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Subject: Kilroy's Guide To Protecting Your Chapter
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This is a guide designed to let you know how to protect your chapter from conquerors. It's not that difficult. Your chapter should be fine if you follow these simple rules:

* NEVER give anyone else full-control.

* NEVER give anyone the power to alter group settings.

* NEVER give anyone the power to promote/demote.

* NEVER give anyone the power to alter security-roles.

* Keep an alternate account that you never really use with full-control.(Bnet ninjas do not condone having an alternate account)

* It is wise not to allow people to edit blaclistings. However, giving someone the ability to give out 7 day blacklistings is fine.

* Don't feel obligated to give someone moderator powers just because they are a good member.

* You don't need 50 moderators. You don't need more than about 3 for most groups.

* Have many ranks. That way, you can promote members without having to give them more powers.

* When you boot someone, they can simply rejoin. Unless you have Closed Membership and remember who they are, the can get back in quite easily. There is a simple solution. Leave the ban Expiration Date blank. That way, they'll be banned forever. Even if they leave and rejoin, they'll still be banned. So, when doing this, they'll leave of their own accord once they realize hope is lost for them. And until they leave, they keep your member count up. So, it's good all around.

These few simple rules will ensure the safety of your chapter.


[Edited on 11/25/2005]

  • 10.03.2005 3:04 PM PDT
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Common-sense strikes again.

  • 10.03.2005 3:05 PM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

Alternate accounts are against the rules, last I knew.

  • 10.03.2005 3:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: peithos
Common-sense strikes again.


You'd think so. However, most founders of chapters don't know these basics.

Also, I'm not sure if alternates are against the rules. And I don't see any way that that rule could be enforced. At least not without a lot of work on the part of Achronos.

  • 10.03.2005 3:14 PM PDT
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And remember, if you want to avoid having to pay attention to all those pieces of advice, don't make a group. It's that simple. Or you can make a group and delete it just for kicks.

  • 10.03.2005 3:27 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/atticus/Group/GroupHome.aspx

Alternate accoutns are not against the rules.

using an alternate acocunt to avoid a blacklisting IS.

  • 10.03.2005 3:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Captain K Mart
And remember, if you want to avoid having to pay attention to all those pieces of advice, don't make a group. It's that simple. Or you can make a group and delete it just for kicks.


I wish I had never made a group. It sucked. I deleted it the other day actually. Of course, I asked my members if I should or not first.

But anyways. What do you all think? Is there anything missing?

  • 10.03.2005 3:41 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

The first 4 things are pretty much the same.

They all say not to give full control, u just broke it down over and over.

DONT GIVE FULL CONTROL problem solved

  • 10.03.2005 3:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: EAGLES5
The first 4 things are pretty much the same.

They all say not to give full control, u just broke it down over and over.



Well, yeah. I felt the need to clarify that a bit.

  • 10.03.2005 4:03 PM PDT

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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

Alternate accounts are heavily frowned upon. If you get blacklisted, and have an alternate account, the system is not nice to you.

If you have an alternate account, all moderators and staff automatically assume you are up to no good. You don't want us thinking that about you.

  • 10.03.2005 4:05 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

Is there a place we can report people with alts?

Some guy made up about 40 of them and had them join our group.

They all had the same name with a different number at the end. Needless to say i banned them all.

  • 10.03.2005 4:08 PM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

I believe Achronos just stated that alternate accounts aren't against the rules, but are not really something good to do. Much like tipin liek dis so peeps cnt undurstand u lol. It isn't against the rules, but people won't like you.

  • 10.03.2005 4:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Pimp at Sea
I believe Achronos just stated that alternate accounts aren't against the rules, but are not really something good to do. Much like tipin liek dis so peeps cnt undurstand u lol. It isn't against the rules, but people won't like you.


I understand this. I don't have an alternate account. It is a good idea for chapter founders though.

  • 10.03.2005 4:16 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/atticus/Group/GroupHome.aspx

I changed my identity. So of course I have an alt account.

  • 10.03.2005 4:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nakki Kedem
I changed my identity. So of course I have an alt account.


No wonder I had no idea who you are! Who did you used to be?

  • 10.03.2005 5:00 PM PDT
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Alternate accounts are fine if you abandon your old one.

Other then that, these rules have been reviewed over and over.

  • 10.03.2005 5:54 PM PDT

lol, now you tell us this?! j/k, this should be common sense, but isnt. most people don't even think about most of this stuff until wayyyy after its too late. like when there are 500 people running the group and 499 members. of course, i've seen that happen quite too often, and it leads to something like that game where one person is supposed to eliminate everyone else without being noticed...this is how that would happen.

anyways, since i've only made 2 groups, both being moderately successful, i completely agree with all the statements kilroy has given except for the alternate account. if you play your hand right, you won't need it. there is only so much safety procautions necessary, and that isn't one of them.

  • 10.03.2005 5:55 PM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

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Posted by: Pimp at Sea
I believe Achronos just stated that alternate accounts aren't against the rules, but are not really something good to do. Much like tipin liek dis so peeps cnt undurstand u lol. It isn't against the rules, but people won't like you.


I understand this. I don't have an alternate account. It is a good idea for chapter founders though.


My refrence was in response to EAGLES5, not you. Sorry for the miscommunication.

  • 10.03.2005 6:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Pimp at Sea
Posted by: Kilroy
Posted by: Pimp at Sea
I believe Achronos just stated that alternate accounts aren't against the rules, but are not really something good to do. Much like tipin liek dis so peeps cnt undurstand u lol. It isn't against the rules, but people won't like you.


I understand this. I don't have an alternate account. It is a good idea for chapter founders though.


My refrence was in response to EAGLES5, not you. Sorry for the miscommunication.


Oh its no problem. I wasn't sure who you were aimed at. But, it sounded like Achronos thought I had an alt. I was just stating that for clarification.

  • 10.03.2005 6:29 PM PDT
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* NEVER give anyone the power to alter group settings.

Once again, I'm confused on how a group can get "destroyed" because of this ability.

  • 10.03.2005 6:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: BlackEye319
* NEVER give anyone the power to alter group settings.

Once again, I'm confused on how a group can get "destroyed" because of this ability.


It can't. However, it can cause a lot of aggravation. People can change your theme, and mess with your home page. Also, they can switch it to "open" membership. That way, any of their spamming and/or conquering friends can traipse on in as they please.

  • 10.03.2005 6:38 PM PDT
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shhhhhhh

Posted by: Achronos
Alternate accounts are heavily frowned upon. If you get blacklisted, and have an alternate account, the system is not nice to you.

If you have an alternate account, all moderators and staff automatically assume you are up to no good. You don't want us thinking that about you.



For some reason reading that almost made me blackout, really. Voodoo maybe?

  • 10.03.2005 7:10 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/atticus/Group/GroupHome.aspx

Posted by: Kilroy
Posted by: Nakki Kedem
I changed my identity. So of course I have an alt account.


No wonder I had no idea who you are! Who did you used to be?


You will never know...

Those select few that do I have asked not to tell. I just want to start over.

  • 10.03.2005 8:03 PM PDT
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I'd only give someone mod powers in a group if:

* I knew them for a long while.
* I know that they aren't idiots.
* They spell properly.

You just can't trust people who takl liek dis mb LOLOL ROFL
-TGP-

  • 10.03.2005 8:46 PM PDT

Save a cow, Eat a baby!
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Gimpy, don't be an idiot. Comparing the wiimote to the power glove is like comparing sex to dieing.

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You just can't trust people who takl liek dis mb LOLOL ROFL
-TGP-


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