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Subject: Spartan II VS Spartan III, who wins?


Posted by: mastercheifrckz
S-III's have almost no armor, it's made light so move easy in.

Proof:
Case: "Dante": One plasma bolt to the side killed him due to the weakness of armor.

Case: "Kelly": When she first arrived on Onyx she was attacked by S-III's she open handed stuck an S-III (I wanna say Olivia) and dented the armor. This strike was meant to be non-lethal.

Case: "Ghost of Onyx": Kurt even straight out says that stealth was their only defense.
Sub-case: When Camp Currahee was under attack, Kurt get's to his old S-II armor, saying he SHOULD take it because it is superior in every way.


However Kurt takes the SPII armour. Not the MJOLNIR.

But i have tos ay a Spartan II would make minced meat of a Spartan III. Not due to armour. just sheer speed, reactions, and most importantly. battle experience. Blue teams first mission was when they were ages 14... and considering that at the end of Halo 3 the Cheif is about 42, thats a considerably larger ammount of time as a battle hardened solider. The Spartans III's were like kamikaze Soliders, expendible. as long as they killed a few covvies when they went their job was done.

  • 09.25.2010 6:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: grave_mind21

Posted by: mastercheifrckz
S-III's have almost no armor, it's made light so move easy in.

Proof:
Case: "Dante": One plasma bolt to the side killed him due to the weakness of armor.

Case: "Kelly": When she first arrived on Onyx she was attacked by S-III's she open handed stuck an S-III (I wanna say Olivia) and dented the armor. This strike was meant to be non-lethal.

Case: "Ghost of Onyx": Kurt even straight out says that stealth was their only defense.
Sub-case: When Camp Currahee was under attack, Kurt get's to his old S-II armor, saying he SHOULD take it because it is superior in every way.


However Kurt takes the SPII armour. Not the MJOLNIR.


He only does that so he doesn't alienate himself from the S III's.

  • 09.25.2010 8:24 AM PDT
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Yes, the Spartan III's are capable Spartans, but the Spartan II's are the better soldier.


What makes them better is they are the creme of the genetic crop. And the SII's were better suited to be successful as a solo soldier. The S III's were geared to be a team.

Kurt even mentions something along those lines in The Ghosts of Onyx


Also, I've read all the books...numerous times

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The S-II have more experience.

  • 09.25.2010 3:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: YEM
Yes, the Spartan III's are capable Spartans, but the Spartan II's are the better soldier.


What makes them better is they are the creme of the genetic crop. And the SII's were better suited to be successful as a solo soldier. The S III's were geared to be a team.

Kurt even mentions something along those lines in The Ghosts of Onyx


Also, I've read all the books...numerous times

I always got the impression that the S II's where the ultimate team.

There was a chapter in TFOR where Halsey is observing a training exercise, where the SII's are playing capture the flag. They pretty much acted as one mind.

So I reckon any team of spartan II's could take down any team of S III's.

  • 09.25.2010 4:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Danny A G


I always got the impression that the S II's where the ultimate team.

There was a chapter in TFOR where Halsey is observing a training exercise, where the SII's are playing capture the flag. They pretty much acted as one mind.

So I reckon any team of spartan II's could take down any team of S III's.


Oh the S II's are definitely an ultimate team. My point was the S II's could do the impossible.... and do it alone if necessary.

The S III's (for the most part) were genetically inferior, but could also do the impossible...but it was because they had to work together as a team to get it done.

Though, I think we can all agree that Noble 6 is one bad ass mofo and would have definitely been an S II. After all, 6 and the MC are the only two Spartans with the "Hyper-Lethal" classification

  • 09.25.2010 6:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: YEM

Posted by: Danny A G


I always got the impression that the S II's where the ultimate team.

There was a chapter in TFOR where Halsey is observing a training exercise, where the SII's are playing capture the flag. They pretty much acted as one mind.

So I reckon any team of spartan II's could take down any team of S III's.


Oh the S II's are definitely an ultimate team. My point was the S II's could do the impossible.... and do it alone if necessary.

The S III's (for the most part) were genetically inferior, but could also do the impossible...but it was because they had to work together as a team to get it done.

Though, I think we can all agree that Noble 6 is one bad ass mofo and would have definitely been an S II. After all, 6 and the MC are the only two Spartans with the "Hyper-Lethal" classification


Which is BS because Fred/Linda/Kelly are just as good, if not better than John.

  • 09.25.2010 6:45 PM PDT

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The oldest child may learn from the youngest."

Spartan IIs are, in one word, badass.

In a summarized explanation, SPARTAN IIIs are meant to be expendable while SPARTAN IIs are meant to be the best soldiers ever created, or something along the lines of that.

  • 09.25.2010 7:14 PM PDT

What a hipster.

The strength of the spartan IIs is just to overpowering compared to spartan IIIs. I believe spartan IIIs would win.

[Edited on 09.25.2010 7:21 PM PDT]

  • 09.25.2010 7:18 PM PDT

OMG a Pwny!

Spartan II's worked better as a team, were more fluid, and had better training, Spartan III's were designed to be sent on a mission to die, Spartan II's came back.

  • 09.25.2010 7:48 PM PDT

Physically the two types of spartans are very similar, similar if not the same medical enhancements, similar training, genetically superior,etc. But they were both trained for entirely different tyes of situations; Spartan III's were trained to fight only as a group and with a single giant objective in mind, seeing as they were expendible. Spartan II's were simply trained to be the best at everthing, they could work alone as easily as in a group, and had armor that was "superior in every way" to the SPI armor. Given the armor alone the Spartan II's would win, minus the armor it might be a little more of a competition, but I still give the win to the Spartan II's due to their ablility to work alone and greater combat experience.

