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Subject: Stalins thesis on 'The mind of a spammer'.
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Now a lot of things have been said about spammers.Spammers everywhere. I have an aquaintance who spams, and he is what I consider to be the typical spammer.... Very shy, lonley, finds it hard to talk to girls etc. Any way, what intrests me about spammers is the psycology (sp?). While i cleary have not studied this subject (i can't even spell it correctly) I have come to some conclusions. While some of these may appear obvious, they are interesting nonetheless.

1. A spammer seeks fame, or infamy. In many ways, spammers are attention seekers. They like the thrill of being famous, or infamous. They can attain noteriety on forums, where their anonimity allows them to behave in a way that will get them noticed. There actions have no consequence, for them at least, so they are able to flame members, use racist or offensive language etc.

2. A spammer becomes a hacker. Spammers enjoy causing trouble on computers, networks, servers etc. The ultimate aim therefore is to get the technical know-how to become a hacker. As a hacker they can cause far more trouble than they EVER could as a spammer.

3. A spammer is a lonley person. I remeber a couple of days back, someone claimed davestar had no friends or somesuch, and davestar immediately took a very defensive tone, he was eager to show people that he only spams the forums to 'kill time', and that he was going to meet some friends at the mall. He may well have been going to see friends, but it is clear that his friends are not very good ones, or they dislike him, or they constanly make fun of his geek like behaviour.

4. Spammers and girls don't mix. Spammers have great difficulty talking to the ladies (I am referring to spammers as guys because they are far far more common than female spammers).I mean for one thing, its not the most endearing of qualities that a girl would want in a guy. GIRL-'So what do you get up to in your spare time?' SPAMMER X'Well, i like to go to a forum and post pointless, offensive, rude subjects, or failing that attempt to provoke the users and moderators'. Hm. My spammer aqquaintance finds it hard to even muster a grunt when talking to a girl that is considered even remotely popular.

5. Spammers, in reality, dislike group situations. Let me give an example. Me and my friends will be in the pub chatting away, and this spammer aquaintance will be there, and he will not get involved in the ENTIRE conversation. He will laugh when something funny is said, but otherwise he will remain quiet. This is because spammers are afraid of saying the wrong thing, something that he will be ridiculed for. That is why the net is so appealing to him, the spammer can say whatever he likes, it doesn't matter because he thrives off the flames that he gets.

All of the above leads to my final point.
6. Spammers are VERY insecure about themselves. Spammers are loney, loney people. The friends they do have ridicule them for their chosen 'hobby', they find it hard to talk to new people, and they cant talk to girls. Its an old cliche, but we shouldn't hate these pour souls...... We should pity them.

Whether or not this gets blocked, i would like to hear peoples thoughts on my thoughts. If this is blocked, PM me if you have any pointers, anything to add or any comments.
Thank you for your time.

  • 08.11.2004 2:45 AM PDT

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[raises eyebrow] I've also got an friend who's a spammer. He just does it cause he can. He's absolutally none of the above.

  • 08.11.2004 3:38 AM PDT
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It's interesting... But I don't think it's possible to generalise all spammers like this, and at the same time there are people who have similar attributes to those you mentioned who don't spam, etc...

I am still at high school (doing my final year) and I see plenty of guys provoking, spouting useless stuff, making fun of people and getting using that to get attention from chicks... so you can't say it'd be an entire turn off for a chick... but I'd prefer to think the majority of people have some sense, so I still agree with your points.

But I mean... I myself have trouble talking to girls, am on the quiet side, and am not the most active member in the social scene... but that doesn't mean I resort to spamming. I despise it in all its forms, and seek to thwart it everywhere!

But yeah... I agree with you... and I've lost track of what I'm saying so I'll stop there ;-)

  • 08.11.2004 3:41 AM PDT
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Yeah dudes my post was very much a wild generalisation..... Alot of people who exhibit these qualities aren't spammers, and some spammers are not like this. But hey if Micheal Moore can get away with only telling one side of the story, so can I haha.
Durandal, yeah i can see your point, about yourself exhibiting some of the qualities I have discussed, and you are not a spammer. I think this could be to do with the way you decide to handle what you dislike about your life. Some choose to spam, some choose to help stop it, some choose video games, some choose sport etc.

[Edited on 8/11/2004 3:49:09 AM]

  • 08.11.2004 3:46 AM PDT
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I did realise... I was just getting a point across... and what's wrong with Michael Moore?
Which documentary are you talking about?

  • 08.11.2004 3:48 AM PDT
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Haha not to make this political, but i watched bowling for columbine, and his points were interesting and in nearly all case correct, but it was a one sided argument. But lets not discuss that. Back to the mentality of the spammer.

  • 08.11.2004 3:50 AM PDT

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Mentality is a rather loose term. The few spammers that don't fall into those categories that you listed above are usually one of 3 others;

1. A showoff- Someone who so desparately needs attention that they resort to making people mad to get it. You can see a parallel behavior in small children in busy homes - when the parents are low on time the children will often act out in order to gain attention. These spammers are often the ones who start out with good intentions, and due to either being behind the times or ignorant of rules and ignored, start acting up.

