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I'm glad to see you guys actually did increase the death weighting from 1/3 to 1/2. I was wondering why the ratings seemed lower then in the beta.

  • 09.22.2010 7:51 PM PDT


Posted by: ResolvedParadox
So the fun fact quick math says the highest rating (assuming 50 kills or assists and no deaths) is 1844 and lowest (assuming 50 betrayals) is 150. Does that sound about right?

Damn I have to stop getting killed in games! ;p


You could actually have an unlimited number of betrayals, but because you'd get booted well before that it won't happen.

  • 09.22.2010 7:53 PM PDT
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So do all your games count? Dammit....I've had a bunch of horrible games cause I sort of stopped trying. I thought it was just your best 3. I assumed that because that's what they rated you on. Can anyone clarify this for me?

  • 09.22.2010 7:55 PM PDT


Posted by: A Deaf Boy
Maybe I missed this, but after a season ends and everything gets reset, will there be an indicator of what your previous rank(s) were on your service record?

Lets say I got ranked Onyx at the end of a season (yeah right...), will it show somewhere that "Hey, I got up to Onyx once!!!"?

That'd be cool.


Yeah, all your stats will be archived. It's not like they just dissappear. Just think of it a a season in professional sports.

  • 09.22.2010 7:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Strategy

Posted by: A Deaf Boy
Maybe I missed this, but after a season ends and everything gets reset, will there be an indicator of what your previous rank(s) were on your service record?

Lets say I got ranked Onyx at the end of a season (yeah right...), will it show somewhere that "Hey, I got up to Onyx once!!!"?

That'd be cool.


Yeah, all your stats will be archived. It's not like they just dissappear. Just think of it a a season in professional sports.


I feel so stupid. I lost focus in so many games. Well at least there is next season...

  • 09.22.2010 7:59 PM PDT


Posted by: grandmasterkof
I have won more than 50% of my matches in team arena and was wonder WHY is my division is a freaking bronze.


Because some people are winning 80%+ and the divsions aren't equally distributed. Bronze may very well be the top 40%.

[Edited on 09.22.2010 8:01 PM PDT]

  • 09.22.2010 8:00 PM PDT

hi

  • 09.22.2010 8:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: urk
During a game, you're active rating is displayed on the scoreboard.


Oh, Urk... I expected so much more.

  • 09.22.2010 8:57 PM PDT

Spartan II-151
Look, just talk to me. I'm sure we'll get along.

I just wish it didn't give me a 1337 rating (that's right, I had 1337) when I had to take on 4 players...I did pretty good! I just think the deaths should only be worth -1/4 instead of a 1/2 if everybody on your team quits. It happens too much!!!!!

[Edited on 09.22.2010 9:08 PM PDT]

  • 09.22.2010 9:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: Shoe shot
I just wish it didn't give me a 1337 rating (that's right, I had 1337) when I had to take on 4 players...I did pretty good! I just think the deaths should only be worth -1/4 instead of a 1/2 if everybody on your team quits. It happens too much!!!!!


As if you wouldn't want that rating.

  • 09.22.2010 9:09 PM PDT

Why is radar activated in the Slayer Pro gametype variant?

Arena is the only place in the entire game where this occurs.

Was it done intentionally?

  • 09.22.2010 9:43 PM PDT

~ Videogames are my favorite videogames ~

Spartan reporting for duty!

I don't think I'll be making it to Onyx anytime soon but I'll be giving it a shot every season. A nice breath of fresh air from the old rankings. ;)

By the way, any chance of there being any challenges associated to this playlist on some days?

  • 09.22.2010 9:57 PM PDT

Im the Chief of the Slayers and the Slayer of the Chiefs.

Favourite Quote " And on the seven7h day God said 'Let there be Halo.' and it was done." - Halo Bible

Gamertag: ChiefSlayer

using this game as an example

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=81373 411&player=ChiefSlayer

Is it really true that i place 2nd when im +10 and the guy getting the highest score is only +1? Ok he has more kills and assists, but he has so many deaths. They didnt make deaths count enough. Death should be 1.0 point of not more. It doesnt even make sense to make it worth less. your rewarding the players for killing and winning, and in order for that to happen they need to not die. Ill take +10 at 11 and 1 death anyday over a guy with 20 kills but 22 deaths giving -2 in the match. It doesnt make sense. I preformed better, i should have a better rating.