  • 09.25.2010 8:54 PM PDT


Posted by: grave_mind21

Posted by: mastercheifrckz
S-III's have almost no armor, it's made light so move easy in.

Proof:
Case: "Dante": One plasma bolt to the side killed him due to the weakness of armor.

Case: "Kelly": When she first arrived on Onyx she was attacked by S-III's she open handed stuck an S-III (I wanna say Olivia) and dented the armor. This strike was meant to be non-lethal.

Case: "Ghost of Onyx": Kurt even straight out says that stealth was their only defense.
Sub-case: When Camp Currahee was under attack, Kurt get's to his old S-II armor, saying he SHOULD take it because it is superior in every way.


However Kurt takes the SPII armour. Not the MJOLNIR.

But i have tos ay a Spartan II would make minced meat of a Spartan III. Not due to armour. just sheer speed, reactions, and most importantly. battle experience. Blue teams first mission was when they were ages 14... and considering that at the end of Halo 3 the Cheif is about 42, thats a considerably larger ammount of time as a battle hardened solider. The Spartans III's were like kamikaze Soliders, expendible. as long as they killed a few covvies when they went their job was done.

He took it so his team would feel more one with him, rather than him being the "different" S-II. Read the books, sheesh.

  • 09.25.2010 11:40 PM PDT


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Posted by: YEM

Posted by: Danny A G


I always got the impression that the S II's where the ultimate team.

There was a chapter in TFOR where Halsey is observing a training exercise, where the SII's are playing capture the flag. They pretty much acted as one mind.

So I reckon any team of spartan II's could take down any team of S III's.


Oh the S II's are definitely an ultimate team. My point was the S II's could do the impossible.... and do it alone if necessary.

The S III's (for the most part) were genetically inferior, but could also do the impossible...but it was because they had to work together as a team to get it done.

Though, I think we can all agree that Noble 6 is one bad ass mofo and would have definitely been an S II. After all, 6 and the MC are the only two Spartans with the "Hyper-Lethal" classification


Which is BS because Fred/Linda/Kelly are just as good, if not better than John.

Except Fred/Linda/Kelly don't have the credentials to back up the smack down John has been laying on the Covenant for 27 years.

  • 09.25.2010 11:42 PM PDT

SPARTAN 2

  • 09.25.2010 11:57 PM PDT

Hysterical i have read Ghosts OF Onyx. and i know kurt took the SPII armour so his Spartan III's would feel like more of a team.

  • 09.26.2010 5:32 PM PDT
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Comparing II's to III's is like comparing the F-22 to the F-35. The first is the superior specimen while the second is the budget version built from all the technological advances of the first.

Spartan II's should win hands down one on one.

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  • 09.30.2010 7:11 PM PDT

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when I said Spartan-II's it said there was 117 votes for the Spartan II's. -blam!-yea.jpg

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If you remove their MJOLNIR armor and their SPI armor i would think, they are just the same, the only thing that makes the Spartans-II better is their battle experience longer thant the Spartans-III.

But you can see that Noble Team (except Jorge) they are S-III wearing a modified MJOLNIR armor, and they are as strong as any S-II

That's what i think.

  • 10.01.2010 7:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dragonzzilla
Between Six and John, it'd be a draw. Both are hyper lethal and lone wolves.
Uhh, no. Kelly almost killed an SIII by punching it in the stomach.

  • 10.01.2010 8:13 AM PDT

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Is this a joke?

Spartan II....obviously.

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  • 10.01.2010 8:17 AM PDT

This whole thread is pointless. Like saying which would win, a cat or a tiger...

Spartan III's =
-80% of the time 100% casualty rate
-Weaker
-Suicide soldiers
-Trained by ONI (corporate, cheap etc etc)
-The "cheap" soldier

Spartan II's =
-Intensive Training
-Augmented more
-better armour
-Better effectiveness
-Physically stronger and bigger

And Noble six could NEVER beat john117 let alone any other spartan II

  • 10.01.2010 8:52 AM PDT

Not really, master chief has Cortona she helps him out a lot while Noble Six isnt really a lone wolf eather having the support of his team throught the campaign.

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Posted by: Nomyud
Comparing II's to III's is like comparing the F-22 to the F-35. The first is the superior specimen while the second is the budget version built from all the technological advances of the first.

Spartan II's should win hands down one on one.


Generally, maybe. I have no doubt Noble Six would kill Kelly and Chief on 1v1, though.

  • 10.01.2010 11:39 AM PDT
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-Trained by ONI (corporate, cheap etc etc)


And Noble six could NEVER beat john117 let alone any other spartan II


Umm, the S III's were trained by Kurt, a Spartan II and CPO Mendez, the guy who trained the S II's

And you are wrong about Noble 6, he is a badass. 6 and the Master Chief are the only 2 Spartans that have the Hyper Lethal classification.

Not all S III's were inferior. They were taken from much broader gene pool, yes, but many had the same genetic markers that the S II's had and many of them could have been an S II

Again, it's not the augmentations, training, armor(though Mjolnir is better) that make the S II's better than the S III's

What makes them better is genetics. ALL of the S II's were the creme of the crop, the best of the best.....genetically.
Most, but not all, of the S III's were genetically inferior

  • 10.01.2010 11:53 AM PDT