battle net with little to no difficulty. It suprises me little to think that these AI could do things under the radar and in complete secrecy of ONI.
Also I think that there might possibly be an underlying message hidden within all datapads, I havent been able to put two and two together yet but Id like to see if anyone can figure out why those numbers, symbols, and letters take place of what should be there. If anyone could shed some light on the matter it would be very much so welcome. If someone could also compile a list of all numbers, symbols, and letters that are out of place that would be a very good place to start. Or maybe I'm just crazy. But still, please and thank you.

  • 09.14.2011 8:07 AM PDT

Im sorry if this is possibly off topic from some of what is being mentioned here and I must admit I usually am not this involved with Halo History, but I have to ask if it is possible that the AI that is being mentioned is possibly just the engineers, In halo ODST the engineer was manipulating the superintendent and when i was reading further on the engineer it stated that they are in fact created by the forerunners before the first halo activation, and survived since they are not organic but merely mechanical structures. perhaps some one who has a more in depth understanding of halo lore can look further into this or correct any possible misunderstanding on my part.

also here is a link to more info on the Engineers: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Huragok

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  • 09.22.2011 11:50 AM PDT