This way, if you have -blam!- teammates ( which seems to always be the case for me since i do well and still lose every game) you still cannot really reach your real rank/division. How am i a bronze when i have daily ratings of 1600's some days. Its all stupidly done.

[Edited on 09.22.2010 10:58 PM PDT]

  • 09.22.2010 10:57 PM PDT

From Cyro to Meta

Alright :D

  • 09.23.2010 12:21 AM PDT

One gripe I have is that the assist system is totally bizarre at the moment. If I put three DMR shots on a guy, and my teammate follows up with one more and a headshot, should I not get an assist?

And that's a mild example. I've had much weirder assist moments occur.

I'd suggest making them easier to achieve so that people are rewarded by putting even 2 or 3 shots on a player, which can be what tips the balance in an encounter. At the very least provide an explanation for how exactly the assist system works.

Another issue I have with the system. Why does my friend who spends the game jamming the other teams radar with the Active Camo ability in doubles not get credit for this beyond the currently meager win bonus?

Winning in playlists like Team Doubles requires so much more nuance than can be measured with just kills, assists, and deaths. Winning should be worth a more substantial amount in the rating system, so that people who may not look good on paper still get credit for being on the winning team, especially in Team Doubles where having a good partner is everything.

  • 09.23.2010 4:37 AM PDT

Please... I beg of you. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT EACH EQUATION MEANS??? What are the asterisks (*)representing? Don't tell me I'm the only one who doesn't have a clue about the chizz that was posted on this forum. I need an explanation. I'm still in Pre-Algebra right now! We don't even have the right books!

  • 09.23.2010 4:55 AM PDT

Nice, lets get it on!! ;)

  • 09.23.2010 7:08 AM PDT
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agree with the concept of points lost to deaths should decrease as players on your team quit and would love to see ratings change depending on how much you contribute to an assist

  • 09.23.2010 7:22 AM PDT

What can change the nature of a man?

Nice guide! thx.

Regards o/

[Edited on 09.23.2010 8:34 AM PDT]

  • 09.23.2010 8:34 AM PDT
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xTeam Wolfyx Leader

Arena is cool at times. Just, people are so desperate to get ranked up that they camp all day and the fun is lost. I do enjoy Arena Doubles better than Arena Team Slayer,

  • 09.23.2010 9:46 AM PDT

Another thing to point out is that the formula currently is not penalizing for Betrayals (I know Bungie stated they're supposed to). They aren't taken into account in the ratings currently, although I'm assuming this is another thing that will update for Season 2. In addition to the betrayal penalty, I think that the player who is betrayed should not have that death counted in their rating as it currently is. That way, betrayals only hurt the player that commits them, and no one else is victim (besides the fact that you're team might lose).

  • 09.23.2010 9:59 AM PDT

Also I think it's lame that the losing team is automatically docked points. I did better than the entire enemy team and I get 3rd place overall? I had a higher spread and more assists.

  • 09.23.2010 10:55 AM PDT
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This must be the most convoluted ranking system in any game of recent memory lol.

  • 09.23.2010 11:18 AM PDT

Damn you roor!

Death penalty needs to be at least 0.8 and get rid of the radars. Also, patch the game to make assists easier to get. Do JUST THOSE THREE THINGS, and arena ratings would go from meaningless to quite telling of a persons actual skill.

Why, currently, is someone going 15-2 not getting as high a rating as someone going 22-23(assume equal assists since everyone only has 1 by the end of the game anyway)?

  • 09.23.2010 11:47 AM PDT

Im the Chief of the Slayers and the Slayer of the Chiefs.

Favourite Quote " And on the seven7h day God said 'Let there be Halo.' and it was done." - Halo Bible

Gamertag: ChiefSlayer

exactly. Another problem is if 1 team quits out the winning team gets really low ratings depending on how far along in the game they are.

  • 09.23.2010 12:02 PM PDT

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