2. Revenge Oriented - This may have been a normal everyday poster, and due to an oversight by him or the administrators, something happened out of his favor. Due to a lack of maturity or conditioning, the would be poster then decides that the forum "Powers that Be" have it in for him, so he does his best to attack them 'first'. Many of the ones on here that attack Shishka and MakaVeli fall into this category.

3. Just plain old assholism. Sometimes, people just want to be a dick. This could be due to social issues at home - or plain old sociopathic behavior. These are often the people with the biggest lack of social graces. They will often invent things to say and invent new Screennames to perpetuate the spam habit. Davester 88 and Mithrandir fall into this category. When you are willing to spend the time necessary to create more than one screenname for anything - for the specific purpose of spam - It's a classic example of sociopathic behavior. These are often people who fall into the categories outlined by Stalin the 31st above, but just as often are just plain old loser cockbites with few or no friends.
Oftentimes starting topics simply to troll for responses. A disturbing individual to say the least.

Well that's my two cents on the topic. Remember; these are merely my opinions, and if you don't agree, well, tough....

  • 08.11.2004 8:26 AM PDT
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Some spammers just like to be annoying. Plus, i think being online and not having to face the people face to face makes you braver.

Though i think spam can get funny at times if it's done right.

[Edited on 8/11/2004 9:10:44 AM]

  • 08.11.2004 9:10 AM PDT

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Depends on the situation generally -- But there is a mathematical formula that works like this=

Nice normal individual + Anonymity of Internet = Jackass.

Not a scientific proof as it doesn't affect everyone in this way, but almost invariably the spammers are polite people in person, because if they were the same way in person as they were online - someone would beat the piss out of them.

  • 08.11.2004 9:35 AM PDT
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Well, in my time being here I made 3 spam topics. I did it because I thought they were funny, and plus the forums were kind of dry at the time, and I needed a good laugh. Well, one was "Anybody ever heard of a game called Halo?" and I acted like a complete noob to be stupid, giving a really screwed up interpretation of Halo from the eyes of a person who has never played it before or read the books (or at least what I thought one testimony like that would be). Well, whenever I need a good laugh, I just go to www.funnyjunk.com or some other humorous site.

  • 08.11.2004 9:49 AM PDT
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1. yes
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. no
6. no

take it from me

  • 08.11.2004 9:52 AM PDT
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-blam!-ism... what a great word. I know a few people myself that have fallen captive to this strange and addictive religion. I know people who I swear are addicted to being an -blam!- and if they try to act normal they go through withdrawls.

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Posted by: Egyptian Jackal
1. yes
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. no
6. no

take it from me


Classic Denial

  • 08.11.2004 10:04 AM PDT

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Following this statement is a look into the mind of a spammer:









That's right, folks. The mind of a spammer is full of nothing but fog.

  • 08.11.2004 10:58 AM PDT
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
shishka...u speak truth

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I must say Shishka that undying hate between a Mod and a spammer is most humorous. But also understandable. That hatred is the same as hating the copier at work that doesn't copy properly, or hating the office clown for his stupid pranks and jokes, etc etc. Sometimes though a complex love-hate realtionship develops. Although for many spammers and mods, it is just plain old Hate-hate

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Spammers are like the flood, the mods can ban them all they want, but there will always be more.

  • 08.11.2004 11:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: Shishka
Following this statement is a look into the mind of a spammer:









That's right, folks. The mind of a spammer is full of nothing but fog.


And the tru7h shall set us free....

  • 08.11.2004 11:27 AM PDT
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The mind of a spammer is filled with tasty spam.... mmm.... MORE SPAM!

*claps his hands and a truck full falls through ceiling* sorry. Aren't those commercials really stupid?

I heard spam has a half life of 50,000 years...

  • 08.11.2004 11:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Shishka
Following this statement is a look into the mind of a spammer:









That's right, folks. The mind of a spammer is full of nothing but fog.


hey, thats a violation of the bungie code of conduct

  • 08.11.2004 12:01 PM PDT
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Maybe spammers are just bored, with nothing better to do?

  • 08.11.2004 12:22 PM PDT

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Maybe spammers are just bored, with nothing better to do?


They could go die... How 'bout that one?

  • 08.11.2004 12:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: ajenteks
Maybe spammers are just bored, with nothing better to do?


They could go die... How 'bout that one?


Perhaps, but I'm of the philosophy that internet matters are nothing to get emotional about one way or the other. I can't very easily go out and share a pitcher or three of beer with my internet "friends" anymore than I can make a spammer shut up.

The reality is that most people are jerks, and it's not going to change anytime soon, especially on the internet. It's best to just not let it get to you.

  • 08.11.2004 12:31 PM PDT
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I think this is considered spam. 0.o
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  • 08.11.2004 12:41 PM PDT
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Hmm...I'd have to say yes to all those except for #1. Sadly. :-(

  • 08.11.2004 12:50 PM PDT

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